Big 12 season thread ('24-'25)

[ISUnorth]

Good game in Ames. ISU up by 1 at the half over KSU. Was thinking ISU by 10 or so but should have factored in that KSU plays good defense and playing versus teams with a pulse on defense, let alone good at it, isn't my Cyclones cup of tea. KSU is in a bit of foul trouble though.

 

[cancontent]

Sorry @azfan , but Houston beyond a shadow of a doubt is the worst team in the Big 12, ASU has no claim on that title. Getting blown out at home by UCF at the moment. Will finish 1-17, 2 games behind anyone else.

Ugh.....feel bad for someone like Summer Bostock who transferred from Maryland for a fresh start only to go through this tough stretch. Here's hoping for a better season next year.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Good game in Ames.

On the other hand, horrible game going on in Lawrence between Kansas and Oklahoma St. I had to quit watching. 22-19 Pokes at the half.

 

[ISUnorth]

On the other hand, horrible game going on in Lawrence between Kansas and Oklahoma St. I had to quit watching. 22-19 Pokes at the half.

Maybe we can generate some conversation that does not focus on the bottom half of the league.

Well, probably not but you never know!

 

[nwhoopfan]

Maybe we can generate some conversation that does not focus on the bottom half of the league.

Well, probably not but you never know!

I'm still not watching, but it's still a close game. Could Okie State do the unthinkable and get swept by Kansas? They are just about the weirdest team in the country. Quite the collection of bad losses they have to go along with some good wins.

 

[azfan]

Sorry @azfan , but Houston beyond a shadow of a doubt is the worst team in the Big 12, ASU has no claim on that title. Getting blown out at home by UCF at the moment. Will finish 1-17, 2 games behind anyone else.

Sigh..... You're correct. So ASU only rises or sinks to the level of mediocre awfulness. They can't excel at anything.

And the Cougars will get destroyed by the kitties in the first round. So even when the Sun Devils lose their first round game in a distressingly predictable manner you're still absolutely correct they're awfulness is only mediocre.

 

[azfan]

I totally agree with you, Adair is clearly in over her head. She should be relieved of her coaching duties. Will she get another year? I don't know.

While the circumstances aren't exactly the same, to me it is similar to Wynn at UW. Some fans wanted her to be given a 5th season after signing a decent recruiting class. She was let go after year 4. By that point it was painfully obvious she wasn't going to get it done at the Pac 12 level. Pretty big jump from the Big West, where she was really only moderately successful to be honest.

I do.....
She will.
ASU doesn't want to pay the buy out and let's face it who would even think about going into the cesspool that is now ASU women's basketball.

The local high school girls team in Tempe my alma mater the McClintock Chargers advanced to the regional finals. Perhaps they'll hire that coach once the nice coach from Delaware and 2021 CAA Coach of the Year fulfills her contract. But boy I boy next year is going to be a real doozy. Or consecutive years of 20 plus losses. I wonder if that's ever a been accomplished before in a power for environment?

 

[nwhoopfan]

The local high school girls team in Tempe my alma mater the McClintock Chargers advanced to the regional finals. Perhaps they'll hire that coach once the nice coach from Delaware and 2021 CAA Coach of the Year fulfills her contract.

For your sake I hope not. High school to college is just not a winning recipe. Ask BYU about that.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Looks like Iowa St. steadily pulled away in the 2nd half. Another huge game for Crooks. For a team given up for dead around the midpoint of the season, Cyclones ended up doing okay.

 

[nwhoopfan]

How often is Asi gonna go 0-9 from 3? Heard w/ an off game as well. Looks like Oklahoma St. will survive regardless. Magassa and Gray stepped up.

 

[JellyBean]

Hailey Van Lith just looks so much at peace at TCU. Just the right fit for her. Sedona Prince is always my favorite.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Hailey Van Lith just looks so much at peace at TCU. Just the right fit for her.

I think one of the best stories in wcbb this season. She's had plenty of doubters and naysayers throughout her career. All she's done is win wherever she's been. Now having a very good season and leading TCU to a program best year.

 

[nwhoopfan]

TCU doing everything they can to give this game away. Can't inbound the ball, missing FTs.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Frogs were 2-6 from the stripe down the stretch but still held on. 51-48 final. UGLY. But congrats to TCU for first ever Big 12 title.

 

[maple]

Baylor struggled soooo much in Q4 life cold shooting.

Hailey Van Lith fits in well at TCU. However, I have many issues with Prince and the way the school has handled it. Just can’t root for that team.

 

[ISUnorth]

Quite the bounceback season for TCU, from forfeiting games to winning the conference in the span of one season.

Still, not sure Baylor loses that game if Littlepage-Buggs was able o play.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

Sigh..... You're correct. So ASU only rises or sinks to the level of mediocre awfulness. They can't excel at anything.

And the Cougars will get destroyed by the kitties in the first round. So even when the Sun Devils lose their first round game in a distressingly predictable manner you're still absolutely correct they're awfulness is only mediocre.

So far as I know, Arizona is locked in the 8 seed and will get a first day bye. Colorado gets the Cougars.

 

[azfan]

So far as I know, Arizona is locked in the 8 seed and will get a first day bye. Colorado gets the Cougars.

Yep..... thanks to the Buffalo lost to Texas Tech. The kitties and Buffaloes were always destined to play in the second round however as they were going to finish 8,9 regardless.

That game will be a huge one for Coach Barnes and the kitties. A victory gets the kitties to 20 wins and the opportunity to get pounded in the quarterfinals.

I know the kitties are clinging to a hope to be one of the play in teams but frankly I'm not sure how they move up even with a win over the buffaloes to sneak into the quarters..

But this is what early March is all about Hope springs eternal.

And in more important Arizona news the Lopes finish at home Saturday in an effort to keep the NCAA women's winning streak alive. The best team playing women's basketball in Arizona appears to be the Lopes destined for a 30 win season and the opportunity to dance.

Here in Flagstaff the second best team in Arizona has an outside, remote shot at the co championship in the Big sky as they trail the Bobcats by one game. Realistically I see the Jacks losing to Montana State in the tournament final up in Boise.

Natasha Adair caps her third consecutive 20 loss season with a loss to Cincinnati.

And that leaves kitty fans on the edge of their smoked wondering.....

 

[azfan]

Baylor struggled soooo much in Q4 life cold shooting.

Hailey Van Lith fits in well at TCU. However, I have many issues with Prince and the way the school has handled it. Just can’t root for that team.

Partially due to TCU defense

 

[12au]

The POY race is interesting. If you look historically it comes from a top-3 team.

TCU - They have 3 candidates Prince, Van Lith, and Connor. I'd say it's Prince, her rim protection/deterrence has been so valuable. And her playmaking on offense as a big is really impressive. Not sure who's been better between Van Lith/Connor. Both have been very good.

Baylor - Our best player this year has been Littlepage-Buggs. We've played well in her absence too though. The team is balanced so it's hard to point to a single player. Maybe Buggs would have had some chance to win if we won last night.

Oklahoma State - Seems like the only candidate is Stailee Heard?


To me the obvious pick is Prince. Not sure that will happen due to off-court stuff.

 

[ISUnorth]

Any Baylor peeps here? What's the buzz on Littlepage-Buggs knee injury and recovery for March?

In other Big 12 injury stuff I am not buying the Ayoka Lee coming back to play yet this year. I think it's PR stuff to try and influence seeding for March Madness.

New polls have WVU at #16 and Baylor at #17. Think Baylor is getting screwed. WVU is a home court centric team and I think Baylor is just better, especially if they can get Littlepage-Buggs back. Mountain Momma's are 7-6 away from home, Bears are 10-4 away from Waco. WVU is 4-6 vs Quad1/2 and Baylor is 8-6. WVU's NET seems built on slaughtering Quad 3 and 4's.

 

[12au]

Any Baylor peeps here? What's the buzz on Littlepage-Buggs knee injury and recovery for March?

In other Big 12 injury stuff I am not buying the Ayoka Lee coming back to play yet this year. I think it's PR stuff to try and influence seeding for March Madness.

New polls have WVU at #16 and Baylor at #17. Think Baylor is getting screwed. WVU is a home court centric team and I think Baylor is just better, especially if they can get Littlepage-Buggs back. Mountain Momma's are 7-6 away from home, Bears are 10-4 away from Waco. WVU is 4-6 vs Quad1/2 and Baylor is 8-6. WVU's NET seems built on slaughtering Quad 3 and 4's.

I don't share injury info about my team

I agree Kansas State would be silly not to try some injury gamesmanship.

West Virginia's results are really interesting to look at actually. None of their wins is by fewer than 13 points. I'm not sure how much they empty their bench in blowouts. We always try to. Massey likes WV less than NET, likely b/c it values blowouts less.

 

[ISUnorth]

Big 12 awards.

2024-25 Phillips 66 All-Big 12 Women’s Basketball Awards Revealed

TCU’s Hailey Van Lith became the first Horned Frog to earn Big 12 Player of the Year recognition along with the league’s Newcomer of the Year honor as the 2024-25 Phillips 66 All-Big 12 Women’s Basketball Awards were unveiled.

big12sports.com

2025 Phillips 66 All-Big 12 WBB Yearly Award Winners
Player of the Year: Hailey Van Lith, TCU, G, Gr.
Freshman of the Year: Delaney Gibb, BYU, G*
Newcomer of the Year: Hailey Van Lith, TCU, G, Gr.
Defensive Player of the Year: JJ Quinerly, West Virginia, G, Sr.
Sixth Player of the Year: Yaya Felder, Baylor, G, Sr.
Scholar-Athlete of the Year: Gianna Kneepkens, Utah, G, Jr.
Coach of the Year: Mark Campbell, TCU

All-Big 12 First Team
Darianna Littlepage-Buggs, Baylor, G, Jr.
Audi Crooks, Iowa State, C, So.*
S’Mya Nichols, Kansas, G, So.
Serena Sundell, K-State, G, Sr.
Stailee Heard, Oklahoma State, G, So.
Madison Conner, TCU, G, Sr.
Sedona Prince, TCU, C, Gr.*
Hailey Van Lith, TCU, G, Gr. *
Gianna Kneepkens, Utah, G, Jr.
JJ Quinerly, West Virginia, G, Sr.*

All-Big 12 Second Team
Sarah Andrews, Baylor, G, Gr.
Aaronette Vonleh, Baylor, C, Sr.
Delaney Gibb, BYU, G, Fr.
Addy Brown, Iowa State, F, So.
Ayoka Lee, K-State, C, Gr.

All-Big 12 Third Team
Jillian Hayes, Cincinnati, F, 5th
Temira Poindexter, K-State, F, Sr.
Anna Gret Asi, Oklahoma State, G, Sr.
Jordan Harrison, West Virginia, G, Jr.
Mayè Tourè, Utah, F, Gr.

Honorable Mention: Arizona: Breya Cunningham; Arizona State: Jalyn Brown, Tyi Skinner; Baylor: Bella Fontleroy, Jada Walker; UCF: Kaitlin Peterson; Colorado: Frida Formann, Jade Masogayo; Iowa State: Emily Ryan; Kansas: Elle Evans; K-State: Jaelyn Glenn; Oklahoma State: Micah Gray; Texas Tech: Bailey Maupin, Jasmine Shavers; Utah: Kennady McQueen; West Virginia: Kyah Watson

All-Big 12 Freshman Team
Lauryn Swann, Arizona, G
Delaney Gibb, BYU, G*
Emely Rodriguez, UCF, G/F
Regan Williams, Kansas, F
Jadyn Wooten, Oklahoma State, G

All-Big 12 Defensive Team
Bella Fontleroy, Baylor, G/F, Jr.
Zyanna Walker, K-State, So.
Sedona Prince, TCU, C, Gr.*
JJ Quinerly, West Virginia, G, Sr.*
Kyah Watson, West Virginia, G, Sr.

Players are sorted in alphabetical order by school.
*Indicates unanimous selection.

 

[visitingcock]

A healthy Ayoka Lee would destroy Sedona Prince (and most others)

 

[WBBTakeover]

I suspect that a number of people will be relieved by the POY choice (a good choice, IMO).