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RuffRuff said:
Not bad - Joplin generating lots of offense for Marquette, which is not the position you want to be in.

I repeat, Ben Gold might as well be a mannequin out there. If I’m Shaka I’m not rolling into next season with that guy my 5.
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I don’t think Gold gets the ball enough. He is a decent player.
 
McDermott is giving a masterclass in coaching this season. I hardly ever say this about a UConn basketball game but I'm not looking forward to the Tuesday night game in Omaha.

Ashworth is nasty this season.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I don’t think Gold gets the ball enough. He is a decent player.
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We disagree there. Last thing I want at the college level is a stretch 5.

He has 2 points in the last 4 games and 2 rebounds in the last 3 games. If that’s what you call a quality 5, we have different definitions of quality.

Marquette is fading fast. They are offensively challenged.
 
superjohn said:
McDermott is giving a masterclass in coaching this season. I hardly ever say this about a UConn basketball game but I'm not looking forward to the Tuesday night game in Omaha.

Ashworth is nasty this season.
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He and Kalk are developing a really nice 1-2 punch. Neal filling the spot of creator, McAndrew a big 3pt guy. If then can get anything out of Green or Zugic in the 5th spot they are dangerous.

Mason Miller has been perhaps the most disappointing player in the BE.
 
RuffRuff said:
We disagree there. Last thing I want at the college level is a stretch 5.

He has 2 points in the last 4 games and 2 rebounds in the last 3 games. If that’s what you call a quality 5, we have different definitions of quality.

Marquette is fading fast. They are offensively challenged.
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Mitchell and Joplin should consider not launching some of their prayers and try passing to Gold every now and then.
 
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Marquette battling back. The one thing about a team like Creighton is that unless they’re reigning 3s, they’re not a “kill shot” team, and don’t really run away with games. They’re sound but lack explosive plays, especially defensively. They’ll never beat themselves but they’ll also never impose any kind of dominance.
 
RuffRuff said:
Marquette battling back. The one thing about a team like Creighton is that unless they’re reigning 3s, they’re not a “kill shot” team, and don’t really run away with games. They’re sound but lack explosive plays, especially defensively. They’ll never beat themselves but they’ll also never impose any kind of dominance.
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Creighton is probably the slightly better team, but Marquette plays so hard. I don't know that I would be critical of Creighton so much as respect two teams both playing well and two coaches making smart adjustments.
 
9 straight Big East wins for Creighton. I'm amazed at what they're doing this season. It looked bleak earlier in the season with their season ending injuries and no depth.

McDermott is an outstanding coach.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Creighton is probably the slightly better team, but Marquette plays so hard. I don't know that I would be critical of Creighton so much as respect two teams both playing well and two coaches making smart adjustments.
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Sure - not as much about being critical as it is about assessing a teams upside in the tournament. Clearly two quality teams, with two great coaches.

Marquette drops three in a row, but have some respite coming up with two home games against the Hall and DePaul, much needed for them.
 
storrsroars said:
If nine rando relatively in-shape BYers show up on a court for a pickup game with Ashworth in a disguise, Ashworth probably gets picked 5th or 6th at best. There is nothing about the guy that says, "I'm going to light you up." Looks like a tax preparer.
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He's tiny, he looks like a horse jockey out there and then you see him flying around past everyone and constantly banging threes. Dude is such a good player and college basketball has never seen a ft shooter like him.
 
Butler was up 1 with 2 fouls to give when PC got the ball with around 7 seconds left. I am fine giving the first foul, but I would rather use it to play aggressive defense then just give it away to run a second off the clock. Thoughts?
 
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bendm said:
Will be Nice to have a 4th ranked BE team next week at least. Let’s beat a ranked Creighton on the road for the first time under Hurley. The first of 8 straight wins to end the season.
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I don’t expect UConn to be ranked on Monday.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I don’t expect UConn to be ranked on Monday.
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It'll be tight as Clemson will definitely be ranked, maybe Creighton too. But Illinois and St. Mary's went 1-1 last week, Maryland lost to tOSU, and who knows how much KU's beatdown at Kansas St. will hurt them. No idea if Louisville beating two scrubs matters.

I think we're still in at 23 or 24.
 
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storrsroars said:
It'll be tight as Clemson will definitely be ranked, maybe Creighton too. But Illinois and St. Mary's went 1-1 last week, Maryland lost to tOSU, and who knows how much KU's beatdown at Kansas St. will hurt them. No idea if Louisville beating two scrubs matters.

I think we're still in at 23 or 24.
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Clemson may be ranked, although the loss to Georgia Tech is a bit of a buzzkill. 5 to 7 loss teams are in the very fat part of the curve right now. It is hard to predict who gets the last 10 spots of the Top 25.
 
We’ll be ranked. Loss to Creighton would knock us out.

Fairly incredible that STJ has 6 of the 10 most efficient defensive players in the BE.

 
nelsonmuntz said:
I don’t expect UConn to be ranked on Monday.
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we’re gonna drop 7+ spots for losing to #12? Meanwhile Duke will only drop 2-4 spots for losing to an unranked team.
 
bendm said:
we’re gonna drop 7+ spots for losing to #12? Meanwhile Duke will only drop 2-4 spots for losing to an unranked team.
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We have 7 losses. Duke has what? 2?
 
AntG168 said:
We have 7 losses. Duke has what? 2?
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It’s still 1 game we’re talking about. You can take Duke out of the discussion. Dropping 7+ spots for losing by 4 or whatever to a top 12 team is harsh. We didn’t lose to seton hall
 
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bendm said:
It’s still 1 game we’re talking about. You can take Duke out of the discussion. Dropping 7+ spots for losing by 4 or whatever to a top 12 team is harsh. We didn’t lose to seton hall
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I agree. Duke is just a bad comparison right now
 
bendm said:
It’s still 1 game we’re talking about. You can take Duke out of the discussion. Dropping 7+ spots for losing by 4 or whatever to a top 12 team is harsh. We didn’t lose to seton hall
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Duke does not matter to us. There is ONE seven loss team in this week's ranking, Illinois, and they are definitely dropping out after losing to Rutgers. With Kentucky and Kansas losing, UConn has some more company, and Kansas' loss was pretty bad. It would help if Maryland lost today to Rutger on the back of their loss to Ohio State.

Illinois is the only Top 25 team behind UConn that lost a game this week. Arizona had 2 good wins this week, so they are jumping UConn. Any Big 10/Big 12/SEC/Big East team with 6 or fewer losses is going to be ahead of UConn. That means Creighton and UCLA are definitely jumping UConn. Louisville beat two bad teams and Clemson lost at home to Georgia Tech, so they are not locks to jump UConn, but both have a shot.

It will be close, but my gut feel is that UConn is one of the top "also receiving votes" teams.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Duke does not matter to us. There is ONE seven loss team in this week's ranking, Illinois, and they are definitely dropping out after losing to Rutgers. With Kentucky and Kansas losing, UConn has some more company, and Kansas' loss was pretty bad. It would help if Maryland lost today to Rutger on the back of their loss to Ohio State.

Illinois is the only Top 25 team behind UConn that lost a game this week. Arizona had 2 good wins this week, so they are jumping UConn. Any Big 10/Big 12/SEC/Big East team with 6 or fewer losses is going to be ahead of UConn. That means Creighton and UCLA are definitely jumping UConn. Louisville beat two bad teams and Clemson lost at home to Georgia Tech, so they are not locks to jump UConn, but both have a shot.

It will be close, but my gut feel is that UConn is one of the top "also receiving votes" teams.
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This is a ton of thought being put into an AP ranking. Rarely does 1 loss to a top 12 team drop you more than 6 spots. We’ve already seen the voters pay respect to us previously as well. Bigger fish to fry. Honestly for this team anything that gives them a kick in the @ss will help, I’m for dropping out and seeing if it lights some kind of fire over clinging to a fairly insignificant subjective ranking.
 
RuffRuff said:
This is a ton of thought being put into an AP ranking. Rarely does 1 loss to a top 12 team drop you more than 6 spots. We’ve already seen the voters pay respect to us previously as well. Bigger fish to fry. Honestly for this team anything that gives them a kick in the @ss will help, I’m for dropping out and seeing if it lights some kind of fire over clinging to a fairly insignificant subjective ranking.
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It is not that much work to count the teams in the major conferences (less the ACC) that have fewer losses. Historically, at this point in the season, the writers are basically going off W/L records with some adjustments for teams that played particularly challenging or particularly easy schedules.

It would help UConn on several levels if Xavier won out. It would be nice to have another Top 40 win for UConn.
 
AP voters are very short sighted. I doubt someone who ranked UConn #19 last week is going to re-evaluate the entire season and retroactively apply what happened in weeks 1-13 to their rating in week 15. They’ll see road W vs #11 and home L to #12

#20 Arizona will jump us
#21 Wisconsin will probably jump us
#22 Mississippi St and #23 Illinois went 1-1, where both their Ws and Ls were worse than ours. They’re not jumping us
#24 Michigan will probably jump us
#25 Ole Miss will jump but they’re pretty far behind us. They beat Kentucky who is worse than Marquette and St John’s and barely beat LSU. It’ll be close

Clemson is coming in, but they lost at home to Georgia Tech this week. Creighton will get in too

I’d guess #21-23

EDIT: I'm dumb and thought Marquette was this week. 0-1 instead of 1-1 changes everything so I have no idea where we're ending up :)
 
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