Big East OOC 2.0

[shizzle787]

78-35 (19-26).

Statement win for Marquette over Notre Dame.

 

[Chin Diesel]

78-35 (19-26).

Statement win for Marquette over Notre Dame.

BE 2-1 vs ACC over the weekend.

 

[pj]

BE 2-1 vs ACC over the weekend.

But one of the wins was against BC, does that really count?

 

[shizzle787]

But one of the wins was against BC, does that really count?

For now.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

But one of the wins was against BC, does that really count?

Better than a loss to BC.

 

[Chin Diesel]

But one of the wins was against BC, does that really count?

OTOH, the only ACC win was against Georgetwon, so does that really count?

 

[alexd]

78-35 (19-26).

Statement win for Marquette over Notre Dame.

Wow.... Ighodaro with 16 pts/18 reb

 

[Tyler2Rings]

KenPom: The ACC is closer to the Mountain West than it is to the Big East!

Lol, math not a strong suit here. Love the energy tho

 

[Chin Diesel]

One more chance for a BE scalp tonight with Seton Hall playing buttgers.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

KenPom: The ACC is closer to the Mountain West than it is to the Big East!

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MoV -- I believe this was true in the first year of the NET only. It was adjusted the following year to be capped at ten.

KenPom is not that useful until end of December at the earliest because his starting point data still has a huge influence on the standings through December.

The Jerry Palm article spells out the problems with NET. Unless there has been a change in the last year, those are still issues.

 

[REB1094]

But one of the wins was against BC, does that really count?

For now.

Not to be a killjoy but this Marquette win is Q3

 

[huskyjawz]

One more chance for a BE scalp tonight with Seton Hall playing buttgers.

Hall up 7 5 to go in first.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Not to be a killjoy but this Marquette win is Q3

Marquette beating Notre Dame at Notre Dame is only a Q3 win?

 

[huskyjawz]

Hall up 7 5 to go in first.

spoke too soon 7 0 run by rutgers.

 

[navery12]

Marquette beating Notre Dame at Notre Dame is only a Q3 win?

Just barely for now. Notre Dame is 138 in NET and top 135 is Q2. That won’t last though playing in the ACC

 

[REB1094]

spoke too soon 7 0 run by rutgers.

I think 13-2 to end the half. Not sure if Seton Hall's offense is really bad or if Rutgers' defense is really good

 

[caw]

And as a counter, I submit 2016.

2011 got a 3-seed. That was actually a very good seed.

2014 got underseeded, but that team was playing great. Still, they had a tough first round game they nearly lost, and the Regionals were in MSG. Let's not. make the exception (and I'd suggest only 2014 is the exception) the rule.

Agreement on 2014 being under-seeded, but probably not by much, they weren't a bubble team but probably could have been a 5 or 6 seed at best. Only had one bad loss to Houston, the rest came to quality teams.

Basically UL had UConn's number that year and gave UConn three of their eight losses. Just a horrid matchup for UConn. UL was a very good team that made it to the sweet 16 before they met their nemesis in UK.

SMU wasn't much better contributing to two 9 point losses and SMU wasn't horrid as they were one of the first four out, making the NIT championship.

The other three losses were not great but they were close games UConn dropped by 2 to Stanford, 4 at Houston, and 5 to a ranked Cincy.

Stanford also made the sweet sixteen that year. Cincy made the tournament and was upset in the first round but was a 2 seed.

I think what UL did to UConn that year weighs heavily in people's mind, but they forget it was like rock-paper-scissors for UL, UConn, UK and UF.

UL 3-0 UConn
UConn 2-0 UF
UF 3-0 UK
UK 2-0 UL

The only thing throwing that off was UConn 1-0 UK.

 

[Blue Idiaco]

Seton Hall is horribly coached. This game is borderline unwatchable

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Seton Hall is horribly coached. This game is borderline unwatchable

The announcers talking about all the great defense being played seems…. generous. Great defense is not the only way to have a low scoring game.

 

[REB1094]

SETON HALL LOOKS REALLY BADDDDDDDDDD

 

[Hi-Low]

The announcers talking about all the great defense being played seems…. generous. Great defense is not the only way to have a low scoring game.

First team to 48 wins...yuck. That said go Hall.

 

[Chin Diesel]

55 points should be more than enough to get the win. Heck 50 might be the winning number.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

First team to 48 wins...yuck. That said go Hall.

Would be a good win against what is somehow the Kenpom #30 team.

 

[Hi-Low]

55 points should be more than enough to get the win. Heck 50 might be the winning number.

I'm sticking with 48 as winning number.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Truly a game where there is a foul everytime anyone touches the ball.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Truly a game where there is a foul everytime anyone touches the ball.

The worst game I’ve watched all year for about 100 reasons.

 

[tzznandrew]

Agreement on 2014 being under-seeded, but probably not by much, they weren't a bubble team but probably could have been a 5 or 6 seed at best. Only had one bad loss to Houston, the rest came to quality teams.

Yeah, I think 5 is probably what they should have been seeded. It's only two seedlines up, but a big jump in expected performance. Didn't matter regardless.

 

[shizzle787]

Yeah, I think 5 is probably what they should have been seeded. It's only two seedlines up, but a big jump in expected performance. Didn't matter regardless.

We should have been 17 on the seed list IIRC. Either way, a 7 seed worked better for us. The 5 seed is the kiss of death.

 

[REB1094]

this is a disaster

 

[tzznandrew]

We should have been 17 on the seed list IIRC. Either way, a 7 seed worked better for us. The 5 seed is the kiss of death.

I mean, we lost as one, but they are expected to go farther more on average. Twice as likely to make the S16, twice as likely to make the Final Four.