outstanding post, til the 'harshin on the za' part. 'galoshes' and 'knickers' aren't too common anymore, or 'wooing and courting' either. in kali, sometimes they call it 'knocking boots.'Yeah, “pie” as a way to describe a pizza is almost as old as American pizza itself. There are a few good write ups on the origins of it: Why Is Pizza Called Pie? All About The Other Name For Pizza - Crust Kingdom
But in short, Italian immigrants were referring to “tomato pies” over 100 years ago. My great grandparents, who were both born in New Haven in 1916 called them that since they were born. Their parents arrived there a few years before that from Italy, not sure if they would have used the word since English wasn’t their native language.
‘Za, on the other hand, is a ridiculous term that best describes pizza acquired from a mall food court.
Some love for Mikey Nuzzo here; I rate it just a notch below the Big Three, but these guys have them at the top:
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say it seriously before. Ben in Parks and Rec refers to ‘za when trying to be cool with his interns. That was the last time I heard it said.I'm old enough and I've never heard anyone order or even refer to pizza as za. Abeetz yes za no way.
haha forgot about P&RI don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say it seriously before. Ben in Parks and Rec refers to ‘za when trying to be cool with his interns. That was the last time I heard it said.
I think 'za was started by Millenials because they thought it sounded cool and they were too lazy to pronounce 5 letters.I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say it seriously before. Ben in Parks and Rec refers to ‘za when trying to be cool with his interns. That was the last time I heard it said.
I guess from the same people who brought us "sup"I think 'za was started by Millenials because they thought it sounded cool and they were too lazy to pronounce 5 letters.
Some love for Mikey Nuzzo here; I rate it just a notch below the Big Three, but these guys have them at the top:
It wasn't until later that I tried Grand. When younger we'd go to Palm BeachNice! My brothers and I delivered the newspaper to the Nuzzo family when we were growing up in Fair Haven. Genuinely nice people. And Mikey is right, there were good pies being made all around New Haven back in the day... not just the big three. I regret not having my Grand Apizza ball cap from when I played for them in Dom Atro... we'd head down to Grand Avenue after a game and get free apizza! Nice to see the family keeping the business alive.
Lawng I land lingo I believeI'm old enough and I've never heard anyone order or even refer to pizza as za. Abeetz yes za no way.
Easier read if you convert to “readers view”... (I had this bookmarked):Count me in as one of those who thought apizza = pie. I learned something.
Still trying to understand the connection to the pies we always eat at Easter.
Excuse my phonetic spelling, but apizza gran and apizza gain were staples for Easter. So, I thought a pizza = pie.
Ham and grain pie. Very much traditional pie looks. Ham pie is also called pizza rustica.
Anyone have insight here?
They have a few West Haven reviews and discussions also; they talk too much imo but fwiw they rate Zupp’s the best in West Haven, just above Mike’s, where they say they prefer the non-pizza items.
They also have reviews of Tipsy Tomato in Derby, Olde Word and Michelina in North Haven and Papa’s in Milford but I haven’t watched them yet.
Olde world is legit. Best pie in north havenThey have a few West Haven reviews and discussions also; they talk too much imo but fwiw they rate Zupp’s the best in West Haven, just above Mike’s, where they say they prefer the non-pizza items.
They also have reviews of Tipsy Tomato in Derby, Olde Word and Michelina in North Haven and Papa’s in Milford but I haven’t watched them yet.
Agreed. Very Modern-like iirc. Used to go there a lot when they first opened and I lived in New Haven.Olde world is legit. Best pie in north haven
I can't speak to Renapoli, but generally speaking, awards for winning pizza competitions should be viewed with skepticism. A number of categories where one can "win" have nothing to do with pizza quality (e.g. dough spinning, where winners usually use special dough for spinning, not for making an actual pizza). Often winning pizzas themselves are not found on regular menus, or are made differently in store than at the competition. We have a local chain that's won many awards (including one for "dough stretching"?!) It bakes its pizzas in a conveyor oven, which is clue #1 that the pizza will suck. The pies are mediocre to bad, but there are trophies galore in the ads and photos on the walls.I had Renapoli out of Old Greenwich last night. Very underwhelming for the "5 time world champion" Probably crowned by an organization like a small time pro wrestling promotion