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Yup^ and unlb malost beat b20 team
 
Will take a lot of years of consistent winning before anyone takes a 'directional' school seriously in major college FB.
 
observer said:
Will take a lot of years of consistent winning before anyone takes a 'directional' school seriously in major college FB.
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duh. It takes a lot of years of consistent winning before anyone takes any school seriously in major college FB.
 
observer said:
Will take a lot of years of consistent winning before anyone takes a 'directional' school seriously in major college FB.
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It will take a lot of years of consistent winning before anyone takes Duke, Maryland, BCU, Wake Forest, Virginia or all but one or two current (and future) ACC schools seriously in major college football.
 
UConnDan97 said:
1) You can't very well bring an argument that BYU is better than Boise because of fanbase size, and then not bring that into the argument of UCF versus Memphis!

2) That national championship that you are talking about was in 1984, the same year as the movie "Sixteen Candles" and two years before the Shuttle Challenger exploded. Then you must be ecstatic that we have also grabbed SMU, the national champions of 1981 and 1982! They should be viewed as twice as good as BYU!!

L.
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National champs in 81 and 82? That would be quite a surprise to Clemson and Penn State.
 
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CAHUSKY said:
National champs in 81 and 82? That would be quite a surprise to Clemson and Penn State.
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It's actually not shocking at all to Penn State or Clemson:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMU_Mustangs_football#National_championships

Back then, they had systems that were even worse than the BCS, if you can believe it. They had multiple systems that would vote the national champions. In fact, in 82, the Helms system voted SMU and Penn State co-champions. The AP poll and Coaches' poll both had Clemson and Penn State for '81 and '82 respectively, although there were many years where they did not agree as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colleg...poll_championships_.281936.E2.80.93present.29

This was all evidence that a playoff system was absolutely necessary, even 30 years ago. However, money wins, not sensibility.

I hope that was good enough for you...
 
Watching the NBE teams this weekend, I think going to 16 is a really good idea, and BYU is absolutely table stakes. Nevada would be perfect if Ault was 10 years younger, but he doesn't have much time at the helm. The most attractive addition from a market perspective would be UNLV, but they suck. Maybe Fresno or CSU?
 
gars44 said:
duh. It takes a lot of years of consistent winning before anyone takes any school seriously in major college FB.
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Well, take "a lot of years" and add "a lot more" for any directional state u.

Maybe we should add U ofPhoenix online. They have a big "virtual" fan base.
 
Going to 14 makes sense. To 16 only makes sense if, and it's a big if, the two teams can bring enough revenue to the BE to offset their addition. Otherwise the presidents will never vote to expand to 16. I believe the BE should go to 14. See how things go and hopefully the conf. exceeds all expectations both in revenue and on the field. Then maybe they could expand to 16 with some bigger named schools. Why settle now with UNLV, Fresno or Nevada. they really add very little value.
 
mcs333 said:
Going to 14 makes sense. To 16 only makes sense if, and it's a big if, the two teams can bring enough revenue to the BE to offset their addition. Otherwise the presidents will never vote to expand to 16. I believe the BE should go to 14. See how things go and hopefully the conf. exceeds all expectations both in revenue and on the field. Then maybe they could expand to 16 with some bigger named schools. Why settle now with UNLV, Fresno or Nevada. they really add very little value.
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One of those would be 16... and BYU will be 14 and 15...
Both of those schools will add to the contract...
 
Marty Jackson said:
One of those would be 16... and BYU will be 14 and 15...
Both of those schools will add to the contract...
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This is true, but mcs makes a good point. Team #16 CANNOT BE a team like Fresno or Nevada, in my humble opinion. They don't add a lot to the revenue of the league, and more importantly, they don't add to the image of the league. We have plenty of "middle-of-the-road" teams. BYU adds a lot, no doubt about it. will add less prestige but a large national following and a natural rival to Navy.

If I can dream a little, team #16 would have to be a raid of one team from a BCS league; a team that is relatively unhappy with their current situation and who is in a contract similar to ours (that means that we need ACC-like money, and the team would likely come from the ACC only). Outside of that eventuality, 14 with BYU makes more sense than 16 with BYU, , and Fresno...
 
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HuskyfanDan said:
Yup^ and unlb malost beat b20 team
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MTHusky said:
Translation please
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MTHusky said:
Translation please
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The carrot ^ was pointing to metsfan's previous post which mentioned Nevada beating cal. The rest translates to "UNLV almost beat a Big Ten team" referencing their 27-30 loss to Minnesota.

I cna tarnstlate drnk tkal prrty goo smetimess i post aafterhavvin afew breers....
 
huskymedic said:
No ownership - pilfer away.
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Not for me, though. Greg Lloyd knocking the Touchdown Jesus out of a ND running back is going to be mine for quite some time...;)
 
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UConnDan97 said:
Not for me, though. Greg Lloyd knocking the Touchdown Jesus out of a ND running back is going to be mine for quite some time...;)
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As it should be.
 
UConnDan97 said:
This is true, but mcs makes a good point. Team #16 CANNOT BE a team like Fresno or Nevada, in my humble opinion. They don't add a lot to the revenue of the league, and more importantly, they don't add to the image of the league. We have plenty of "middle-of-the-road" teams. BYU adds a lot, no doubt about it. will add less prestige but a large national following and a natural rival to Navy.

If I can dream a little, team #16 would have to be a raid of one team from a BCS league; a team that is relatively unhappy with their current situation and who is in a contract similar to ours (that means that we need ACC-like money, and the team would likely come from the ACC only). Outside of that eventuality, 14 with BYU makes more sense than 16 with BYU, , and Fresno...
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You need to have forward vision in determining the next member(s)... and BYU are no brainers if interested. Nevada, UNLV, or Fresno open up markets for #16...

If we were to get an acc school it wouldn't be a lone wolf. The only way we wouldn't take and BYU is if three of the following were available: FSU, GT, VT, Clemson, or NC State... If Pitt, BC, and Syr wanted back I hope we would tell them to wait a minute, and then announce , BYU, and Fresno...
 
Marty Jackson said:
You need to have forward vision in determining the next member(s)... and BYU are no brainers if interested. Nevada, UNLV, or Fresno open up markets for #16...

If we were to get an acc school it wouldn't be a lone wolf. The only way we wouldn't take and BYU is if three of the following were available: FSU, GT, VT, Clemson, or NC State... If Pitt, BC, and Syr wanted back I hope we would tell them to wait a minute, and then announce , BYU, and Fresno...
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Hard to see an ACC team departing for the NBE, unless they got extra money. and BYU would be huge gets. Of the others Fresno is impoverished and the economy is collapsing; Reno is a tiny, tiny market. UNLV has potential, but the program has a long way to go. UT-San Antonio would be just as good, it's in a bigger media market (http://www.arbitron.com/home/mm001050.asp). I would try to stay at 15 for a bit and see who emerges. You never know, with Navy and in maybe Army would consider it.
 
pj said:
Hard to see an ACC team departing for the NBE, unless they got extra money. and BYU would be huge gets. Of the others Fresno is impoverished and the economy is collapsing; Reno is a tiny, tiny market. UNLV has potential, but the program has a long way to go. UT-San Antonio would be just as good, it's in a bigger media market (http://www.arbitron.com/home/mm001050.asp). I would try to stay at 15 for a bit and see who emerges. You never know, with Navy and in maybe Army would consider it.
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I agree with most of what you said, with the exception of UTSA. I don't know if UTSA would ever be more than perhaps the 7th best team in Texas, let alone a BCS type program. I agree 100% with what you've said about Fresno, Reno, and UNLV, though.

I think that BYU and would be great pickups, especially BYU. The question really is; if we get BYU and , how do we go to 16 and have it make sense? I don't think that Army makes sense, because they are just so daggone bad (insert Memphis joke here _____). Although they would have a large following and would be in the northeast, I see them more as a detractor than a positive addition...
 
Can we please stop with Fresno? The school has horrible budget issues and the city is about to go completely broke. They literally have no idea how they can continue to pay for police and fire - who is going to live there to support the program?

If Prop 30 doesn't pass forget Fresno State - not just for football - just forget them.
 
UConnDan97 said:
I agree with most of what you said, with the exception of UTSA. I don't know if UTSA would ever be more than perhaps the 7th best team in Texas, let alone a BCS type program. I agree 100% with what you've said about Fresno, Reno, and UNLV, though.

I think that BYU and would be great pickups, especially BYU. The question really is; if we get BYU and , how do we go to 16 and have it make sense? I don't think that Army makes sense, because they are just so daggone bad (insert Memphis joke here _____). Although they would have a large following and would be in the northeast, I see them more as a detractor than a positive addition...
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Size of following / TV audience >> quality of football.

The other question is: If we get BYU and , can we drop Memphis for 14 teams?
 
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pj said:
Size of following / TV audience >> quality of football.

The other question is: If we get BYU and , can we drop Memphis for 14 teams?
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I understand that San Antonio is a large market, but they suffer from the "Memphis disease." It's a disease characterized by the fact that most of the people in your city wear a college jersey and hat that are not your school colors (find me someone in that city who isn't a Texas fan), AND they are no good at football. The same thing goes for Memphis, where most people wear orange.

At least with Houston and SMU, they have fans that have been loyal to those football teams for a few generations. It is reasonable to think that they could take back a meaningful portion of their respective tv markets during really good years. It's not reasonable to assume that of UTSA.

And if we could find a way to trade Memphis, I think Aresco might have already done it...
 
Had to go back to my old porky with wings avatar.

Teams are going to leave the ACC for the NBE!!!!

ROTFLMAO.

The ACC, which has not last ANY teams in over 40 years, now is suddenly going to lose teams to the NBE??? You know, the BE that gets raided for teams every few years. That BE? Yup, definitely a 'destination' conference.

Send me some of what you all are smoking.
 
UConnDan97 said:
And if we could find a way to trade Memphis, I think Aresco might have already done it...
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Send them a fake letter from Delany offering them a B1G spot, conditioned upon their immediate resignation from the BE. Hey, it's worth a shot.
 
SC left ACC 40 years ago because of FB. If I were Clemson and/or FSU, I'd certainly consider it if I could get a deal. ACC has real collection of football duds--Duke, WF (this year for sure, anyway), Maryland, BCU, incoming SU and Pitt. UVA, NCS, GT, UNC (academic 5 star athletes), Miami are so so. That leaves FSU and choke a lot VT and Clemson. Believe me, FSU wants to go and Clemson and maybe VT would leave, too, with an offer. Would I mind UConn in the ACC? No, but the conference isn't God's gift to football and it's not very good either.
 
I don't know if it's foreshadowing or not, but I was just in Best Buy, and on one of the big TV's where the XBox was set up for customers to sample games, UConn was playing UNLV (at UNLV). We were up 7-0 w/ the ball early 2nd qrtr.

It may mean nothing. It may mean something. Just sayin' it could be a sign.

I was going to change it to UConn hosting Ohio St on my way out, but people were using it (so its my fault if we don't get into the B1G).
 
SAMCRO said:
I don't know if it's foreshadowing or not, but I was just in Best Buy, and on one of the big TV's where the XBox was set up for customers to sample games, UConn was playing UNLV (at UNLV). We were up 7-0 w/ the ball early 2nd qrtr.

It may mean nothing. It may mean something. Just sayin' it could be a sign.

I was going to change it to UConn hosting Ohio St on my way out, but people were using it (so its my fault if we don't get into the B1G).
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Only one living soul knows the answer to questions like these...

That soul is...Conspiracy Kitty.
 
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