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Baylor brings back 2023 Draft pick

Waquoit said:
What does Charlie Baker do with his time?
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I thought of your post as I was reading this Boston Globe article that is in the paper today. Columnist Dan Shaughnessy spoke to Baker about the issues facing the NCAA. Figured I'd post it if anyone is very interested in this stuff.

What about NIL?

“In my first year the only people who were allowed to talk to student-athletes about money was everybody but the school,” said Baker. “That’s not good because the school is more likely to have a different point of view than the agents and the collectives. For me, making it possible for the schools to participate in an NIL program so at least they could talk to kids and maybe create a relationship, might help kids stick around. We’re still early in the process.”

www.bostonglobe.com

NIL. Congress. Eligibility. Is the college sports system broken? - The Boston Globe

NCAA president Charlie Baker and former Northeastern AD Peter Roby offer their views. I told Charlie I wouldn't take his job for all the money in the world.
www.bostonglobe.com www.bostonglobe.com

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NIL. Congress. Eligibility. Is the college sports system broken?​

 
I know Hurley doesn’t like it, but as soon as this off season, we should be ready to recruit players back to college who are floundering around in the G league. We’re one of the programs with enough money to attract that talent.
 
Huskyforlife said:
I know Hurley doesn’t like it, but as soon as this off season, we should be ready to recruit players back to college who are floundering around in the G league. We’re one of the programs with enough money to attract that talent.
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With Tarris graduating we need to get the money together to bring back Clingan.
 
Huskyforlife said:
I know Hurley doesn’t like it, but as soon as this off season, we should be ready to recruit players back to college who are floundering around in the G league. We’re one of the programs with enough money to attract that talent.
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we'll see how they pan out as more continue to come back to college but the first wave of these guys stink. For what they're being paid I'm sure you could probably find cheaper at the college level to give you the same production.
 
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superjohn said:
With Tarris graduating we need to get the money together to bring back Clingan.
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In all seriousness, is there an official rule (or at least a rule the NCAA would challenge) that prohibits a player who has played in the NBA from joining a college team? The line between G-League and NBA seems arbitrary at this point and declaring for the draft apparently doesn't impact your eligibility
 
UCFan1513 said:
In all seriousness, is there an official rule (or at least a rule the NCAA would challenge) that prohibits a player who has played in the NBA from joining a college team? The line between G-League and NBA seems arbitrary at this point and declaring for the draft apparently doesn't impact your eligibility
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There's a rule against guys who were in college who then stayed in the NBA draft, which he violates.

The NCAA is expected to win. It was surprising that the judge granted this initial 10 day restraining order.

Seems like he'll get to play a game, though.
 
This is so dumb. I don’t even get why it’s changed … the ncaa just has zero power now?
 
First thing I did was pull up our alum playing in the G-League to see who we could call. Don't think we have anyone with eligibility left who left for the G-League
 
Mr. French said:
This is so dumb. I don’t even get why it’s changed … the ncaa just has zero power now?
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The NCAA were forced to agree to allow guys to get paid tangentially related to playing their sport, and then they were forced to double down on it by allowing schools to pay the kids directly. Once people are getting paid, you have a lot less power to restrict them from earning a living if you are seen as having significant power in the marketplace niche.

Transfer restrictions and eligibility requirements are now under fairly strict anti-trust law.

The NCAA has some power to do things, but the players, teams, and agents are now the velociraptors in Jurassic Park, testing the electric fences to see where the extent of the power lies.
 
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navery12 said:
First thing I did was pull up our alum playing in the G-League to see who we could call. Don't think we have anyone with eligibility left who left for the G-League
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We have a lot of guys, we could pay Bouknight more than he's currently making but I really want to bring back Clingan and Castle.
 
navery12 said:


We're living in the wild west
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This is why the Tom Izzo comments were all performative imo. The NCAA is trying to maintain eligibility rules, it's the schools and coaches who are pushing the envelope and taking everything to court to get a favorable ruling. If Izzo had a problem with g Leaguers getting eligibility, take it up with his colleagues who are the ones pushing to get them eligible.
 
I agree that all this is not great for the sport we all care about, but it's also kind of fascinating to watch from an outsider's perspective. The NCAA has been making all these arcane rules for decades, and they're finally having to face the question -- "Says who?"
 
aceboon said:
we'll see how they pan out as more continue to come back to college but the first wave of these guys stink. For what they're being paid I'm sure you could probably find cheaper at the college level to give you the same production.
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They're not that good when compared to the NBA and G League players. But they are talented just to get to that level and how would these older players look against college players? My guess is they all would be very good in college.
 
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If the cutoff is "has not played games in the NBA," we could legitimately bring back DeAndre Daniels as our AK replacement next year

He's 32 but used to a professional schedule. Going back to 2 games a week should do wonders for the knees
 
Tyler2Rings said:
If the cutoff is "has not played games in the NBA," we could legitimately bring back DeAndre Daniels as our AK replacement next year

He's 32 but used to a professional schedule. Going back to 2 games a week should do wonders for the knees
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Daniel Hamilton may be able to work too. F it let’s get crazy
 
You still need to be within the 5 year period to play your 4 years ... so we can't bring back Ray Allen.

But this is all nonsense. It's so stupid.
 
HooperScooper said:
They're not that good when compared to the NBA and G League players. But they are talented just to get to that level and how would these older players look against college players? My guess is they all would be very good in college.
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I'm using the examples we have right now and these guys aren't good. I don't believe Naija played in the GLeague but did play in the NBA Summer League and he isn't doing much of anything for Baylor and they aren't winning games with him. Santa Clara signed Thierry Darlan from the GLeauge, I watched Santa Clara vs Gonzaga a couple of weeks ago and he was arguably the worst rotation player on the court. Louisville signed former GLeague player London Johnson with the plan to play the 2nd semester and he was performing so poorly in practice that the head coach decided to redshirt him. BYU signed GLeague player Abdullah Ahmed and he's just a warm body, you can find all these types from the HS ranks or Juco looking to move up. Here are their stats except Johnson since he hasn't played.

 
superjohn said:
We have a lot of guys, we could pay Bouknight more than he's currently making but I really want to bring back Clingan and Castle.
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All those guys have played NBA games, which so far is still a limiting factor
 
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Huskyforlife said:
I know Hurley doesn’t like it, but as soon as this off season, we should be ready to recruit players back to college who are floundering around in the G league. We’re one of the programs with enough money to attract that talent.
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No, we shouldn’t, there’s enough players out there with integrity we can get.
 
Mr. French said:
You still need to be within the 5 year period to play your 4 years ... so we can't bring back Ray Allen.

But this is all nonsense. It's so stupid.
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Then why does the Baylor guy get four full years at age 21?
 
UConnTrumbull said:
Then why does the Baylor guy get four full years at age 21?
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They basically baked in a redshirt year for him based on when he started his pro career. I think he'll have 4 years to play 4 instead of 5 to play 4. (But that rule will probably change within 4 years anyways).
 
I can't wait until the NCAA tries to enforce a deadline to withdraw from the upcoming NBA draft.

We've reached the point where a kid can get drafted, then decide whether to return to school or turn pro. This is something ewhat similar to a rule that had been in place for a few years until ~45 years ago.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I can't wait until the NCAA tries to enforce a deadline to withdraw from the upcoming NBA draft.

We've reached the point where a kid can get drafted, then decide whether to return to school or turn pro. This is something ewhat similar to a rule that had been in place for a few years until ~45 years ago.
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Will always wonder if Liam would have come back after the draft if allowed.
 
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