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Bediako situation, legal question

freescooter said:
I don’t think we ever got punished for Nate Miles . He got kicked out. Maybe indirectly because of APR or some such, but we did the right thing.
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Probation and loss of a scholarship for multiple years.

The point is that the Miles penalties were for recruiting violations, not because of using an ineligible player. If I recall correctly, Beau Archibald played the good soldier and took the fall for the program.
 
freescooter said:
You know what, though? Once you open the “pay the players” box, this was a perfectly logical result. What’s the difference whether a guy was paid to play for the Oklahoma City Thunder, Austin Spurs, the Bratislava Bulldogs or the University of Alabama? Seems like a distinction where there are no differences. You got paid to play basketball. If you are a regular student and you get a job at Google, it doesn’t prevent you from going back to school in computer science. And the pay the players folks were all about treating athletes like regular students. I think the only way around the problem is going back to the student athlete requirements. You need to be a full time student making legitimate progress toward your degree.
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The difference is that Bediako declared for the NBA draft, completed the draft process, and chose not to return to school knowing he would forfeit future eligibility.
 
Hurleyman216 said:
The NCAA should impose some kind of penalty on Alabama just for attempting to pull this crap. I always thought highly of Nate Oates, but he dropped a few pegs in my eyes solely because of this. They should hit them with a fine or a postseason ban just to send a strong message
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I was done with this guy when one of his players murdered someone and he didn’t seem to care that Brandon Miller brought Darius Miles the murder weapon.
 
JVN said:
Statement from Charlie Baker

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Do these folks not have mirrors?

I love the feigned indignity and the professed love of the student first. The term student athlete was made up to avoid courts or congress from recognizing major college sports for exactly what they are.
 
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gioff2323 said:
Do these folks not have mirrors?

I love the feigned indignity and the professed love of the student first. The term student athlete was made up to avoid courts or congress from recognizing major college sports for exactly what they are.
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They are students. Do you think they shouldn't be students?

What's your solution?
 
ToolzieFan said:
The difference is that Bediako declared for the NBA draft, completed the draft process, and chose not to return to school knowing he would forfeit future eligibility.
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And he is different from a guy who played in the G League? Like the BYU guy? Look, a pro is a pro. Once you start paying players, the college kid argument seems pretty weak to me. Why does who writes his check matter any more?

I do get what you are saying but I think once they started paying players, it is pretty tough to argue a guy who had a cup of coffee in the NBA is any different from a guy who played in Europe or the G League. And you can leave college to get any other job, and come back a year or 2 later and pick up where you left off. Once you decide on basically open transfers because any other student can do it, and paying players and allowing plsyers who got paid all to join, selectively saying an NBA guy is not eligible to return but a GLeague or European league guy can makes no sense.
 
superjohn said:
They are students. Do you think they shouldn't be students?

What's your solution?
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Really? Which classes did the young bama gentleman enrolled in and is he still matriculating despite this setback?
 
gioff2323 said:
Really? Which classes did the young bama gentleman enrolled in and is he still matriculating despite this setback?
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I have no idea.

I don't know what classes Braylon Mullins or any of our other players are enrolled in.

You didn't answer my questions.
 
You do understand that the term was created by the NCAA in the 1950s to counter any claim that college athletes were employees. It was not created to identify them as both student and athlete, but simply to avoid liability.
 
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Are we still arguing if the guy who chose to forego his college eligibility 3 years ago should have college eligibility?
 
freescooter said:
That was recruiting violations. Ok. I was thinking of the other incidents Nate was involved in. That guy was the gift that kept on giving.
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Oh you're talking about the restraining order with that woman? I'm not sure what you're alluding to since I thought we were talking about eligibility.
 
It would be ironic if Alabama didn't make the NCAA Tournament because they take 3 wins away from them.

 
HooperScooper said:
Oh you're talking about the restraining order with that woman? I'm not sure what you're alluding to since I thought we were talking about eligibility.
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Yes. My original response was to a comment that we were penalized for Nate Miles. I thought of the restraining order violation and alleged assault and thought that was what was being referenced.
 
HooperScooper said:
Oh you're talking about the restraining order with that woman? I'm not sure what you're alluding to since I thought we were talking about eligibility.
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I think that restraining order was rubbish. Miles didn’t deserve the crap he took.
 
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I don’t know about that but it isn’t that easy to get a restraining order. And if somebody gets one against you it isn’t a great idea to ignore it. It was always my feeling that he should have gone to prep school somewhere and grown up before coming to UConn. Bridgeton Academy would have done him good.
 
What may have been the most ridiculous item in the Miles saga was that immediately upon being served with the restraining order he called the young lady who requested the order, yelling at her in a threatening manner, which was a violation of the order.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
What may have been the most ridiculous item in the Miles saga was that immediately upon being served with the restraining order he called the young lady who requested the order, yelling at her in a threatening manner, which was a violation of the order.
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My recollection is that he called her to ask why she got a restraining order in a conciliatory/apologetic manner. That said, I have no firsthand knowledge, obviously. How sure are you of your facts FCF?
 
In either case it is NOT ok to call the woman in question. Threatening is worse but any contact is a violation of a court order. I think in hindsight that he was immature and didn’t belong on a college campus yet.
 
CL82 said:
My recollection is that he called her to ask why she got a restraining order in a conciliatory/apologetic manner. That said, I have no firsthand knowledge, obviously. How sure are you of your facts FCF?
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From what I remember reading (this was around 2008-2009) he immediately called her to ask why, but was not conciliatory/apologetic, but rather angry and abusive.

I'm pretty sure that this led to the police briefly bringing him in and the school suspending and later dismissing him.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
What may have been the most ridiculous item in the Miles saga was that immediately upon being served with the restraining order he called the young lady who requested the order, yelling at her in a threatening manner, which was a violation of the order.
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Is this a fact you know for sure? I heard her parents requested the order because reasons and he called to say WTF? Busted. I know a guy, nicest guy in the world and this happened to him. TRO came out of the blue, he called and asked what's up and he got arrested. It was a plot.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
From what I remember reading (this was around 2008-2009) he immediately called her to ask why, but was not conciliatory/apologetic, but rather angry and abusive.

I'm pretty sure that this led to the police briefly bringing him in and the school suspending and later dismissing him.
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O.K. can we stop this discussion? Who cares at this point and nobody seems to remember exactly what happened anyway. Plus Miles has nothing to do with the original premise of this discussion about eligibility. He got kicked off campus by the school for violating a restraining order. Not sure how that's in any way related to athletic eligibility like Boatright and Butler.
 
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