Bad blood between team and Neptune?

[ThabeetDown]

I didn’t even see the Hawk play until I got home from the game. At the game I was calling Neptune soft immediately from the Jack T. I wish I saw the Hawk play because I would have been insufferable.

Terrible first impression of Neptune as a coach. Everyone rags on Hurley’s antics (and up until this year, rightfully so) but I have zero respect for Neptune. Can’t beat ‘em on the court, so try to get them T’d up as much as possible. Pathetic. Go back to Fordham ya bum.

 

[ThabeetDown]

Or if you have that much confidence give them "the stare" like Tyrese Martin. I used to love that!

That would immediately get T’d up nowadays sadly haha

 

[dennismenace]

Whitmore has been great in 2 of the 6 games he has played. In the last 3 games he has scored 7, 8, and 6 points. Far from dominant, but clearly has a bright future.

He looks to have all the physical tools. He is intense. He ran into a tough defense last night. He was visibly upset (with himself I think) after on the bench. Unfortunately for us and the rest of the conference he is probably going to be a real pain in the future. He looks like he has the potential to be on one of those " all time worthy opponents" lists in the future. I think you are very right about the bright future.

 

[MDHuskFan]

Some of these “taunting Techs” are pretty soft IMO. It’s just playing ball. There’s a difference between saying something after a play within the flow of the game & stopping the flow of the game to showboat.

If they’re going to T up players for stuff like this, they also need to monitor the amount of chirping that comes from the benches. (Again, they shouldn’t T either imo, but have to be at least consistent)

 

[dennismenace]

I didn’t even see the Hawk play until I got home from the game. At the game I was calling Neptune soft immediately from the Jack T. I wish I saw the Hawk play because I would have been insufferable.

Terrible first impression of Neptune as a coach. Everyone rags on Hurley’s antics (and up until this year, rightfully so) but I have zero respect for Neptune. Can’t beat ‘em on the court, so try to get them T’d up as much as possible. Pathetic. Go back to Fordham ya bum.

LOL. I will remember this quote whenever I see him coaching.

 

[husky429]

Imagine being desperate enough as a coach you’re trying to influence T’s against the other team. I see a very Ollie like path for Nova over next few years bc he seems lost as a coach. Use your final TO with 8 minutes to go in the game, that’s baffling.

Really hope not. We need Nova to be good for this conference to thrive.

 

[REB1094]

Some of these “taunting Techs” are pretty soft IMO. It’s just playing ball. There’s a difference between saying something after a play within the flow of the game & stopping the flow of the game to showboat.

If they’re going to T up players for stuff like this, they also need to monitor the amount of chirping that comes from the benches. (Again, they shouldn’t T either imo, but have to be at least consistent)

If I was a BE coach, I would be "reminding" the refs every single game that Hurley is going to yell and scream and Hawkins/Jackson are going to bark all game

Gets an extra set of eyes on them, I do think we have a bad reputation with officials because of Hurley's antics last year + the whole Bouknight ejection incident

 

[husky429]

He looks to have all the physical tools. He is intense. He ran into a tough defense last night. He was visibly upset (with himself I think) after on the bench. Unfortunately for us and the rest of the conference he is probably going to be a real pain in the future. He looks like he has the potential to be on one of those " all time worthy opponents" lists in the future. I think you are very right about the bright future.

We're only playing 2 more games against him tops. Not sure that can count as an "all time opponent"... he's league bound.

 

[QDOG5]

I would like AJax to stop chirping by the opposing teams bench. There is obviously a mandate given to the refs to call a T anytime a player barks in front of the opposing bench. I've seen it in a number of games this year. Andre has received that type of T twice recently and other teams are going to continue to harass him when he is in front of their bench. My biggest problem is that The T is a personal foul and there may be a game where he is in foul trouble. I'd hate for him to lose playing time because of foul trouble caused by a technical.

 

[Icehawk]

I'm all for some chirping, it's part of the dang game man - BUT you also need to keep your cool and not do it when you are literally in physical contact with a ref. Fine line. In some ways I'd rather Andre get it out now than when it might cost us.

As QDOG5 said above it does seem like they are calling them quick and easy this year across the league.

 

[BGesus4]

Jackson’s intensity is just next level. I mean he had to be pulled off that held ball with slater like a pit bull with a break stick. We get way more benefits from his intensity than we do costs.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Imagine being desperate enough as a coach you’re trying to influence T’s against the other team. I see a very Ollie like path for Nova over next few years bc he seems lost as a coach. Use your final TO with 8 minutes to go in the game, that’s baffling.

As others said, he used the TO's to stem any momentum UConn was gaining. And it worked. Unfortunately that strategy means you don’t have any left at end of game. It was a valid strategy and it worked for its purpose.

 

[M.S.G.]

Neptune in his fancy ass suit did not make any friends in the program or in the arena last night.. I think this is a great rivalry to have, keep fueling it

 

[Excalibur]

As others said, he used the TO's to stem any momentum UConn was gaining. And it worked. Unfortunately that strategy means you don’t have any left at end of game. It was a valid strategy and it worked for its purpose.

He used the last time out after a made three by his own team. That is supreme incompetence.

 

[M.S.G.]

He used the last time out after a made three by his own team. That is supreme incompetence.

As a coach, I love taking TOs after my own made baskets - it's all about viewing the run as a living breathing entitity - but your last one? Yikes.

 

[MDHuskFan]

If I was a BE coach, I would be "reminding" the refs every single game that Hurley is going to yell and scream and Hawkins/Jackson are going to bark all game

Gets an extra set of eyes on them, I do think we have a bad reputation with officials because of Hurley's antics last year + the whole Bouknight ejection incident

I can see it a little bit. I will say though, outside the taunting techs, the team (especially Adama & Dre) seem to have a lot of real respectful interactions with officials after fouls and such, getting explanations. I’ve seen it in person & on TV. (May have got Adama a little latitude for that ball spike after his second during the FT’s)

 

[Get a Job]

I can see it a little bit. I will say though, outside the taunting techs, the team (especially Adama & Dre) seem to have a lot of real respectful interactions with officials after fouls and such, getting explanations. I’ve seen it in person & on TV. (May have got Adama a little latitude for that ball spike after his second during the FT’s)

Are you sure he spiked the ball? I have never seen a player spike the ball that close to a ref and not get a T. My wife and I were sitting fairly close, but I didn't actually see the spike happen. All I saw was the ball bounce really high and Sanogo walking away. My wife said that the ref was the one who bounced the ball. That didn't make any sense to me, but later she pointed out the ref bouncing the ball pretty forcefully between free throws. He was catching it on the way up, but perhaps he missed it for some reason in the Sanogo incident.

 

[Huskybass]

As others said, he used the TO's to stem any momentum UConn was gaining. And it worked. Unfortunately that strategy means you don’t have any left at end of game. It was a valid strategy and it worked for its purpose.

To use your last timeout with 8 minutes remaining in a Big East road game makes for an uphill battle in the closing minutes. I think Neptune is actually a pretty good coach overall, but I bet he wishes he handled that scenario differently. Frankly, I was shocked that they were out of timeouts that early.

 

[Platt81]

As others said, he used the TO's to stem any momentum UConn was gaining. And it worked. Unfortunately that strategy means you don’t have any left at end of game. It was a valid strategy and it worked for its purpose.

He called one after a whopping 4-0 run, then called another when the lead went from 7 to 9 over a three and a half minute span. Plus the one after their own made three. None were to stop huge runs, so in my eyes not valid at all. It’s rookie coaching, if your team can’t fight through a 4-0 run you haven’t coached them up well enough.

 

[ibleedhuskyblue]

I've seen it a couple more times now...

Andre was definitely talking to the bench behind Neptune. The coach just happened to be there when he turned around to start talking.

FWIW, that player/bench talk happens all the time in every game. Maybe what he said crossed some sort of line, but chirping the opposing bench is not abnormal.

Still, he has to be careful going forward. Maybe just a Tyrese Martin stare is the way to go going forward. Then again, if we keep winning, he can get a tech every game for all i care.

 

[Get a Job]

I've seen it a couple more times now...

Andre was definitely talking to the bench behind Neptune. The coach just happened to be there when he turned around to start talking.

FWIW, that player/bench talk happens all the time in every game. Maybe what he said crossed some sort of line, but chirping the opposing bench is not abnormal.

I don't know where he got it from, but my friend said that Neptune was saying, "He's not a shooter!" to his defense. Andre then purportedly hit the 3, turned around, and said, "And you're not Jay Wright!"

Maybe it's just funny fan fiction that got past along as a factual report. Either way, the idea is hilarious.

 

[navery12]

He used the last time out after a made three by his own team. That is supreme incompetence.

The last timeout came after Diarra hit a floater to extend the lead to 8 and they couldn't inbound the ball against our press

 

[REB1094]

He called one after a whopping 4-0 run, then called another when the lead went from 7 to 9 over a three and a half minute span. Plus the one after their own made three. None were to stop huge runs, so in my eyes not valid at all. It’s rookie coaching, if your team can’t fight through a 4-0 run you haven’t coached them up well enough.

To use your last timeout with 8 minutes remaining in a Big East road game makes for an uphill battle in the closing minutes. I think Neptune is actually a pretty good coach overall, but I bet he wishes he handled that scenario differently. Frankly, I was shocked that they were out of timeouts that early.

He was trying to go offense/defense with Daniels after he picked up his 4th foul, but did it way too early and lost all his TOs. Didn't fully burn him since it was a 1 possession game with a few minutes to go, but it definitely started making Villanova pick up their pace a little.

 

[CL82]

It looked like AJ thought either Neptune was on the court or too close to the court (technically Neptune shouldn’t be standing there but every coach does that especially Hurley

For what it’s worth an opposing teams, coach used to step out on the court, typically when a break was happening on for my kids team. Maybe it was enthusiasm, maybe it was an attempt to narrow the lane and but it happened routinely. My kid just drove right into him and then fell over and picked up the technical on him. Afterwards I confirmed suspicion that it was deliberate. “If he wants to give me two free throws in the ball, why wouldn’t I take that.”

 

[navery12]

Are you sure he spiked the ball? I have never seen a player spike the ball that close to a ref and not get a T. My wife and I were sitting fairly close, but I didn't actually see the spike happen. All I saw was the ball bounce really high and Sanogo walking away. My wife said that the ref was the one who bounced the ball. That didn't make any sense to me, but later she pointed out the ref bouncing the ball pretty forcefully between free throws. He was catching it on the way up, but perhaps he missed it for some reason in the Sanogo incident.

Was absolutely a spike from Sanogo, no idea how he didn't get T'd up which would have been his 3rd foul with 8 minutes left in the 1st half

 

[Husky25]

Umm, love the guy but he got a t for the exact same reason last week.

Wait, wasn't the T vs. Georgetown because Bouknight was ejected from stands vs. Xavier last season?

 

[Get a Job]

Was absolutely a spike from Sanogo, no idea how he didn't get T'd up which would have been his 3rd foul with 8 minutes left in the 1st half


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That's wild that he didn't get whistled. Maybe the ref was too stunned to react.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

I don't know where he got it from, but my friend said that Neptune was saying, "He's not a shooter!" to his defense. Andre then purportedly hit the 3, turned around, and said, "And you're not Jay Wright!"

Maybe it's just funny fan fiction that got past along as a factual report. Either way, the idea is hilarious.

I like this take the best. All else will sort itself out.

I thought that Neptune did his best to keep it a game, and he did get the final margin down under 10 for the first time this year.

The shots kept getting harder for Nova, and Newton's late free throws were confidence-building.

Between mounting fouls, lack of timeouts, and a deeper opponent, the Wildcats could've lost by 20 if the game went another 5-10 minutes. It was a game effort by an outmanned team.

1-0 in a stretch of 5 challenges...one game at a time.

 

[bigknight3]

Maybe you shouldn't post anything under those circumstances

Yeah, where's the fun in that?? And me missing a spelling joke pails in comparison to some of the bad takes posted recently.

 

[CL82]

I don't know where he got it from, but my friend said that Neptune was saying, "He's not a shooter!" to his defense. Andre then purportedly hit the 3, turned around, and said, "And you're not Jay Wright!"

Maybe it's just funny fan fiction that got past along as a factual report. Either way, the idea is hilarious.

I want this to be true more than I can say.