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Big 12 season thread ('24-'25)

12au said:
The Houston the cats barely beat in OT via bogus block call? Houston is bad, but still is competitive in a lot of these games. Playing games back to back is tiring, even if one of the games is a blowout
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Ikr..... Buffalo or the kitties from the dirty t stand very little chance in the quarters for those reasons. Regardless of who tips off give the points.

They say defense travels so if the kitties beat the Buffaloes those Bear down gals can travel back to the dirty t. If Frida Foreman is back and the Buffalo squeaks by the kitties then they can squeak back to Boulder after their quarter loss.

In no world do the Cougars beat either the kitties or the Buffs. As they say everything's great in Kansas City
 
nwhoopfan said:
Houston and their 1-16 conference record would like a word with you.
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And yes the Sun Devils did go into Houston and beat the Cougs. And perhaps it's because I have so much toxic exposure to the Sun Devils I can really appreciate how they plumbed the depth of incompetence, ineptitude, and indifference.

As a previous poster pointed out the Cougs came very close to beating the kitties. And even though they have an extraordinarily short bench there's always effort by Houston and at times they seem to know what they're doing. They're just outmanned.

The Sun Devils are both out manned but more importantly they rarely seem to know what they're doing or care.

Currently they are within 40 points in Boulder as the fourth quarter begins. I'm watching the Buffaloes both on the court and on the bench huge smiles, laughter, and you can tell they're really having a great time.
 
azfan said:
And yes the Sun Devils did go into Houston and beat the Cougs. And perhaps it's because I have so much toxic exposure to the Sun Devils I can really appreciate how they plumbed the depth of incompetence, ineptitude, and indifference.

As a previous poster pointed out the Cougs came very close to beating the kitties. And even though they have an extraordinarily short bench there's always effort by Houston and at times they seem to know what they're doing. They're just outmanned.

The Sun Devils are both out manned but more importantly they rarely seem to know what they're doing or care.

Currently they are within 40 points in Boulder as the fourth quarter begins. I'm watching the Buffaloes both on the court and on the bench huge smiles, laughter, and you can tell they're really having a great time.
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I think Coach Amber Whiting is on the phone trying to call you, wondering how her bunch got outscored 14-2 in OT by this incompetent squad from Tempe.

I get your frustration, but they win just enough games to not be in the conversation for worst of all time. I'll never forget that Washington lost to them twice last season.

Whatever other shortcomings ASU has, they do possess 2 players in Brown and Skinner who can make the ball go thru the hoop. I suffered 3 years of the Wynn era at Washington w/ only 1 player who could do that, Melgoza.

Okay, here's something crazy--ASU is only being outscored 76-70 on average. A -6 is minuscule, I'm sure there are many teams being outscored by 15-20 on average.
 
What?! Colorado players are handing out donuts to the crowd at the conclusion of the game. Nice.

Shame Formann wasn't able to play on Senior Night. She did sub in at the end and then was immediately subbed out again.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Okay, here's something crazy--ASU is only being outscored 76-70 on average. A -6 is minuscule, I'm sure there are many teams being outscored by 15-20 on average.
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In a previous diatribe I posted that from 1999 to 2022 the Sun Devils allowed their opponents on average to score 70 points once. During most of the CTT era she held opponents under 60 per game.

In her 3 years in Tempe Adair teams have always allowed more than 70 points per game to their opponents. In this her third year the Sun Devils have been out scored on average in all three years.

Comparing where the program has fallen to now to the previous 20 years is extraordinarily painful and admittedly warps my perspective. I suspect my perspective is as warped as the process that brought the nice coach to Tempe and allows her to continue.

In Boulder tonight the full range of incompetence in both coaching, preparation, execution, and play was on display to the huge ESPN plus TV audience of which I was a part.

And no way is the ASU women's basketball program as currently lead and constructed a power 4 program. Each year the team has gotten worse. I'm not certain there's much soilace in saying hey there's a five six kid who can score the ball and there's a player named Ice who leads Big 12 in turnovers ... cuz hey she's seventh in the conference in scoring.

What's even more soul crushing is the knowledge that this will be the case next year as Adair is going to finish her contract due to the buyout. I do wonder how many NCAA women's basketball coaches have had four consecutive 20 loss seasons at the same school. That in itself is something......
 
I totally agree with you, Adair is clearly in over her head. She should be relieved of her coaching duties. Will she get another year? I don't know.

While the circumstances aren't exactly the same, to me it is similar to Wynn at UW. Some fans wanted her to be given a 5th season after signing a decent recruiting class. She was let go after year 4. By that point it was painfully obvious she wasn't going to get it done at the Pac 12 level. Pretty big jump from the Big West, where she was really only moderately successful to be honest.
 
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Anyone got thoughts on who will be player of the year in the Big 12?

It will not be the preseason pick of Ayoka Lee. Thing is nobody on the top teams has really had a crazy standout year that just stands head and shoulders over the others. Audi Crooks is leading the league in scoring and has some name recognition but not sure a player from a 12-6 or 11-7 bubble team will get POY. Littlepage-Buggs is averaging a double-double but people are more enamored with high scoring players and she is out now for crunch time. Prince has some good overall stats but completely disappears in some games and has a lot of off-court baggage that I bet eliminates her. Might be pig-tails Van Lith for TCU by default if TCU can beat Baylor on Sunday.

Player of the week has been all over the place. Freshman of the year is BYU's Delany Gibb and that should be unanimous, nobody else is even close.

Kneepkins got POW this last week, here are the others.

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Bizarro day in the Big 12. Texas Tech beat Colorado and BYU has taken Utah to OT...in SLC.

edit--Gibb going off w/ 32 and counting
 
Utah dodged a bullet, 76-73 final. Gibb w/ 36 points on 13-18 shooting, 5-7 behind the arc, also 10 rebounds and 5 assists. That has to be one of the best individual performances by a Fr. all season.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Utah dodged a bullet, 76-73 final. Gibb w/ 36 points on 13-18 shooting, 5-7 behind the arc, also 10 rebounds and 5 assists. That has to be one of the best individual performances by a Fr. all season.
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Gibb has been fantastic this year. Can't believe she's only a freshman.

Wilke nailed one from half-court to win btw...
 
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I shoulda turned the TV on! Wow BYU thought they were headed to 2 OT and then bang!
 
Sorry @azfan , but Houston beyond a shadow of a doubt is the worst team in the Big 12, ASU has no claim on that title. Getting blown out at home by UCF at the moment. Will finish 1-17, 2 games behind anyone else.
 
Good game in Ames. ISU up by 1 at the half over KSU. Was thinking ISU by 10 or so but should have factored in that KSU plays good defense and playing versus teams with a pulse on defense, let alone good at it, isn't my Cyclones cup of tea. KSU is in a bit of foul trouble though.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Sorry @azfan , but Houston beyond a shadow of a doubt is the worst team in the Big 12, ASU has no claim on that title. Getting blown out at home by UCF at the moment. Will finish 1-17, 2 games behind anyone else.
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Ugh.....feel bad for someone like Summer Bostock who transferred from Maryland for a fresh start only to go through this tough stretch. Here's hoping for a better season next year. :(
 
ISUnorth said:
Good game in Ames.
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On the other hand, horrible game going on in Lawrence between Kansas and Oklahoma St. I had to quit watching. 22-19 Pokes at the half.
 
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ISUnorth said:
Maybe we can generate some conversation that does not focus on the bottom half of the league. :confused:

Well, probably not but you never know!
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I'm still not watching, but it's still a close game. Could Okie State do the unthinkable and get swept by Kansas? They are just about the weirdest team in the country. Quite the collection of bad losses they have to go along with some good wins.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Sorry @azfan , but Houston beyond a shadow of a doubt is the worst team in the Big 12, ASU has no claim on that title. Getting blown out at home by UCF at the moment. Will finish 1-17, 2 games behind anyone else.
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Sigh..... You're correct. So ASU only rises or sinks to the level of mediocre awfulness. They can't excel at anything.

And the Cougars will get destroyed by the kitties in the first round. So even when the Sun Devils lose their first round game in a distressingly predictable manner you're still absolutely correct they're awfulness is only mediocre.
 
nwhoopfan said:
I totally agree with you, Adair is clearly in over her head. She should be relieved of her coaching duties. Will she get another year? I don't know.

While the circumstances aren't exactly the same, to me it is similar to Wynn at UW. Some fans wanted her to be given a 5th season after signing a decent recruiting class. She was let go after year 4. By that point it was painfully obvious she wasn't going to get it done at the Pac 12 level. Pretty big jump from the Big West, where she was really only moderately successful to be honest.
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I do.....
She will.
ASU doesn't want to pay the buy out and let's face it who would even think about going into the cesspool that is now ASU women's basketball.

The local high school girls team in Tempe my alma mater the McClintock Chargers advanced to the regional finals. Perhaps they'll hire that coach once the nice coach from Delaware and 2021 CAA Coach of the Year fulfills her contract. But boy I boy next year is going to be a real doozy. Or consecutive years of 20 plus losses. I wonder if that's ever a been accomplished before in a power for environment?
 
azfan said:
The local high school girls team in Tempe my alma mater the McClintock Chargers advanced to the regional finals. Perhaps they'll hire that coach once the nice coach from Delaware and 2021 CAA Coach of the Year fulfills her contract.
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For your sake I hope not. High school to college is just not a winning recipe. Ask BYU about that.
 
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How often is Asi gonna go 0-9 from 3? Heard w/ an off game as well. Looks like Oklahoma St. will survive regardless. Magassa and Gray stepped up.
 
JellyBean said:
Hailey Van Lith just looks so much at peace at TCU. Just the right fit for her.
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I think one of the best stories in wcbb this season. She's had plenty of doubters and naysayers throughout her career. All she's done is win wherever she's been. Now having a very good season and leading TCU to a program best year.
 
TCU doing everything they can to give this game away. Can't inbound the ball, missing FTs.
 
Frogs were 2-6 from the stripe down the stretch but still held on. 51-48 final. UGLY. But congrats to TCU for first ever Big 12 title.
 
Baylor struggled soooo much in Q4 life cold shooting.

Hailey Van Lith fits in well at TCU. However, I have many issues with Prince and the way the school has handled it. Just can’t root for that team.
 
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