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Big 12 Pushing For UConn Part Deux!

So what if it is? Even if the same network is airing the game, it means ESPN would be paying the ACC and not the SEC for Clemson's home games, and the ACC schools would have more money to divide up and the SEC less.
Sort of. The ACC schools wouldn't get any windfall. They would just be entitled to their existing contract. Likewise, ESPN is unlikely to pay the SEC for content that it already owns via the ACC GOR.
 
Sort of. The ACC schools wouldn't get any windfall. They would just be entitled to their existing contract. Likewise, ESPN is unlikely to pay the SEC for content that it already owns via the ACC GOR.
Yes, they get the same total dollars and split it up with one less mouth to feed. Hence, windfall.
 
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Yes, they get the same total dollars and split it up with one less mouth to feed. Hence, windfall.
Yep. It isn't that the schools would have "more money to divide up". The total pie remains the same. Instead each gets a larger share, assuming that the conference chooses to divide the departing schools share equally.
 
Beyond that ESPN already owns Clemson's home conference games for less than they would pay under the SEC pro-rata. They have little incentive to move them to the SEC and pay more for that content.

When you get to the playoff as well (which ESPN owns the rights too) what's more attractive? Clemson as a 12-1 ACC champ or Clemson as an 8-4 SEC at large? Especially when you figure now they're stuck with a 10-3 Pitt as the ACC champ eating up a spot that could've been another SEC or Big Ten team. Clemson & FSU are more valuable properties in the ACC.


One of the things that I think Yormark is betting on, is that football revenue growth stagnates. There are only so many time-slots you can air football games on and there aren't a lot of options to capture more attractive content then the Big Ten or SEC games their partner networks already own. For basketball there are more time slots that can be captured and multiple teams that have brand value still available (i.e. UConn) to create more matchups that can help bring more value to that side of the contract. He's probably correct that it's under-valued, but also faces a need to convince the membership that while football first is correct, the best/easiest place to add value to the next TV contract is probably in basketball.
With the contract that Yormack obtained for the B12 shortly after the Oklahoma and Texas departures particularly given it was an overwhelming concensus the conference was done and people began digging a grave for it he’s earned a lot of cachet to make that possible.

It wasn’t too long ago forum members considered Hurley would be on the hot seat if he got bounced out of the first round again. Now people are treating him like he can turn water into wine. In Dan we trust is pretty much unanimous in the men’s bb forum.

Some of the schools might have some fear or scepticism of UConn but I believe they’ll continue to follow Yormack’s plan so long as he remains successful.
 
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I think so too. Uconn leaves BIG EAST the next media deal tanks!

I don‘t believe that will happen. The payout is very low now, but I would think there will not be a significant increase in payout.
 
The most well connected Big 12 writer from the Oklahoman seconds my beliefs that church league members like UConn simply do not move the needle and have no support from the universities.

 
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I don‘t believe that will happen. The payout is very low now, but I would think there will not be a significant increase in payout.
With us it's rumored to be $8 million per team. It certainly won't be more without us.
 
super interesting reading all this, this months looks to maybe finish exciting with all this realignment.
 
I think the B12 is looking at $50M per team not the $30M bandied about. So, we would be friggin nuts not to jump. Better conference in Football (actually no conf), men’s basketball, women’s basketball, baseball , softball, track, swimming, volleyball, golf. Maybe the BE has an edge in rowing.
 
The most well connected Big 12 writer from the Oklahoman seconds my beliefs that church league members like UConn simply do not move the needle and have no support from the universities.


For the most well connected Big 12 writer you’d think he’d listen to what Yormark says before writing an incorrect dissertation on Twitter.
 
Where I think things get more interesting is would they want to show them? Would ACC partners be angered that a school that left the conference is still being shown under a part of their media contract instead of them? If they don't show them then ESPN is foregoing the potential revenue. Would the refusal to show the departing teams games constitute "frustration of purpose" regarding the original grant of rights? To be honest, I'd really love to see one of these things get litigated because there are a ton of moving pieces to it.
My understanding of the GOR was much more simplistic. If a team left for the big 10 they could go and play on their network and be a full member of the league, however when the tv money came in their money would get sent to the ACC office and not their school.
 
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My understanding of the GOR was much more simplistic. If a team left for the big 10 they could go and play on their network and be a full member of the league, however when the tv money came in their money would get sent to the ACC office and not their school.
You know, that is a possibility and not and reasonable one. I view it as no one other than ESPN can broadcaster games because the leak transferred their rights to ESPN.
 
I hope so. I struggle to temper my optimism. The nay sayers are backward minded compared to BY hopefully. Just taking any PAC school because they are P5 and okay in FB doesn’t seem bold to me.

Colorado is an interesting case I've been following since Sal Aunese. They have a lot going for them including decent markets and a very desirable location. They seem to have gotten in their own way lately, but I think the FB and BB potential is still there to win and draw viewers as well as their fan base. They also have a decent NE Alumni fan base. If you don't want to travel there not sure what to tell you.
 
For the most well connected Big 12 writer you’d think he’d listen to what Yormark says before writing an incorrect dissertation on Twitter.

Agreed, Kobe and Barry for that matter have not been paying attention to what Yormark has been saying.

This round of expansion is not just about football driving the bus, but understanding where to maximize potential future media deals and opening up bigger media markets.

All of the negative sentiment comes from people that are behind the paradigm shift of college athletic media deals.

Yormark is taking an outside of the box approach and the Big 12 in the end might be the blue print for future conference expansion.
 
You think they are going to move the Big 12 tournament to MSG because of us?
The Big 12 may rotate the tournament, but it will remain in Kansas City the majority of the time. Once you've been to it, you'll understand why.
 
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UConn fans who want to stay Big East are cool with the small regional rivalries. I get it to some degree and I was really excited to go back for basketball. But this is not sustainable long term.

I believe the plan is to get UConn in now since we have no GOR to start the eastern wing of Big 12. Then I when the ACC GOR exported ACC wil be picked apart by the last three major conferences.

Pitt, Louisville, Syracuse, and NC state will jump at the chance as soon as they can. If we don’t go now we won’t have a good spot when the music stops.
 
They know. It's just twisting reality to prop up their argument.

I do not care what we do but it's funny seeing how much lying by omission and general ignorance there is whenever this topic comes up.

I agree those are great locations for games but we can still schedule them OCC as well as other local teams. We have done it before and will do it again if everyone handles this with grace.
 
The Big 12 may rotate the tournament, but it will remain in Kansas City the majority of the time. Once you've been to it, you'll understand why.
Feel free to elaborate.
Yep, I think it's going to happen, too, and the naysayers are going to be mindblown.
If we go it's a big win for DB who probably is the central player with maybe an assist from Hurley. Or Hurley Sr.? Not sure either would be against it.
 
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