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Big 12 and ACC are fumbling with their expansion apprehensiveness? They will become 2nd class BBall citizens as well if they continue.

As discussed in the Key Tweets hell in a handbasket thread, the ACC and ESPN are close to an agreement. All I care about is, will this affect UConn?

Divide the ACC into 3 tiers.
Tier 1 FSU and Clemson, maybe UNC, Miami. They may be somewhat appeased because they'll be able to break free in a few years paying lower penalties. But they are still in a tty revenue situation for 5 years making much less than the P2.
Tier 2 Middle of the pack - I don't see how they are happy at all. They are expected to give up revenue to Tier 1 while they believe they are just as valuable. Then the best programs will leave anyway. I don't think so.
Tier 3 cuse, wake, bcu, louisville, etc. - They may be somewhat happy because they are safely in a conference and happy to make whatever they can, knowing it will eventually be downgraded. Inevitability.
It's just a collection of programs all with different agendas.

The Big 12 at 16 members may still be interested in UConn and the Northeast. The Big 12 may make a move if the ACC-espn agreement goes through knowing those acc programs are off the table.

 
Kolumbo said:
As discussed in the Key Tweets hell in a handbasket thread, the ACC and ESPN are close to an agreement. All I care about is, will this affect UConn?

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The Big 12 at 16 members may still be interested in UConn and the Northeast. The Big 12 may make a move if the ACC-espn agreement goes through knowing those acc programs are off the table.
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Short term, I wonder if that maybe gets us some games with the lower tiered schools in that conference if they won't be playing the upper ones more due to the ND agreement. Your last 2 statements though are all I care about cuz if schools were available, they would take spots that could've been offered to us...I don't want a repeat of last year's CR clusterflub.
 
Cal in the ACC

"There were no more flights available by the time Cal finally landed in Miami that evening. In the airport, Malcom gathered her team and delivered the news: They would in fact have to take a bus to Florida State. “I was like, ‘All right, this is the moment of adapt and adjust,’” Malcom recalls telling her team in the Miami airport. “‘Here we go.’”"
"And all because of a busted toilet, Cal women’s volleyball rode through Florida for eight bleary-eyed hours, and they arrived in Tallahassee 12 hours before their 6:30 p.m. game. They lost in three sets."

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ACC Travel Takes Its Toll on Cal, Stanford

At Cal and Stanford, fall sports teams traveled tens of thousands of miles farther than their last seasons in the Pac-12.
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Kolumbo said:
Cal in the ACC

"There were no more flights available by the time Cal finally landed in Miami that evening. In the airport, Malcom gathered her team and delivered the news: They would in fact have to take a bus to Florida State. “I was like, ‘All right, this is the moment of adapt and adjust,’” Malcom recalls telling her team in the Miami airport. “‘Here we go.’”"
"And all because of a busted toilet, Cal women’s volleyball rode through Florida for eight bleary-eyed hours, and they arrived in Tallahassee 12 hours before their 6:30 p.m. game. They lost in three sets."

frontofficesports.com

ACC Travel Takes Its Toll on Cal, Stanford

At Cal and Stanford, fall sports teams traveled tens of thousands of miles farther than their last seasons in the Pac-12.
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Well......as long as all of this realignment has the best interest of the "college athlete" at heart......

Honestly, what a joke. We really need to send college volleyball teams across the country on a regular basis to promote competition, to say nothing about what it means to the kids?
 
Kolumbo said:
Cal in the ACC

"There were no more flights available by the time Cal finally landed in Miami that evening. In the airport, Malcom gathered her team and delivered the news: They would in fact have to take a bus to Florida State. “I was like, ‘All right, this is the moment of adapt and adjust,’” Malcom recalls telling her team in the Miami airport. “‘Here we go.’”"
"And all because of a busted toilet, Cal women’s volleyball rode through Florida for eight bleary-eyed hours, and they arrived in Tallahassee 12 hours before their 6:30 p.m. game. They lost in three sets."

frontofficesports.com

ACC Travel Takes Its Toll on Cal, Stanford

At Cal and Stanford, fall sports teams traveled tens of thousands of miles farther than their last seasons in the Pac-12.
frontofficesports.com frontofficesports.com
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I don't think this will be sustainable.
 
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Kolumbo said:
Plenty of Cal and Cal State options in the Big West and WCC for volleyball players. They may not be Standford or call, but a volleyball player can get a heck of an education at UC-Davis or Pepperdine and hardly ever leave California.
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totally.

why would you, as a Cal/Stanford olympic sport player who likely will see the end of all things sports-wise at graduation, risk your academics (which you are actually there for, unlike football/bball players) for the sake of this sport that is not going to take you anywhere meaningful after this? cross country trips for the volleyball or soccer teams, is going to hurt these kids fatigue/academic-wise in ways they don't deserve to be hurt. Keeping in mind that athletes at Cal and Stanford a lot of times are in pre-law/pre-med tracks and/or STEM majors, they don't have the luxury an auburn football player has, to not care.
 
Memphis, USF, and Tulane mentioned for the ACC on “Locked on Big 12” and other sites. No talk of us.
 
Redding Husky said:
Memphis, USF, and Tulane mentioned for the ACC on “Locked on Big 12” and other sites. No talk of us.
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I saw that exact video and commented that there's no way the ACC would take those schools over UConn. B12 fans kept trying to tell me Memphis and USF brought more value and I was stunned lol
 
cellocgg said:
I saw that exact video and commented that there's no way the ACC would take those schools over UConn. B12 fans kept trying to tell me Memphis and USF brought more value and I was stunned lol
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The only way I could see USF or Tulane being added to The ACC would be as replacements for existing members not additions to the current lineup. There is no financial incentive to adding either now. Memphis feels like a non-starter for The ACC. UConn should keep its focus on the Big 12 as The ACC always seems to find a justification for not adding the most logical addition in The Huskies.
 
cellocgg said:
I saw that exact video and commented that there's no way the ACC would take those schools over UConn.
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Ldandy said:
... The ACC always seems to find a justification for not adding the most logical addition in The Huskies.
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The last several rounds of CR have shown that the All Cretins Crew will ALWAYS take other schools instead of UConn. Their stupidity is such that I expect a retort regarding UConn to be "we have no plans to expand into Canada at this time".
 
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On media: Brett Yormark, Big 12 basketball and a strategic play for the streaming age
Jon Wilner
PUBLISHED: April 16, 2025 at 12:12 PM PDT

But when the topic turned to the value of college basketball, Yormark went where no power conference commissioner has gone before — to a strategic space he alone has inhabited since taking charge of the Big 12 in the summer of 2022.

“I understand what football means in the landscape of collegiate athletics, and it’s at the center, for sure,” Yormark told CBS. “But basketball matters. I said it when I got here, and I’ll continue to double down.”

Basketball is top-of-mind for Yormark on a daily basis. It played an important role in his expansion push in 2023, particularly with Arizona’s rich tradition. It spurred him to consider Connecticut and Gonzaga, as well. And it will play a critical role when the Big 12 heads to market in five years to negotiate a new media rights contract.

“Basketball’s undervalued in this ecosystem,” Yormark, a former executive with the New Jersey Nets, explained to CBS. “And right now, it’s providing an incredible lift for our profile and narrative, and it will continue to do so in the future.”

 
Meh. We’ve seen this play out.

2 back to back BB NC’s, women win 12th NC this year. Seems counterintuitive to say this while UConn sits on the sidelines.

Football coming off great season, looking to take another step forward.

If you don’t invite UConn now, when do you?
 
The thing I need you guys to understand is; nobody gives a crap about women's basketball. That will have absolutely ZERO impact on conference realignment.
 
uconnyankee said:
Meh. We’ve seen this play out.

2 back to back BB NC’s, women win 12th NC this year. Seems counterintuitive to say this while UConn sits on the sidelines.

Football coming off great season, looking to take another step forward.

If you don’t invite UConn now, when do you?
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charlie brown GIF
 
Redding Husky said:
Memphis, USF, and Tulane mentioned for the ACC on “Locked on Big 12” and other sites. No talk of us.
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Well, given how they shhhat the bed on our joining the big 12, maybe that's a good thing
 
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CL82 said:
Well, given how they shhhat the bed on our joining the big 12, maybe that's a good thing
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I can’t see how the Big 12 would want more mid. None of those programs are remotely accretive.

Zanetto got canned from the Locked On network btw.
 
ZooCougar said:
I can’t see how the Big 12 would want more mid. None of those programs are remotely accretive.

Zanetto got canned from the Locked On network btw.
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I did not know that, but I did notice that he had a new program name. The "locked on big 12" guy got it equally wrong.
 
ZooCougar said:
www.hoopshq.com

Baylor Lost All Its Players. Now What?

Scott Drew runs one of the top programs at Baylor, but a limited NIL budget led to a complete exodus of his roster.
www.hoopshq.com www.hoopshq.com

Baylor: “UConn doesn’t have the NIL budget to compete in the Big 12”

probably
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More accurately, Baylor doesn't have the players to compete with UConn. Further, UConn would compete at the highest level of the Big12 annually. To think otherwise is pure folly.
 
CL82 said:
I did not know that, but I did notice that he had a new program name. The "locked on big 12" guy got it equally wrong.
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That’s because he probably got info from you know who.
 
ZooCougar said:
That’s because he probably got info from you know who.
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I don't know if Zanetto killed our big 12 bid by leaking it early, but he certainly didn't help it. I actually don't blame him so much as whomever was the idiot who leaked it to him. That said, I never clicked on a video of his from that point forward.
 
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CL82 said:
I don't know if Zanetto killed our big 12 bid by leaking it early, but he certainly didn't help it. I actually don't blame him so much as whomever was the idiot who leaked it to him. That said, I never clicked on a video of his from that point forward.
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Kind of like Colin Cowherd with me
 
ZooCougar said:
www.hoopshq.com

Baylor Lost All Its Players. Now What?

Scott Drew runs one of the top programs at Baylor, but a limited NIL budget led to a complete exodus of his roster.
www.hoopshq.com www.hoopshq.com

Baylor: “UConn doesn’t have the NIL budget to compete in the Big 12”

probably
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UConn doesn’t even get a piece of the Big 12 pie every year and they still a compete in basketball, football and baseball. All they get is yearly chump change from the Big East.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
OK State and Baylor might make P4 revenue but they have little to show for it.
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There's this idea I hear online from B12 and ACC fans that UConn's doesn't generate enough revenue and relies too heavily on subsidies...

You try running a P5 AD on G5 money lol. Any other power school in our shoes would do the same thing in the absence of crazy media money. If we did get into the P5 then obviously we wouldn't be getting the same subsidies

I propose to these people then should all power schools be kicked out of their conference? If our admission is frowned upon because of our subsidies and other P5s would do the same thing in our shoes, why should they get to stay? Illogical, circular reasoning from these people
 
cellocgg said:
There's this idea I hear online from B12 and ACC fans that UConn's doesn't generate enough revenue and relies too heavily on subsidies...

You try running a P5 AD on G5 money lol. Any other power school in our shoes would do the same thing in the absence of crazy media money. If we did get into the P5 then obviously we wouldn't be getting the same subsidies

I propose to these people then should all power schools be kicked out of their conference? If our admission is frowned upon because of our subsidies and other P5s would do the same thing in our shoes, why should they get to stay? Illogical, circular reasoning from these people
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They don’t understand that the only difference between us and them is conference revenue because actual, experienced journalists write articles that parrot this exact belief. It’s maddening and it shows their complete incompetence.
 
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