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Good question! Unfortunately Huskies may be stuck with nowhere to go. Crazy college athletics world right now.
10000% agree with Pitino
10000% agree with Pitino
I like the idea of a revival of the "old" BIG EAST. Any thoughts about a combinationI've followed this story for a week and keep shaking my head at the world of college athletics now.
Yes I am a SEC graduate and live smack in the middle of the area plus truly loved college football more than any sport until recently. I get the SEC is a media and corporate giant as is the B10 but at this point what is happening to D1 athletics is awful.
Two major sports networks have basically attempted to consolidate the biggest teams/markets into fewer networks and the money keeps getting larger, but it has to stop at some point. I already miss the SEC of pre 2010 with just 12 teams and frankly 16 is more than enough. No Clemson or FSU if you ask me and if one or both winds up moving to another conference, so be it.
I think UConn got shafted again. The school really should be in the ACC. Actually, for the good of sports, schools like Rutgers, WVU, UConn, BC, Syracuse, should reform the old BE and forget trying to get sports all across the country just for the sake of football broadcasting deals.
The B12 won last week but it now has a cross country conference with an almost silly mix of schools. Yes it has a media deal but for all the bravado of adding the four corner schools last week, I really don't think audiences will get amped up for ASU and UCF or Utah and Houston. What made college football so much fun is tradition, rivalries, and proximity to each other. Those have largely fallen by the wayside.
Lastly if I read one more article about this conference or that conference fussing about the academic quality of schools I will vomit. Consider this: West Virginia and UCF are in the B12 while Stanford and Cal didn't get invites.
You could in theory be the 5th best conference but wouldn't have the P in front. The P5 were the P5 because they were all very good and a clear notch above 6th and 7th. Right now it might be a P3, maybe P4 if you include a shaky ACC. The fifth best conference is no longer a "power" conference, be it a reformulated Pac + Mountain combo, the Big East or another conference. There will be a big gap between the best and the next tier behind the now fewer super conferences.Question; as it stands today is the BigEast now one of the P5 conferences?
The same as the way they are funded now. The conference or University negotiates their media rights, and any other income sources, and the university then decides where the money goes, right?If football breaks away and forms its own entity per se then what funds the sports that don't make money? You can't just say cut those sports with Title IX involved.
I agree with Pitino that food in airport restaurants tends to be subpar but these days you're lucky to get a bag of chips on a flight so you're often stuck with no choice.
Great post! So sad that in college athletics today, none of this is considered in decision making!I tend to agree with you. At some point simply adding teams that have no history with one another (like rivalries) will not be valued by media partners - diminishing returns. For example, who thinks a Rutgers-Washington football game is compelling except those teams' fans and alumni? Rivalry games have national interest, think Army-Navy, Civil War (OR-OSU), Red River Showdown, etc., as do prominent national matchups in football and basketball.
I read an article (can't remember where) that discussed that what the Big Ten is doing might actually lure Notre Dame which is the gold ring of universities to add. That's because ND has valued its independence so that it could schedule the likes of USC, Stanford, several traditional midwest rivals like Purdue, Michigan and Michigan St., and also Navy. But if Stanford gets an invitation to the Big Ten then essentially everything ND wants for football is right there. As noted by another BYer, ND hockey already plays in the Big Ten, and moving their other Olympic sports from the ACC would be a no-brainer.
Here are some "headlines" from my research today about how UConn compares to other schools if we were invited to the Big 12:
1. From Day 1 we'd have the most successful men's and women's basketball programs (thus Brett Yomark's interest) - men have one more than Kansas;
2. UConn would be tied for 3rd most varsity teams with Utah and BYU, and only behind Arizona State and TCU. TCU's 20 teams include equestrian, rifle and triathlon, while ASU's 24 teams includes triathlon;
3. Only four Big 12 universities have more than UConn's 23 national championships (ASU, Utah, Colorado and Oklahoma St.);
4. UConn has the most national championships since 2000: 17 (Baylor is next with 14);
5. UConn has the most national championships since 1990: 19 (Colorado is next with 17);
6. While we have regional sports teams like ice hockey, field hockey and women's lacrosse, they've accounted for just five NC's (all FH). For Colorado (19 ski titles/total 28 titles) and Utah 14 ski titles/total 25 titles they are dominant in a sport that is also very regional.
The facts seem to show that UConn is one of the hottest and relevant athletics programs of the past 23 and 33 years, football notwithstanding, and in particular we're doing that in the 2nd largest revenue sport. We'd make any conference BETTER!
This article is a few years old but the concept hasn't changed. Most college sports other than football and basketball operate at a deficit and the shortfall is made up from the money making sports (i.e., football).The same as the way they are funded now. The conference or University negotiates their media rights, and any other income sources, and the university then decides where the money goes, right?
Disagreements between the football schools & basketball schools are what led to the break up of the old Big East.I like the idea of a revival of the "old" BIG EAST. Any thoughts about a combination
of the BIG EAST and the ACC??
You make some great points. You're looking at this thing through the same prism I am. Things are changing by the minute. The dust should settle by the end of the month. Keeping my fingers crossed for UConn. Regardless of where they end up, I hope it's financially beneficial for them.I've followed this story for a week and keep shaking my head at the world of college athletics now.
Yes I am a SEC graduate and live smack in the middle of the area plus truly loved college football more than any sport until recently. I get the SEC is a media and corporate giant as is the B10 but at this point what is happening to D1 athletics is awful.
Two major sports networks have basically attempted to consolidate the biggest teams/markets into fewer networks and the money keeps getting larger, but it has to stop at some point. I already miss the SEC of pre 2010 with just 12 teams and frankly 16 is more than enough. No Clemson or FSU if you ask me and if one or both winds up moving to another conference, so be it.
I think UConn got shafted again. The school really should be in the ACC. Actually, for the good of sports, schools like Rutgers, WVU, UConn, BC, Syracuse, should reform the old BE and forget trying to get sports all across the country just for the sake of football broadcasting deals.
The B12 won last week but it now has a cross country conference with an almost silly mix of schools. Yes it has a media deal but for all the bravado of adding the four corner schools last week, I really don't think audiences will get amped up for ASU and UCF or Utah and Houston. What made college football so much fun is tradition, rivalries, and proximity to each other. Those have largely fallen by the wayside.
Lastly if I read one more article about this conference or that conference fussing about the academic quality of schools I will vomit. Consider this: West Virginia and UCF are in the B12 while Stanford and Cal didn't get invites.
Last week when I first posted this depiction of the Titanic going down in the early morning hours of 15 April 1912 in the icy waters of the North Atlantic Ocean, four days into her maiden voyage from Southampton to New York City, and liking it to the PAC 12's "current state,"Late night updates from around the horn: PAC4 meeting with MWC leadership on Monday to look at merger options. Not saying it’s happening but it does seem the most likely. I’m hearing Stanford is not on board with a merger but is going to participate out of respect for the other 3.......that and they do have a vested interest in the outcome.
As I see it, Stanford has 3 options....
1. Go along with whatever the other 3 decide to do.
2. Breakaway and make their own deal with the BIG 12 or B1G or.......
3. Go independent.
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The PAC 4 has to do something fast. Time IS NOT on their side. The game is poker, and they're out of chips.