Big East Games Thread - Feb 25

[superjohn]

8 straight for Creighton. Incredible stuff from Kalk and Ashworth, they've really been incredible all season. 35 and 12 for Kalk, 23/6/6 for Ashworth

Ashworth is 81-83 at the ft line this season.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

PC personnel looks every bit of a good mid major.

Let me put it this way. If UConn absolutely had to win 3 games, but got to pick its opponents from among the Big East teams, which three teams would you pick? Seton Hall, DePaul and Providence are my picks, and DePaul is the team I am least sure about.

 

[businesslawyer]

It doesn't, but people on this site are dumb

Seriously? You think it’s dumb to be trying to win a Big East championship as opposed to one of ever so many computer metrics looking a tad worse?

 

[RuffRuff]

It doesn't, but people on this site are dumb

Seriously? You think it’s dumb to be trying to win a Big East championship as opposed to one of ever so many computer metrics looking a tad worse?

Don’t mind him, he’s on the spectrum.

 

[navery12]

Seriously? You think it’s dumb to be trying to win a Big East championship as opposed to one of ever so many computer metrics looking a tad worse?

Yes. If we win out that would include a win over Creighton and we'd catch them in the Big East standings. Maximizing the number of Big East teams in the NCAA tournament and thus more money is far more valuable

 

[aceboon]

I keep expecting to see Zugic do something special. Still waiting on that.

When he committed cbb media reacted like Creighton brought in a ringer. Late clearance but you would expect more at this point with all of the hype.

 

[navery12]

Don’t mind him, he’s on the spectrum.

The fact you even think this is an acceptable comment to make says all I need to know about you

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Seriously? You think it’s dumb to be trying to win a Big East championship as opposed to one of ever so many computer metrics looking a tad worse?

Yes. Yes I do.

And a 22 or 23 win Creighton team as an opponent is a lot better on selection Sunday than a Creighton team with one win less that lost to a tomato can like Providence.

 

[auror]

Ideally both Creighton and Providence do well in their remaining games. Providence is near the 75 cliff for road Q1. Crieghton is near the top 30 Q1 cliff for home games.

The conference having over 25% of the teams in the 80s in NET (Providence, Georgetown, Butler) is not ideal. That's the annoying spot where it's kinda hard to win there on the road, but you only get a Q2 win for it.

 

[shizzle787]

The Big East looks like it is going to get 4 in. Xavier is a toss up but their remaining schedule is soft as butter. If they are able to win their next two, it is very possible they win out.

 

[RuffRuff]

The Big East looks like it is going to get 4 in. Xavier is a toss up but their remaining schedule is soft as butter. If they are able to win their next two, it is very possible they win out.

BE has 4 basically locked in 4. Xavier 50/50. They have 3 games that will determine whether they get in. @Nova and PC, home Creighton. I’d have to think they need to win 2 of those to lock it in, along with the rest of the schedule. They’d finish 21-10 and 13-7. Decent chance they can lose one more and still have a chance.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

BE has 4 basically locked in 4. Xavier 50/50. They have 3 games that will determine whether they get in. @Nova and PC, home Creighton. I’d have to think they need to win 2 of those to lock it in, along with the rest of the schedule. They’d finish 21-10 and 13-7. Decent chance they can lose one more and still have a chance.

I think Xavier has to pound some teams to get in. They can't keep winning by single digits and get a bid. They need a metrics boost. They didn't budge in KenPom or NET with a 5 point home win over Georgetown. They need 15 and 20 point wins.

 

[jibsey]

Let’s not jump the gun - they beat Marquette at home. Marquette is overrated, and slumping. They barely got by PC at home, was down big to Gtown at home. They barely won at PC. I still don’t see what I’d call a signature win, which to me is a top 4 BE team on road. A win Friday could change that narrative.

They lost at Creighton. Shot 36%.

I want to see them beat us, or win at Marquette, or beat Creighton to feel they are good enough to overcome the awful shooting. They dropped to 340 in the country in 3pt% after last night.

Friday is huge, for both teams. I might even say it’s the biggest BE game in last 3 years given the variables on both sides. It’s Hurley/Pitino, B2B against the new hard charging Jonnie’s and fully resuscitated fanbase. A win by either team amps up the fan-base x100. It legitimizes STJ and it makes the Husky faithful really start believing another run is possible.

If we win and close the gap, it sets up that MSG game up to be a fireball. It would be 7 straight games we beat Pitino (Iona included) and him looking for blood.

This one is going to be close to a pickem too.

It’s huge for them. Last 2 years we’ve had 12 big games when it counted. This is in league early Feb.
We don’t have our team at full strength yet with Hass and McNeeley the way they are.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Marquette vs. Creighton is a pretty good game.

 

[RuffRuff]

Marquette vs. Creighton is a pretty good game.

Not bad - Joplin generating lots of offense for Marquette, which is not the position you want to be in.

I repeat, Ben Gold might as well be a mannequin out there. If I’m Shaka I’m not rolling into next season with that guy my 5.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Not bad - Joplin generating lots of offense for Marquette, which is not the position you want to be in.

I repeat, Ben Gold might as well be a mannequin out there. If I’m Shaka I’m not rolling into next season with that guy my 5.

I don’t think Gold gets the ball enough. He is a decent player.

 

[superjohn]

McDermott is giving a masterclass in coaching this season. I hardly ever say this about a UConn basketball game but I'm not looking forward to the Tuesday night game in Omaha.

Ashworth is nasty this season.

 

[RuffRuff]

I don’t think Gold gets the ball enough. He is a decent player.

We disagree there. Last thing I want at the college level is a stretch 5.

He has 2 points in the last 4 games and 2 rebounds in the last 3 games. If that’s what you call a quality 5, we have different definitions of quality.

Marquette is fading fast. They are offensively challenged.

 

[RuffRuff]

McDermott is giving a masterclass in coaching this season. I hardly ever say this about a UConn basketball game but I'm not looking forward to the Tuesday night game in Omaha.

Ashworth is nasty this season.

He and Kalk are developing a really nice 1-2 punch. Neal filling the spot of creator, McAndrew a big 3pt guy. If then can get anything out of Green or Zugic in the 5th spot they are dangerous.

Mason Miller has been perhaps the most disappointing player in the BE.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

We disagree there. Last thing I want at the college level is a stretch 5.

He has 2 points in the last 4 games and 2 rebounds in the last 3 games. If that’s what you call a quality 5, we have different definitions of quality.

Marquette is fading fast. They are offensively challenged.

Mitchell and Joplin should consider not launching some of their prayers and try passing to Gold every now and then.

 

[storrsroars]

Ashworth is nasty this season.

If nine rando relatively in-shape BYers show up on a court for a pickup game with Ashworth in a disguise, Ashworth probably gets picked 5th or 6th at best. There is nothing about the guy that says, "I'm going to light you up." Looks like a tax preparer.

 

[RuffRuff]

Marquette battling back. The one thing about a team like Creighton is that unless they’re reigning 3s, they’re not a “kill shot” team, and don’t really run away with games. They’re sound but lack explosive plays, especially defensively. They’ll never beat themselves but they’ll also never impose any kind of dominance.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Marquette battling back. The one thing about a team like Creighton is that unless they’re reigning 3s, they’re not a “kill shot” team, and don’t really run away with games. They’re sound but lack explosive plays, especially defensively. They’ll never beat themselves but they’ll also never impose any kind of dominance.

Creighton is probably the slightly better team, but Marquette plays so hard. I don't know that I would be critical of Creighton so much as respect two teams both playing well and two coaches making smart adjustments.

 

[superjohn]

9 straight Big East wins for Creighton. I'm amazed at what they're doing this season. It looked bleak earlier in the season with their season ending injuries and no depth.

McDermott is an outstanding coach.

 

[RuffRuff]

Creighton is probably the slightly better team, but Marquette plays so hard. I don't know that I would be critical of Creighton so much as respect two teams both playing well and two coaches making smart adjustments.

Sure - not as much about being critical as it is about assessing a teams upside in the tournament. Clearly two quality teams, with two great coaches.

Marquette drops three in a row, but have some respite coming up with two home games against the Hall and DePaul, much needed for them.