BG versus EDD

[Tonyc]

BG is Manute Bol EDD is Larry Bird. I take EDD over Griner if Im starting a team. Think about this how good would Glory Johnson and EDD be playing for Geno?????????

 

[VAUConnFan]

Baylor squeezed by a UConn team that was a few games into a season where the vast majority of their team were either freshmen with a few games under their belt or sophomores with one season and just a few games as college players. UConn, being that young, it was more a matter of the Huskies not quite knowing how to win rather than Baylor beating them. They lost by a few points in a hostile environment so technically you could say Baylor beat UConn but towards the end of the game, UConn did more to beat themselves. This is not to say that Baylor didn't play well, particularly as the game went on but you have to know that UConn's inexperience was a key factor in that victory. I know that Baylor isn't a senior laden team either but they're nothing compared to UConn. Every time I read your posts I feel that there is an underlying bit Why is it that whenever I read your posts I feel that there's a lot of trash talk going on. If Griner were to be injured, Baylor would be a very very ordinary team even with an outstanding guard like Sims. Their accompanying players are a lot more like role players who feed off the defense of Griner and her being virtually undefendable on the offensive side when she's hitting shots because of her freakish height and athleticism. If Griner changed jerseys for one game and played for Delaware, Delaware would totally humiliate Baylor. As you may have figured out, I'm not a fan of Baylor nor am I a fan of their coach. I may be in the minority because of that position but I'll never forget her taking that cheap shot a couple of years ago that she got virtually no punishment for.

The punishment Ms Griner received was exactly as prescribed in the NCAA Rulebook. And, the rules have not been changed since the incident, so there may be a number of people like yourself, who believe that the punishment was not harsh enough; The powers that be on the NCAA Rules Committee, however, are quite comfortable with it.
If you were the arbiter, how many games would you have given Ms Griner? Are you willing to establish a precedent? What would your ruling be based upon?

 

[DaddyChoc]

BG is Manute Bol EDD is Larry Bird. I take EDD over Griner if Im starting a team. Think about this how good would Glory Johnson and EDD be playing for Geno?????????

Manute? I hope thats a joke...

 

[easttexastrash]

BG is Manute Bol EDD is Larry Bird. I take EDD over Griner if Im starting a team. Think about this how good would Glory Johnson and EDD be playing for Geno?????????

Manute...LOL. That comparison is so ridiculous that you have lost total credibility.

 

[easttexastrash]

I'm not sure Tenn will beat Del. if they meet (maybe you are), and Baylor beat Tenn by less than 10. Why would Baylor win by at least 30 over Del. when they didn't even beat KSU by over 30 on average in their 2 games and beat St Johns by 14 when St Johns still had players missing. Del beat PSU and lost to Maryland by 9 and was within 6 with 4 minutes to go.

Griner is good at chasing you down or stationary blocks, not so good when she needs to come at you to stop you (like most players). She gets a lot of blocks on players other than her guy driving to basket. I expect lot of jump shots from EDD with Griner no where near her. I would expect Baylor to put one of their burly forwards on EDD and beat the crap out of her until the refs finally step in. Delaware's team looks like it can play, EDD plays lot of minutes (i.e. no foul trouble) expect them to be in it against Baylor and make the bears work for 40 minutes.

Baylor beating Florida tonight by 30 would be a lot and Florida was 8-8 in the SEC. Don't think you are giving Delaware team enough credit, Maryland is a pretty athletic team and it was a real game between the two.

Baylor beat Kansas by 31...Kansas beat UD by 6. I guess Baylor would have beaten UD by 37, not 30.

This is how ridiculous the "they beat so-and-so by 25 points so they will be so-and-so by 31 points" stuff is. If you didn't see the game you don't know what all went on. Would Baylor have bean UD by 37? Maybe, but probably not.

 

[alexrgct]

EDD isn't Larry Bird, either, beyond a couple of circumstantial similarities (leaving a presitigious program, taking some time away from the game, resurfacing at a lesser program).

There are some people you just shouldn't compare anyone to out of fairness to all concerned, and Larry Legend is one of them.

 

[jermy201]

One man teams don't last long, ask Jackie Stiles.

 

[DaddyChoc]

EDD isn't Larry Bird, either, beyond a couple of circumstantial similarities (leaving a presitigious program, taking some time away from the game, resurfacing at a lesser program).

There are some people you just shouldn't compare anyone to out of fairness to all concerned, and Larry Legend is one of them.

I agree

 

[Tonyc]

Perhaps I need to clarify Manute and Larry vs Griner and EDD. I watched Maute in college at the UofBridgeport which is just down the road from SHU where I went to college. Manute dominated the middle and blocked shots without jumping. He also dunked without jumping. He dunked flat footed. He also had an outside shot. I know Griner cant do most of those but does dominate the middle and because of her height is tuff to guard just like Manute was in college. EDD can shoot from anywhere creates her own shot, rebounds and is pretty much unstoppable one on one. Just like Larry was in college. Now if you want to compare pro vs college you cant yet. I agree you its tuff to compare anybody to anybody. For me EDD is the best player in WCBB.

 

[VAUConnFan]

One man teams don't last long, ask Jackie Stiles.

While I certainly agree to a very large extent, it would be difficult making the Jackie Stiles comparison because SW Missouri State was a Final four Team in 2001, a decent measure of success.

 

[bertieboy]

Boy, was I wrong. Delaware couldn't even beat Kansas. That leaves them no chance against Baylor. I tuned in with 10 minutes to go and saw that they had exhausted EDD and Delaware had no defense. Kansas scored layup after layup.

 

[easttexastrash]

Boy, was I wrong. Delaware couldn't even beat Kansas. That leaves them no chance against Baylor. I tuned in with 10 minutes to go and saw that they had exhausted EDD and Delaware had no defense. Kansas scored layup after layup.

EDD was spent. BG gets pushed all game every game and usually plays 40 minutes when the opponent is of a higher quality. I dare to say that BG is in better shape than EDD. Playing weak opponents doesn't provide the day to day game toughness you need to stay at a high level the entire game against more athletic, physical defenses.

Kansas really bailed UD out by fouling EDD a lot, but then again, when a player is much better you tend to foul them. IMO, Baylor would not send her to the line that much and her shooting percentage would probably be a bit lower than it was against Kansas.

 

[justML]

Without EDD, Delaware would never have gotten as far into the tourney as they did. That one player could bring a team so far, almost on her own, highlights her special talent.

JMHO

 

[WillB4]

Without EDD, Delaware would never have gotten as far into the tourney as they did. That one player could bring a team so far, almost on her own, highlights her special talent.

JMHO

Without her they are lucky to a .500 club.

 

[John Fryer]

BG is Manute Bol EDD is Larry Bird. I take EDD over Griner if Im starting a team. Think about this how good would Glory Johnson and EDD be playing for Geno?????????

Really? Do you really need to trash Griner? (Minute Bol, RIP, was never ever even considered to be a good player.)

Griner has proven that she is as good as she can be against the best.

EDD is very good. No arguments there.

But she is far from being the best ever.

Are you seriously suggesting that she would score like she has if she played against BE teams?

(Assuming that she wasn't playing for UConn or ND, of course.)

Peace,

John Fryer

 

[Scotter]

Kansas State by all accounts played great defense on her. Elena still had 34 points on very good shooting efficiency, 9-18 from the floor and 15-18 from the free throw line. Getting to the free throw line is what she does. She's the most efficient pure scorer that WCBB has seen, almost exactly a female Dirk Nowitzki.

Griner is more of an impact player than EDD. As great as Dirk is hypothetical teams are still going to draft Shaq first, but Elena can score prolifically on any level.

Are you seriously suggesting that she would score like she has if she played against BE teams?

(Assuming that she wasn't playing for UConn or ND, of course.)

Peace,

John Fryer

 

[easttexastrash]

To clarify, it was KU, not KSU.

I do not think EDD drops 30 on Baylor or UCONN. She would have a good game but if KU can tire her out just think of what these two teams would do. EDD is a tremendous scorer but she did look wiped out by the end of the game. She went to the line a lot because KU was determined to bump her all night long, especially when she was trying to come off screens.

 

[msf22b]

She's a wonderful player, truly wonderful, but BB is a team game.

 

[Tonyc]

Really? Do you really need to trash Griner? (Minute Bol, RIP, was never ever even considered to be a good player.)

Griner has proven that she is as good as she can be against the best.

EDD is very good. No arguments there.

But she is far from being the best ever.

Are you seriously suggesting that she would score like she has if she played against BE teams?

(Assuming that she wasn't playing for UConn or ND, of course.)

Peace,

John Fryer

First of all Im not trashing Griner by saying she reminds me of Manute. Manute was a great player who contained the middle and made it difficult for opponets to score just like Griner. As far as EDD. If she had played with Tina Renee and Maya yes I do think she would even be better then she showed us this season...dont you. I agree with Scotter EDD is the purest shooter WBB has ever seen.