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[storrsroars]

I'm not comparing the two at sake of not giving SDSU their flowers - they earned them deservedly. All I'm saying is let's not evaluate that SDSU team based solely on their tournament run, against a team of another year. The only way to evaluate is player/player and coach/coach, with the support of the computers. I recall that SDSU team well stylistically.

I would firmly agree that SDSU team would beat this year's Uconn team - but that's not a lofty accolade. We are a 35thish best team in the country this year.

Let's not forget, Seton Hall lead Kadari teams beat the 2023/24 and 24/25 team. Now he's with a much better cast. I wouldn't be that confident our 2023 team walks through them that easily. My view is that I'm seeing a lot more taking away from the quality of this StJ team than I am discrediting comparibles. They are the 1 KP team defensively in the country.

Just have to correct that Kadary's Hall teams beat us in NJ in 21-22/22-23/23-24. He averaged 23 pts across those three games.

While I wouldn't list them as a favorite against any of the #1s, I think SJU has a chance against everyone but Florida. They're the only squad with the depth to keep SJU's physicality to wear down their team. And I think Pitino can outoach any of those teams, making necessary adjustments. Of course a tightly called game does not favor them, so that's the big variable IMO.

 

[John]

Also starts almost all of his replies with multiple questions. It's an annoying pattern.

Rick Pitino has the cleanest balls in college sports thanks to the Boneyard.

 

[RuffRuff]

Just have to correct that Kadary's Hall teams beat us in NJ in 21-22/22-23/23-24. He averaged 23 pts across those three games.

While I wouldn't list them as a favorite against any of the #1s, I think SJU has a chance against everyone but Florida. They're the only squad with the depth to keep SJU's physicality to wear down their team. And I think Pitino can outoach any of those teams, making necessary adjustments. Of course a tightly called game does not favor them, so that's the big variable IMO.

You and I are thinking very similarly.

 

[Scoe]

I cannot see what? The view that this StJ team is comparable to that SDSU team? How anyway? Style of play? Quality of player? I think this StJ team is much better - maybe it's subjective, but the KenPom certainly supports that view. Do you think any non homer would say that the ease of path in the tournament doesn't matter? Do you think any non homer would say that two fields can have significantly different qualities of team?

Do I appreciate they won the Mountain West conference? Um, sure. Kind of a stupid point. This whole argument was about comparing StJ to SDSU. I think this StJ team would handle them easily. Let me revisit the SDSU starting 5. LeDee wasn't much of a factor on that team, came off bench, blossomed into the next.

Lamont Butler - 6'2" G 9ppg
Keshad Johnson - 6'7" F 7ppg
Matt Bradley - 6'4" G 12ppg
Darrion Tramell - 5'10 G 10ppg
Nate Mensah - 6"10" C non factor offensively

You think that team right there matches up with a team consisting of the BE POY, Kadari Smith and Zuby? That was a thick, short, fairly unathletic team that grinded you down physically. They made a run on a nice path, beat down a soft Bama Brandon Miller lead team that year on their way and then got favorable matchups.

Ok I have the matchup right here, 2023 SDSU vs 2024-25 St Johns I'll run a simulation. I'll make St Johns the home team on a neutral court.

WhatIfSports.com: Fantasy Sports Simulation -- NCAA Boxscore

SDSU wins 82-63

 

[RuffRuff]

Ok I have the matchup right here, 2023 SDSU vs 2024-25 St Johns I'll run a simulation. I'll make St Johns the home team on a neutral court.

WhatIfSports.com: Fantasy Sports Simulation -- NCAA Boxscore

SDSU wins 82-63

Who runs that simulator? Ant?

It definitely doesn’t jive with KP and that score is so ridiculous (SDSU probably didn’t score 82 all year and against StJ?), I’ll just assume a kindergartner in their basement made it.