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ritarivas89 said:
I thought Baylor will have already played 4 teams in the top 25 by Christmas...
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You would be correct, just none in the top 10 until conference play begins and then we get a couple of looks at #5 Texas.
 
easttexastrash said:
Baylor is not going to beat UCONN this year, even if we played them 10 times before the tournament starts. No need to send the young girls to UCONN to be embarrassed and break their spirit. The alternative is to slowly build their confidence and gel as a team so that they "believe" when the tourney starts.
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Build their confidence by playing cup cake teams? Really? Then what happens to their confidence when they face the best of the best? Talk about shattered dreams.

I played the game thoroughly and my confidence never accelerated playing mediocre players (Once My Talent Increased).

My confidence shot through the roof once i saw on a consistent basis that i was able to hold my own agsinst A Grade talent better than me.

No matter how many times they beat me i kept coming back for more. They made me.

Never believed in running away from a good battle after that. Confidence is gain dramatically when you know you can dance with the best of the best. Yes it's true you have to start somewhere. But gee don't go backwards.
 
sarals24 said:
Have you seen Baylor's OOC schedules lately? As soon as Griner/Sims graduated she started playing absolute nobodies. I think if you're a top program you play the other top programs, regardless of who you have.
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I don't think you have to schedule every other top program every year, I don't think that's feasible. There are more programs in the women's game to choose from that are now committed to winning and building a program to last, so it doesn't always have to be Uconn that you play. I also don't KimM is afraid of playing anyone her teams have been very competitive with Uconn and when she has had the better team she has always beaten the Huskies.
I too am glad to see Baylor on the schedule I like her teams and the way they play, like Geno, Kim makes her teams play defense or else.
 
tony yusef said:
I don't think you have to schedule every other top program every year, I don't think that's feasible. There are more programs in the women's game to choose from that are now committed to winning and building a program to last, so it doesn't always have to be Uconn that you play. I also don't KimM is afraid of playing anyone her teams have been very competitive with Uconn and when she has had the better team she has always beaten the Huskies.
I too am glad to see Baylor on the schedule I like her teams and the way they play, like Geno, Kim makes her teams play defense or else.
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I disagree. And Baylor hasn't always beating the Huskies. They are 2-2 if i am correct. Uconn winning the first two meetings. However, and even those two losses Uconn had control of both of those games before squandering in the end.
 
tony yusef said:
I don't think you have to schedule every other top program every year, I don't think that's feasible. There are more programs in the women's game to choose from that are now committed to winning and building a program to last, so it doesn't always have to be Uconn that you play. I also don't KimM is afraid of playing anyone her teams have been very competitive with Uconn and when she has had the better team she has always beaten the Huskies.
I too am glad to see Baylor on the schedule I like her teams and the way they play, like Geno, Kim makes her teams play defense or else.
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Well, if what you want is a Baylor team that has a better shot at beating UCONN in the NCAA tourney, you will have to wait a year since Baylor has no chance this year due to the poor OOC schedule that only includes 4 top 25 teams.
 
tony yusef said:
I don't think you have to schedule every other top program every year, I don't think that's feasible. There are more programs in the women's game to choose from that are now committed to winning and building a program to last, so it doesn't always have to be Uconn that you play. I also don't KimM is afraid of playing anyone her teams have been very competitive with Uconn and when she has had the better team she has always beaten the Huskies.
I too am glad to see Baylor on the schedule I like her teams and the way they play, like Geno, Kim makes her teams play defense or else.
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No, but you have to admit that scheduling at least ONE of the perennial top programs (ND, UConn, SC, Tennessee, Stanford) would be preferable to another blowout against Grambling State at home. I just find it interesting that Kim schedules those programs when she has Griner/Sims but completely shies away from them if she is "rebuilding". If I were a top athlete at a place like Baylor I'd probably want to test myself against those teams every year. How does blowing out McNeese State prepare you for tournament play?
 
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tony yusef said:
I don't think you have to schedule every other top program every year, I don't think that's feasible. There are more programs in the women's game to choose from that are now committed to winning and building a program to last, so it doesn't always have to be Uconn that you play. I also don't KimM is afraid of playing anyone her teams have been very competitive with Uconn and when she has had the better team she has always beaten the Huskies.
I too am glad to see Baylor on the schedule I like her teams and the way they play, like Geno, Kim makes her teams play defense or else.
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Mulkey isn't afraid of any team and you can bet that if there were to be a meeting with UCONN, or SC, or ND, that the Baylor players are going to get after it and walk onto the court with the belief that they can win.
 
sarals24 said:
No, but you have to admit that scheduling at least ONE of the perennial top programs (ND, UConn, SC, Tennessee, Stanford) would be preferable to another blowout against Grambling State at home. I just find it interesting that Kim schedules those programs when she has Griner/Sims but completely shies away from them if she is "rebuilding". If I were a top athlete at a place like Baylor I'd probably want to test myself against those teams every year. How does blowing out McNeese State prepare you for tournament play?
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In BG's senior year Baylor played UCONN, Standford, Tennessee and ND. What did that get us?

In 2005, when Baylor won it's first title, they played one top 5 team when they lost to LSU in the first game of the season. That was the only top 25 team in the OOC schedule and the team was prepared to beat three number 1 seeds en route to a national championship.

I'm not saying that having a tough OOC schedule is not helpful. Just saying that it is not a requirement for performing well when the big dance rolls around.
 
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easttexastrash said:
In BG's senior year Baylor played UCONN, Standford, Tennessee and ND. What did that get us?

In 2005, when Baylor won it's first title, they played one top 5 team when they lost to LSU in the first game of the season. That was the only top 25 team in the OOC schedule and the team was prepared to beat three number 1 seeds en route to a national championship.

I'm not saying that having a tough OOC schedule is not helpful. Just saying that it is not a requirement for performing well when the big dance rolls around.
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True. Though the one tough OOC game they scheduled in 2004-2005 certainly helped them when they faced LSU for a second time that year in the F4.
 
easttexastrash said:
In BG's senior year Baylor played UCONN, Standford, Tennessee and ND. What did that get us?

In 2005, when Baylor won it's first title, they played one top 5 team when they lost to LSU in the first game of the season. That was the only top 25 team in the OOC schedule and the team was prepared to beat three number 1 seeds en route to a national championship.

I'm not saying that having a tough OOC schedule is not helpful. Just saying that it is not a requirement for performing well when the big dance rolls around.
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That is a fair statement. I would submit that ANY program that is serious about winning it all had better prime the pot with a few tournament caliber games during the season.
If you get use playing teams that are not as talented and athletic as you are (teams that don't challenge you), you're going to have a rude awakening come tournament time.
There are several teams that will be in the tournament that will jump out on you early, put you in a hole, and keep you there. Know what I mean? :eek: Once again I say.......iron sharpens iron!
 
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ladybears4eva said:
Kim doesn't like to lose. I don't blame her.

I think she doesn't want to be thumped by 20+, it can demoralize a team with high aspirations. Shes not in the lower tier of wcbb thinking that playing the top teams makes you better, even if its a loss by 40.

She wants her girls to have a chance to win, and build them up little by little.

It depends on her team really, if she she has the right leaders that aren't afraid of anything, like griner or sims were, she has the confidence.

We played you when we only had sims, it was not that bad of a game. 10 points?
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As much as I criticize Mulkey and Baylor for their "weak" cream puff OCC this season, I must agree with you. She's not doing what is PC. She's doing what she feels will give her team the best chance to win. You can't fault her for that.

Everyone knows Baylor will make the tournament. If you make the tournament, you can get hot and make your way to the elite 8 or even the final four.

All of the wanna-bees and also-rans have been sent home after the second weekend (round 4). The next two rounds are by far the hardest in the tournament (games 5 & 6).

Now you're getting close to the top of the mountain where the air is real thin, and any many teams can not breathe at that altitude, and fall by the wayside for lack of oxygen.

It will be very interesting to see who makes it to the final four this year. There are a lot of teams that at this point look like they're ready to make that climb. But as we know, things can change over a two month period. I think there are about 7-8 teams that have a legitimate chance of getting their ticket punched for a trip to Indianapolis.

The light will be too bright for most of them (to get to the FF). They'll have to try again next year. My picks for the "Elite 8" are UConn, Baylor, Notre Dame, Maryland, Texas, Oregon State, Dayton and South Carolina. Eight teams for four slots. All of them will be tough nut to crack up to that point.

Florida State and Kentucky have a puncher's chance of getting in if somebody slips up. Barring injury, I think these are the eight teams we'll see after the first round of the third weekend of the tournament.
 
Just some thoughts. Many teams didn't schedule UConn this season because they knew it had a chance of being a big blowout. They knew it would be a loss. Many top teams want to assure of a 1 and no less then a 2 seed. That's why many teams don't schedule a lot of the top 10 teams. Next season UConn has a very very tuff OCC schedule. I still believe UConn can go undefeated next season if their talent develops. Now with that said lets say UConn season is up and down and they lose 5-7 games and a team with an easier schedule gets a 1 or 2 seed over UConn. If that happens there will be a lot of angry fans. Just a note this happened in the past. Penn St comes to mind. Penn St ended up facing UConn and Diana put on a show blowing them out. UConn fans were angry. So I can understand and not necessarily agree with a softer schedule when your team is high octane.

Next season I hope Tuck stays and along with Nurse Chong and Williams UConn will have an upperclassman nucleus. A lot will depend on the development of our underclassman. All of a sudden Dangerfield and Irwin (at 6'2) will be called on a little more. In the second half of the season I think we will be seeing a lot more of our next years lineup playing together to get them ready for next season, like we did a few games ago when everybody was healthy.
 
nd2tty said:
True. Though the one tough OOC game they scheduled in 2004-2005 certainly helped them when they faced LSU for a second time that year in the F4.
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Did it help? Or was it just that the team got better as the season progressed? I think it could have added extra motivation, but does that mean that if Baylor were to beat SC in an OOC game that SC would have the extra motivation to beat Baylor if they meet again in the tourney. It can help you or bite you in the tail.
 
easttexastrash said:
Did it help? Or was it just that the team got better as the season progressed? I think it could have added extra motivation, but does that mean that if Baylor were to beat SC in an OOC game that SC would have the extra motivation to beat Baylor if they meet again in the tourney. It can help you or bite you in the tail.
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I think it helps both teams be better prepared. And I do think when you look at a game like the one Oregon State played against TN, they seemed completely unprepared for the pace of a game against good athletes - turnovers, not getting back on defense ... Had they played a few better teams prior to that game, they might have been better prepared in that game. I suspect their next practice after the loss, the coaches had their attention.
 
UcMiami said:
I think it helps both teams be better prepared. And I do think when you look at a game like the one Oregon State played against TN, they seemed completely unprepared for the pace of a game against good athletes - turnovers, not getting back on defense ... Had they played a few better teams prior to that game, they might have been better prepared in that game. I suspect their next practice after the loss, the coaches had their attention.
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Hopefully they store this in their memory bank for three months from now. I can barely remember what I had for dinner last night.
 
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With Baylor back on the schedule next season, Jim Fuller reports that UConn's non-conference schedule for next season is shaping up to look like this:

Home

South Carolina
Baylor
Texas
Ohio State
Depaul
Chattanooga

Away

Notre Dame
Maryland
Florida State
Kansas State
LSU
Nebraska

I don't care how weak the AAC is; that non-conference schedule is ridiculous. Jim Fuller reports that one additional opponent will be added, a perennial NCAA tournament team according to Jim. Recall that the AAC reduced the number of conference games from 18 to 16 starting next season so the non-conference schedule will include 13 games.

Geno's comments:

"There is a line from here to Chicago for people waiting to play us in non-conference games starting next year," Auriemma said with a laugh. "We understand that and I am sure we will take our lumps for a little bit. We played them all before we got Stewie so we might as well play them now."

"If we have one returning All-American next year or none, the schedule is going to be brutal and I think it should be. I think our home schedule should be the same way and the road schedule with the really young team that we are going to have is going to be really difficult. We are way past the stage of what our record is. What we are trying to accomplish is to get our team ready to win a national championship. What our record is going into the NCAA tournament is irrelevant, we are way past winning streaks. We have already been there, done that. Playing games that you God forbid might lose shouldn't be a don't do that. There are a lot of schools that schedule not to lose and that is not who we are."

 
That's a sick OOC schedule. 7 of the current top 10 teams and 8 if you count Depaul.
 
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ladybears4eva said:
Kim doesn't like to lose. I don't blame her.

I think she doesn't want to be thumped by 20+, it can demoralize a team with high aspirations. Shes not in the lower tier of wcbb thinking that playing the top teams makes you better, even if its a loss by 40.

She wants her girls to have a chance to win, and build them up little by little.

It depends on her team really, if she she has the right leaders that aren't afraid of anything, like griner or sims were, she has the confidence.

We played you when we only had sims, it was not that bad of a game. 10 points?
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Odyssey was prolific. I'm still surprised that Baylor did not win 2-3 Nat Championships with those two. I like Kim. And I thought it was classy that Geno got a standing ovation from 16k fans his first time out of the portal their. That was something. Geno doesn't necessarily go over well in the south! :)
 
Geno-ista said:
Odyssey was prolific. I'm still surprised that Baylor did not win 2-3 Nat Championships with those two. I like Kim. And I thought it was classy that Geno got a standing ovation from 16k fans his first time out of the portal their. That was something. Geno doesn't necessarily go over well in the south! :)
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Not only did Geno get a stand O, it lasted for a loooong time. I am not sure that I have ever seen the Baylor fans react like that. The fans knew that greatness was in the building and reacted accordingly. I was there and it was quite a moment.
 
Orangutan said:
Confirmation from Jim Fuller: http://elmcitytoeaglevillenhr.blogspot.com/2015/12/uconnbaylor-set-to-renew-series.html

"Next year's non-conference schedule has a chance to be one of the toughest the Huskies have ever played as contracts have been signed for the return games with Ohio State, Florida State, Maryland, LSU, DePaul, Chattanooga, Nebraska, Kansas State. UConn will play Texas at Mohegan Sun Arena and UConn is expected to renew home and home series with South Carolina and Notre Dame."

Good to see the South Carolina and Notre Dame series will continue.
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Yikes, that's going to be a hell of a non-con schedule next year.. Lots of tough teams with Ohio State, FSU, Maryland, South Carolina and Notre Dame likely being better than they are this year.

Hopefully the UCONN/SC series is renewed.
 
sarals24 said:
No, but you have to admit that scheduling at least ONE of the perennial top programs (ND, UConn, SC, Tennessee, Stanford) would be preferable to another blowout against Grambling State at home. I just find it interesting that Kim schedules those programs when she has Griner/Sims but completely shies away from them if she is "rebuilding". If I were a top athlete at a place like Baylor I'd probably want to test myself against those teams every year. How does blowing out McNeese State prepare you for tournament play?
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What program can you not say this about? You can nitpick everyone's schedule if you like, in the women's game I don't think it matters much. Kim M knows she has a team that in most years can make noise come March. I also think she knows her team better than we do.
 
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