Big 12 season thread ('24-'25)

[azfan]

You've got your Kansas schools mixed up.

Hard to keep them straight..... Maybe it's because my brother was born in Topeka. Who knows.... KSU is real good right? KU is just good enough to whoop the heck up ASU? Or is it the other way around. I don't think it matters cuz I don't think either Arizona school can beat either Kansas School

 

[nwhoopfan]

Hard to keep them straight..... Maybe it's because my brother was born in Topeka. Who knows.... KSU is real good right? KU is just good enough to whoop the heck up ASU? Or is it the other way around. I don't think it matters cuz I don't think either Arizona school can beat either Kansas School

Kansas St. is the better team. Probably the odds on favorite to win the Big 12. The rock, chalk thing is KU. You'd get some really dirty looks if you said something about that if you were in Manhattan, KS.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

Hard to keep them straight..... Maybe it's because my brother was born in Topeka. Who knows.... KSU is real good right? KU is just good enough to whoop the heck up ASU? Or is it the other way around. I don't think it matters cuz I don't think either Arizona school can beat either Kansas School

"This year" Or even "Recent History". Last victory vs. Kansas was in 2015, with 2 losses since.

K State is a good team. I'm not fond of Mittie, no particular reason. Rutgers played and beat his team at TCU in the NCAA's and Vivian explained to the fan club before the game that there was a "wrinkle" to his style of play that made preparing difficult, apparently in general. No idea if he still does whatever it was.

Kansas OTH is more up and down, I would say. I'm guessing they are and will remain a solid middle of the pack conference team, sometimes moving higher for a season or 2.

Like every team, NIL and all the other considerations going forward are going to have an affect.

We were considering going to the Kansas games as a road trip but decided to do Utah and Colorado in a couple weeks instead. We have been in Missouri / Kansas City a couple times in the last few years and probably will go to the Big 12 Tourney there in another year or 2.

 

[azfan]

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We were considering going to the Kansas games as a road trip but decided to do Utah and Colorado in a couple weeks instead. We have been in Missouri / Kansas City a couple times in the last few years and probably will go to the Big 12 Tourney there in another year or 2.

I think both would be challenging road games for the kitties. If you're making it a road trip in spite of the weather it should be fun. I've always found Utah to be really beautiful.

As the season trudges on for the two Arizona schools I certainly do not hope that the dirty t is facing the same prospects that we've suffered in Tempe since the retirement CTT. No amount of nil will help the Sun Devils until there's a coaching change and more importantly a commitment from the administration to support women's basketball. The commitment proceeds the coaching change as no decent coach is going to show up in Tempe without some sort of assurance there will be a commitment to the program.

The dirty t on the other hand always supports their basketball and I suspect even more NIL would be available for the right prospect. I think there must be a growing doubt in people's mind whether Barnes is the coach.

So I'm the second half of the vacation to the Sunshine State the Sun devils will notch another l on their way to a third consecutive 20 loss season. In fact looking at the schedule other than UCF it's hard for me to see any prospect for a win although given the up and down, down and down season with the kitties we might be able to get a split particularly if Cunningham falls out in the pregame shoot around.

 

[ISUnorth]

Kansas St. is the better team. Probably the odds on favorite to win the Big 12. The rock, chalk thing is KU. You'd get some really dirty looks if you said something about that if you were in Manhattan, KS.

Was watching Iowa/Nebraska and checked the box at half of the KSU/Arizona game and saw Lee only played 5 minutes and wasn't in fouled trouble. I've noticed Mittie seems to be metering her minutes this season (a lot) but thought maybe she had been injured. Final shows she played 20 minutes without much scoring but had a million blocks.

Looking at her individual stats and she is only playing 20 minutes a game, I wouldn't have guessed that low. Will be interesting to see how Mittie manages minutes versus ISU (two games) and TCU. Not sure if we have any KSU fans here or not but I am wondering if she can't play more or if they are trying to protect her knees/ankle. Seeing her limp around some years was hard to watch.

 

[catsfan11]

Was watching Iowa/Nebraska and checked the box at half of the KSU/Arizona game and saw Lee only played 5 minutes and wasn't in fouled trouble. I've noticed Mittie seems to be metering her minutes this season (a lot) but thought maybe she had been injured. Final shows she played 20 minutes without much scoring but had a million blocks.

Looking at her individual stats and she is only playing 20 minutes a game, I wouldn't have guessed that low. Will be interesting to see how Mittie manages minutes versus ISU (two games) and TCU. Not sure if we have any KSU fans here or not but I am wondering if she can't play more or if they are trying to protect her knees/ankle. Seeing her limp around some years was hard to watch.

There may have been something nagging in the first half, but whatever it was, she played 15 in the 2nd half. Guessing it wasn't too bad. I thought Arizona did a really good job defending her last night, not even letting her get the ball. She didn't have a FG attempt until the 4th quarter. That said, she was a big difference for us on defense. 8 blocks in the game.

On the year, she has definitely been on limited minutes. A bit of that has been foul trouble, but we have definitely saved her. I think a lot of that has been trying to save her and have her as fresh as we can late in the year. Bringing in Taylor out of the portal and having Lester develop a bit has really allowed us to do that.

 

[nwhoopfan]

I didn't realize that Kennady McQueen has been out for several games for Utah. That might be a factor in their recent struggles. Down BIG @ TCU tonight.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Utah trailed by 21 at the half, I think the deficit was as much as 24. They came storming back in 2nd half. Cut the lead to 5 or 6 several times. Kneepkens had a huge 2nd half. TCU is gonna hang on though. Kneepkens scored 21 of her 26 in the 2nd half. Van Lith had 24, 23 for Prince. 81-73 final.

TCU improves to 19-1. They got hammered by South Carolina, they do have that big win against Notre Dame. Next 4 are against Oklahoma St., Baylor, Iowa St. and Kansas St. 3 of the 4 are on the road. Will be interesting to see where they stand after that stretch.

 

[azfan]

There may have been something nagging in the first half, but whatever it was, she played 15 in the 2nd half. Guessing it wasn't too bad. I thought Arizona did a really good job defending her last night, not even letting her get the ball. She didn't have a FG attempt until the 4th quarter. That said, she was a big difference for us on defense. 8 blocks in the game.

On the year, she has definitely been on limited minutes. A bit of that has been foul trouble, but we have definitely saved her. I think a lot of that has been trying to save her and have her as fresh as we can late in the year. Bringing in Taylor out of the portal and having Lester develop a bit has really allowed us to do that.

Absolutely. Total lockdown defensively on the kitties from the dirty t. KSU had plenty of offense from other sources. While UofA is a middlingI thought the defensive effort against them was really impressive.

 

[ISUnorth]

There may have been something nagging in the first half, but whatever it was, she played 15 in the 2nd half. Guessing it wasn't too bad. I thought Arizona did a really good job defending her last night, not even letting her get the ball. She didn't have a FG attempt until the 4th quarter. That said, she was a big difference for us on defense. 8 blocks in the game.

On the year, she has definitely been on limited minutes. A bit of that has been foul trouble, but we have definitely saved her. I think a lot of that has been trying to save her and have her as fresh as we can late in the year. Bringing in Taylor out of the portal and having Lester develop a bit has really allowed us to do that.

Thanks. Read later that she did tweak something earlier in the game. Being a Minnesotan I have a soft spot for the Minnesota gals, especially one's that were sort of unheralded recruits like Lee and Iowa's Monika Czinano that turned into really good players.

 

[azfan]

Ready for ASU/KSU tip. The anticipation is breath taking. Fittingly the Sun Devils are wearing black - just as one would to a funeral. Wait, Ice Brown nails a jumper to open the game. Could this be the upset of the day? The week? The month? The year? The decade?

 

[azfan]

ASU, a 32 point dog, is hanging with the Wildcats (kitties?) Understandable that KSU would be looking past the woeful Devils so the second quarter (and half) will be a reality check - for both teams. Ice Brown has 10 points on 4-5 shooting and one wonders where that KSU defense is? I mean, the Cats closed down the kitties earlier this week. ESPN plus just flashed on the screen Tasha Adair was the 2021 CAA Coach of the Year. Hum. . . .the Pac 12 and now the Big 12 are not the CAA. . . .so. . . .is this going to be the signature loss for Adair and the Devils - in the face of predicted -32 point ASU keeps the loss to single digits? Do you believe? Will the Wildcats wake up? Or will they be kitties?

 

[ISUnorth]

Iowa State got smoked in the 1st quarter and Morgantown after that the game was never really in doubt for WVU. ISU was without PG Emily Ryans which compounded the ISU issues with the press but the WVU's half court defense was also really good. When the game was decide in the 1st half WVU gave ISU almost no good looks from three while also frustrating Audi Crooks in the paint.

KSU, like true cats, spent most of their home game versus ASU playing with thir prey. Another odd minutes played by Ayoka Lee, only 13 minutes and no rebounds.

The other cats playing today, Arizona, are not messing around and looking to kill the Jayhawks. Up by 14 at the half in Lawrence, KS.

 

[catsfan11]

Iowa State got smoked in the 1st quarter and Morgantown after that the game was never really in doubt for WVU. ISU was without PG Emily Ryans which compounded the ISU issues with the press but the WVU's half court defense was also really good. When the game was decide in the 1st half WVU gave ISU almost no good looks from three while also frustrating Audi Crooks in the paint.

KSU, like true cats, spent most of their home game versus ASU playing with thir prey. Another odd minutes played by Ayoka Lee, only 13 minutes and no rebounds.

The other cats playing today, Arizona, are not messing around and looking to kill the Jayhawks. Up by 14 at the half in Lawrence, KS.

Unfortunately for K-State this one was pretty costly as it sounds like a more long term injury for Lee. Coach Mittie made it pretty clear after the game that this wasn't going to be something that was just a week or two. Horrible timing for the cats, coming up on their toughest stretch of games in the Big 12. This team is built to handle her absence much better than last year, but she is obviously a huge loss.

 

[cancontent]

Unfortunately for K-State this one was pretty costly as it sounds like a more long term injury for Lee. Coach Mittie made it pretty clear after the game that this wasn't going to be something that was just a week or two. Horrible timing for the cats, coming up on their toughest stretch of games in the Big 12. This team is built to handle her absence much better than last year, but she is obviously a huge loss.

Was about to post this too. Like c'mon......one player who deserves one healthy season.

 

[ISUnorth]

Unfortunately for K-State this one was pretty costly as it sounds like a more long term injury for Lee. Coach Mittie made it pretty clear after the game that this wasn't going to be something that was just a week or two. Horrible timing for the cats, coming up on their toughest stretch of games in the Big 12. This team is built to handle her absence much better than last year, but she is obviously a huge loss.

Well, crap. She's had the worst luck with knee injuries, and last year the bad ankle.

 

[12au]

FWIW, If you watch 2Q, there's no obvious point where Lee gets injured. She's limping around a bit, but not dissimilarly from what we've seen this season and last

 

[catsfan11]

I thought the ASU guards did a great job today, especially Brown who was just on fire. She made some tough shots. The line being 32 was wild for that game though. If there is one thing that K-State struggles to defend, it is quick guards that can create for themselves. ASU may not be great, but that was one thing they can do really well.

Going forward, it will be interesting to see how K-State handles Lee's absence. Maupin was the answer today, but I think we will see a lot more of Taylor and Lester, depending on match ups. Really disappointed we won't get to see Lee vs. Prince in a couple weeks now.

 

[packwrap]

FWIW, If you watch 2Q, there's no obvious point where Lee gets injured. She's limping around a bit, but not dissimilarly from what we've seen this season and last

She has recently been playing limited minutes, perhaps a nagging injury she has been battling became now serious.

Really sad for her.

They may be able to fight on, but she's been their centerpiece for 3 seasons now.

 

[ISUnorth]

I thought the ASU guards did a great job today, especially Brown who was just on fire. She made some tough shots. The line being 32 was wild for that game though. If there is one thing that K-State struggles to defend, it is quick guards that can create for themselves. ASU may not be great, but that was one thing they can do really well.

Going forward, it will be interesting to see how K-State handles Lee's absence. Maupin was the answer today, but I think we will see a lot more of Taylor and Lester, depending on match ups. Really disappointed we won't get to see Lee vs. Prince in a couple weeks now.

The TCU forfeit last year got the Lee/Prince game lost to. Same for Prince/Crooks last year, missed forfeit game. Was looking forward to a another couple of Lee/Crooks battles coming up. Will have to just settle for one Prince/Crooks game.