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Best player in the history of the BE or best player in the NBA from the BE?
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
MVPs have to be atop everyone else here. AI has one and he also carried a team to the Finals.

The MVP would make him #1 to me over Ewing.
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You may be right, besides the MVP at quick glance Iverson had more first team all-nba's both won ROY, Iverson with scoring titles and other accolades that surpass Ewing's trophy case. Its very close though as though neither's teams won it all, Ewing's were consistently better and modern analysis of Iverson's usage and efficiency aren't helpful to his case.
 
JakeTheDog said:
Saying Dwyane Wade is better than Ray isn’t disrespectful to Ray. Wade was an exceptional player.
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Not disrespecting Wade at all. Ray was an all time great and some here don’t get that.
 
Blue Blood said:
While at a bar over the weekend was talking to my PC fan buddy about how Ray was at the game on Friday. That conversation eventually evolved into who is the best NBA player to ever come out of the big east. I'll preface by saying we are in our mid 30s so not overly savvy on 80s early 90s BE but our list came down to four names Ray, Ewing, Iverson, and Melo. I'm sure we likely forgot people but who does the yard think is the best NBA player to come out of the BE.
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Upon reading the thread title, I immediately thought Ewing
 
Huskybass said:
Mullin from SJ deserves a mention.

Ray has 2 NBA Championships, but my gut says Ewing is the correct answer.
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Don’t forget mark Jackson and
HuskyFich said:
Top 5
1. Patrick Ewing
2. Ray Allen
3. Chris Mullin
4. Carmelo Anthony
5. Allen Iverson

HMs: Mutombo, Wade, Rip, Mourning
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mark jackson as well really changed that Indy team.
 
EricLA said:
Not to take a left turn on the thread topic, but I'm curious - is there anyone besides Carmelo who is considered a "great" (or even a very good) who came out of Syracuse? It's shocking how few have had an impact in the NBA besides Carmelo. Just asking since I love rubbing Cuse fans' noses in anything possible...

Was thinking maybe Sherman Douglas, Derrick Coleman, Rony Seikaly, and Hakim Warrick? They were all a while ago so I'm not sure of their NBA careers, but the amount of UCONN alums in the NBA who have had solid to very good to great careers seems exponentially higher... who wanted to play crap zone their entire college career anyway???
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They had a few guys in the 2010s who people thought were going to be good and then stunk, Wes Johnson, Johnny Flynn, Fab Melo (RIP). UConn has had more overall but there was a bit of a drought of anyone coming out since Drummond (and even with him) having much success. Hawkins though looks to be a true star, and hopefully Andre will stick around for a while.
 
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HuskyWarrior611 said:
MVPs have to be atop everyone else here. AI has one and he also carried a team to the Finals.

The MVP would make him #1 to me over Ewing.
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And led the league in scoring hit like 8 years in a row. Or something.
 
husky429 said:
It's either Ewing or Iverson, and it depends on how you define "best."

Best pure basketball ability? Iverson.

Most beneficial piece to a winning team? Ewing.

Allen is close behind those two.

Melo right after him.
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Best pure basketball ability? Iverson. Iverson was incredibly talented for his size, but was famously allergic to practice.
 
My first thought is Ewing, AI, Melo, Mullin and then everyone else. I obviously love Ray, but those four to me are at a tier above Ray. Ewing and AI were 7-time All-NBA players, Melo 6, Mullin 4. Ray had two. I feel like prime Mullin in GS were better than Ray's years in relative obscurity in Milwaukee and Seattle. Also, Wade is a tier above Ray. That's not an insult. Wade is probably the best two guard of all-time not named Jordan or Kobe.
 
Seems like a top 5 that can get a lot of agreement. Uncle Cliff is close to an all-time top 50 in points scored with almost 20k points and is up there of players from the Big East.
 
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boog204 said:
My first thought is Ewing, AI, Melo, Mullin and then everyone else. I obviously love Ray, but those four to me are at a tier above Ray. Ewing and AI were 7-time All-NBA players, Melo 6, Mullin 4. Ray had two. I feel like prime Mullin in GS were better than Ray's years in relative obscurity in Milwaukee and Seattle. Also, Wade is a tier above Ray. That's not an insult. Wade is probably the best two guard of all-time not named Jordan or Kobe.
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I've got Ray over Mullin and over Melo. Yep, Ray isn't close to Wade and I agree Wade is the third best shooting guard ever.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Iverson is not on the top assist list
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What a surprise
/s

Whether one likes the stat or not, I'm gonna list the top BE guys on NBA win share:
1. Allen (145)
2. Ewing (126)
3. Motumbo (117)
4. Anthony (109)
5. Iverson (99)
6. Mullen (93)
7. Jackson (92)
8. Mourning (90)
9. Uncle Cliffy (90)

I'll go with that.
 
storrsroars said:
What a surprise
/s

Whether one likes the stat or not, I'm gonna list the top BE guys on NBA win share:
1. Allen (145)
2. Ewing (126)
3. Motumbo (117)
4. Anthony (109)
5. Iverson (99)
6. Mullen (93)
7. Jackson (92)
8. Mourning (90)
9. Uncle Cliffy (90)

I'll go with that.
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That's pretty silly, Ray played with much better players than Iverson did.
 
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Ray Allen

1st ballot HOF
2nd in 3 point FGs made
2 rings

Nobody compares with that
 
I think the clear answer is Ewing. Followed by Ray, AI, Mullin, Melo, and probably Rip and D. Coleman in some order. If you count Marquette, DWade jumps to second.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
He carried a very mid Philly team to the Finals. His Philly teams were adequate at best.
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One year. And the East was horrible that year. Philly beat a lousy Celtics team in the Conference finals. Never did a thing since.
 
EricLA said:
Not to take a left turn on the thread topic, but I'm curious - is there anyone besides Carmelo who is considered a "great" (or even a very good) who came out of Syracuse? It's shocking how few have had an impact in the NBA besides Carmelo. Just asking since I love rubbing Cuse fans' noses in anything possible...

Was thinking maybe Sherman Douglas, Derrick Coleman, Rony Seikaly, and Hakim Warrick? They were all a while ago so I'm not sure of their NBA careers, but the amount of UCONN alums in the NBA who have had solid to very good to great careers seems exponentially higher... who wanted to play crap zone their entire college career anyway???
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Devendorf
 
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Waquoit said:
One year. And the East was horrible that year. Philly beat a lousy Celtics team in the Conference finals. Never did a thing since.
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No they didn't. Philly beat the Bucks with Ray, Big Dog, and Cassell in the Conference finals.
 
Waquoit said:
One year. And the East was horrible that year. Philly beat a lousy Celtics team in the Conference finals. Never did a thing since.
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He was on mostly mediocre to adequate teams, as I said.

That was also a historic playoff run. Then he averaged 36ppg in the finals against that great Lakers team. This is a silly argument.
 
storrsroars said:
What a surprise
/s

Whether one likes the stat or not, I'm gonna list the top BE guys on NBA win share:
1. Allen (145)
2. Ewing (126)
3. Motumbo (117)
4. Anthony (109)
5. Iverson (99)
6. Mullen (93)
7. Jackson (92)
8. Mourning (90)
9. Uncle Cliffy (90)

I'll go with that.
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Here’s the Hall of Fame Probability score from Basketball Reference:

Wade - 1.000 (not BE, but including for comparison)
Iverson - 0.9998
Ewing - 0.9994
Allen - 0.9987
Anthony - 0.9842
Mutumbo - 0.9691
Mourning - 0.9310
Lowry - 0.8574
Mullin - 0.4492 (yikes)
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
He was on mostly mediocre to adequate teams, as I said.

That was also a historic playoff run. Then he averaged 36ppg in the finals against that great Lakers team. This is a silly argument.
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No, it isn't. All he has is that one playoff run. The mediocre teams were a self-fulfilling prophecy. A team with him is only going go so far. Like Harden. Look how bad his career ended. People wanted to give him a chance, if he'd only play team ball. But he was physically unable to.
 
It has to be Ewing #1. He's an all-time great. Can't punish him for not winning a championship, he never really had a top-notch running mate and John Starks' horrible shooting night in game six in 94 cost him a championship, plus Ewing was a victim of the Jordan's dominance when it comes to championships.

Last time I checked Dwayne Wade never played in the Big East so we can stop that nonsense.
 
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