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I should've bet you on this game @azfan . Oklahoma St. about to pull off the win. Ugly game, tons of fouls, both teams had a hard time getting any rhythm.

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Again, how did Oklahoma St. lose to Houston, Kansas and BYU? It's simply unfathomable.
 
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Jada Williams is back for Arizona tonight, so thankfully that recent injury wasn't serious.
 
Arizona jumped out to a huge lead early, BYU battled back in Q3, then it went back and forth a bit in Q4 but Arizona was mostly in control. 65-57 final.
 
Madison Conner has set the single season record for made 3's at TCU 2 years in a row now. I think she's leading the country in made 3's currently, went over the century mark tonight. TCU less than impressive, let Arizona St. hang around til a barrage from Conner late stretched the lead out. 82-66 final.
 
@azfan please tell me Arizona St. is not actually playing at Mullet Arena. That's sure what it sounds like the commentator keeps saying.

Okay, it's Mullett. Unfortunately sounds just like the infamous hair style.
 
nwhoopfan said:
@azfan please tell me Arizona St. is not actually playing at Mullet Arena. That's sure what it sounds like the commentator keeps saying.

Okay, it's Mullett. Unfortunately sounds just like the infamous hair style.
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The ASU hockey arena.... Appropriate for the way the Sun Devils "play" defense.
 
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www.nytimes.com

Women’s college basketball bubble watch: Will Arizona miss the tournament? Is Nebraska in?

A conference by conference look at which teams are fighting for NCAA Tournament spots.
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Spotlight on: Arizona​

The Wildcats are hanging on by a thread and likely could be off the bubble entirely by next week’s Bracket Watch.

Arizona is resilient and has some quality wins, but I anticipate Arizona missing out on an NCAA Tournament invitation.

Grand Canyon and Northern Arizona are both stellar mid-majors, but losing to both early in the season is pretty damning for a bubble team’s resume. That would be more salvageable if the Wildcats weren’t on the receiving end of so many double-digit losses to the top end of the Big 12. It’s difficult to balance out the NET and the eye test.

After losses to TCU and Oklahoma State last week, the Wildcats are out of statement game opportunities in Big 12 play. Barring an unexpected run to the Big 12 tournament final, Arizona is out.
 
There might still be a roadmap for Arizona to make NCAA tournament. Creme had them in Next 4 Out on Feb 18, before the BYU win.

Their next three: @ Houston, Texas Tech, @ Arizona State

They'll be favored in each. If they win out, they'll likely be the 8 seed. So then they play the winner of the 9 vs 16 (likely Colorado). Colorado may have some players back by then, but if Arizona wins that their record will be 20-12.

And then they'll play the 1 seed, which I doubt would hurt their standing if they lose (and could help if they win).

Surviving the bubble is also about avoid slipping up (There are always teams above you who lose some).
 
12au said:
There might still be a roadmap for Arizona to make NCAA tournament. Creme had them in Next 4 Out on Feb 18, before the BYU win.

Their next three: @ Houston, Texas Tech, @ Arizona State

They'll be favored in each. If they win out, they'll likely be the 8 seed. So then they play the winner of the 9 vs 16 (likely Colorado). Colorado may have some players back by then, but if Arizona wins that their record will be 20-12.

And then they'll play the 1 seed, which I doubt would hurt their standing if they lose (and could help if they win).

Surviving the bubble is also about avoid slipping up (There are always teams above you who lose some).
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Mark Schindler writes ( and agrees with you):

"After losses to TCU and Oklahoma State last week, the Wildcats are out of statement game opportunities in Big 12 play. Barring an unexpected run to the Big 12 tournament final, Arizona is out."
 
A clinic in Orlando. That is if the clinic is being led by the nice coach from Delaware and 2021 CAA coach of the year and rebuilder extraordinaire.

Well the jerseys say Texas Tech and UCF the play screams Arizona State University. This is really agony to watch.

So in the spirit of ASU basketball which is what we're seeing in Disneyworld the Red Raiders have more turnovers than made field goals. UCF has more fouls than made field goals.

Not that it matters but the score is 20 to 19 at the half with UCF slightly less horrible than Texas Tech.
 
I noticed Ayoka Lee only played 5 minutes today in her return from injury.

They also had 11k attendance today!
 
If TCU beats West Virginia tomorrow that eliminates West Virginia, Oklahoma State, and Utah from the title race.

One interesting scenario I found: A five-way tie for first. Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, TCU, and the winner of Wednesday's Utah-West Virginia matchup.

The tricky part is Houston beating TCU. They'll be 20-point dogs...

Sunday Feb 23
  • West Virginia beats TCU
  • Utah beats Cincinnati
Monday Feb 24
  • Kansas State beats Baylor
Wednesday Feb 26
  • Houston beats TCU
  • Oklahoma State beats Cincinnati
Saturday Mar 1
  • West Virginia beats Cincinnati
  • Utah beats BYU
Sunday Mar 2
  • Oklahoma State beats Kansas
  • Iowa State beats Kansas State
  • TCU beats Baylor
 
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12au said:
The tricky part is Houston beating TCU. They'll be 20-point dogs...

Sunday Feb 23
  • West Virginia beats TCU
  • Utah beats Cincinnati
Monday Feb 24
  • Kansas State beats Baylor
Wednesday Feb 26
  • Houston beats TCU
  • Oklahoma State beats Cincinnati
Saturday Mar 1
  • West Virginia beats Cincinnati
  • Utah beats BYU
Sunday Mar 2
  • Oklahoma State beats Kansas
  • Iowa State beats Kansas State
  • TCU beats Baylor
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"Tricky"? The chances of this happening are the same as the ASU Sun Devils winning the national championship.

TCU at Baylor will be the game
 
12au said:
I noticed Ayoka Lee only played 5 minutes today in her return from injury.

They also had 11k attendance today!
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Finally got a game sold out! This team certainly deserves that support. They did do senior day activities, even though there is still one home game on the schedule. I have to assume it’s just much easier to do that on a Saturday rather than a Monday.

It sounded like the plan for Lee was only 10 minutes or so, just to ease into it. I’m not sure what to read into her not playing in the second half. She was effective, but didn’t look super comfortable running. Hopefully just working back into it. This K-State team is plenty good enough to blow the doors off bad/mediocre teams without her. But I think we really need her from here on.
 
catsfan11 said:
Finally got a game sold out! This team certainly deserves that support. They did do senior day activities, even though there is still one home game on the schedule. I have to assume it’s just much easier to do that on a Saturday rather than a Monday.

It sounded like the plan for Lee was only 10 minutes or so, just to ease into it. I’m not sure what to read into her not playing in the second half. She was effective, but didn’t look super comfortable running. Hopefully just working back into it. This K-State team is plenty good enough to blow the doors off bad/mediocre teams without her. But I think we really need her from here on.
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So what's the buzz on Lee from the Wildcats fanbase? I see she had another "procedure" and I can't imagine she can actually be back for the NCAA's even if that was what was stated.
 
Big 12 title is coming down to final game between TCU and Baylor. Baylor will still be without Littlepage-Buggs and maybe Bella Fontleroy who injured a shoulder in the KSU game. Hoping Fontleroy is able to play. Good schedule making by the Big 12!

KSU at ISU on Sunday was supposed to be a big game since coaches pre-season picked them to be the title favorites. Now it's just a home game for ISU to see if they can actually get a Quad 1 win before selection day. Think Cyclone will win but it will be sort of a cheap Quad 1 against a Lee-less squad that's only 6-4 in their last ten games.
 
If West Virginia loses tonight, they're eliminated from top-4 seed contention. Utah can survive a loss with only an incredible stroke of luck:

Cincinnati beats Oklahoma State
AND
Kansas beats Oklahoma State
AND
Cincinnati beats West Virginia
AND
Utah beats BYU
 
Okay, who had West Virginia beating Utah by 30 on their bingo card? Okay, not quite 30 but close enough, 75-46. Utes haven't laid an egg like that in a long time.

edit--38 for Quinerly and Kneepkens held below double figures
 
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Natasha Adair following the unexpected win in their last outing is coaching her team up to their 20th loss of the year. As we all know this will be the third consecutive 20 loss season for the nice coach from Delaware and 2021 CAA coach of the year.

The Buffalo's minus Frida foramen have doubled up the Sun Devils at the end of the first quarter as the team from Tempe continues their resolute determination to not defend either the paint or the three line.

The Devils are being destroyed on the boards.
 
Oklahoma St. had a hard time shutting the door on Cincinnati but did get the W.

TCU clobbered Houston, no surprise there.
 
OSU locked up a top 4 seed in the conference tourney according to announcers.
 
Colorado got Wetta and Garzon back just in time. They'll be favored in Lubbock, by my guess. They hold the tiebreaker over Arizona. The 8-seed is actually critical because it gets a bye.
 
Masogayo is the schooling 6'7 Sun Devil Bascom.

As the half winds down the Buffalo announcers are speculating on what the rebuilding coach from Tempe might say to her troops. With 45 seconds left in the half a Buff goes down and the Devils come down five on four and of course turn the ball over.

Thinking about awful teams anyone watching this game would say that the Sun Devils very well could be not only the worst team in the Big 12 not only the worst team in the West not only the worst team in the USA not only the worst team in the world but perhaps dare I say it the worst team in the universe.

While statistics don't really capture the putrid nature of the performance by the nice coach from Delaware it's worth looking at the rebounding numbers as the Devils show a complete lack of interest in this critical aspect of basketball. At the half they're being out rebounded 27 to 13 they have zero offensive rebounds, of course as that's not within their wheelhouse, but they have given up nine offensive boards to the Buffaloes.

In scoring one point a minute in the first half the Sun Devils have more turnovers and fouls (9) than made shots (7). But this doesn't really capture the sheer ineptitude of this team. It's startling and reminds me of the very first game my 5-year-old daughter played on the soccer pitch with most of the girls running around in the wrong direction.
 
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12au said:
Colorado got Wetta and Garzon back just in time. They'll be favored in Lubbock, by my guess. They hold the tiebreaker over Arizona. The 8-seed is actually critical because it gets a bye.
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Not sure it matters as I think the kitties from the dirty t and the Buffaloes are going to finish eight and nine or nine and eight so they'll meet in the second round. Whoever finishes 9th will destroy Houston on their way to playing the other team.
 
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azfan said:
Thinking about awful teams anyone watching this game would say that the Sun Devils very well could be not only the worst team in the Big 12
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Houston and their 1-16 conference record would like a word with you.
 
azfan said:
Not sure it matters as I think the kitties from the dirty t and the Buffaloes are going to finish eight and nine or nine and eight so they'll meet in the second round. Whoever finishes 9th will destroy Houston on their way to playing the other team.
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The problem is the number of games. Whoever ends up the 9-seed, assuming they beat Houston, is in a really tough spot even if they beat the 8-seed. It'll be their third game in three days against the 1-seed
 
12au said:
The problem is the number of games. Whoever ends up the 9-seed, assuming they beat Houston, is in a really tough spot even if they beat the 8-seed. It'll be their third game in three days against the 1-seed
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Yep, but remember it's Houston. And whoever wins that eight - nine game is going to get beat up really bad in the quarters
 
And..... In Boulder the Sun Devils open up the second half giving up a 3 to the Buffalo's which is understandable giving their contempt for defending the three line. Then they come down and of course turn the ball over.

The agony.
 
Basketball is fun and life is good when you're playing the Sun Devils at home. The nice coach from Delaware calls time out to continue to build on the rebuild 48-20.

Following the Sun Devil time out they come down turn the ball over on a breakaway and the Buffaloes are now up by 30.

Natasha Adair 3 years in Tempe 3 20 loss seasons. I do believe she must have a day of barnes's agent as the 2.1 million by out insurers that she will finish next year.... How many coaches can say they 20 games for four consecutive seasons at the same school.
 
azfan said:
Yep, but remember it's Houston. And whoever wins that eight - nine game is going to get beat up really bad in the quarters
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The Houston the cats barely beat in OT via bogus block call? Houston is bad, but still is competitive in a lot of these games. Playing games back to back is tiring, even if one of the games is a blowout
 
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