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B1G TV Negotiations

NYUConn said:
Watching Whaler and Upstater debate the # of - and what constitutes - sports bars in Buffalo is the Lincoln-Douglas showdown of our generation.
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Hey, he does this stuff all the time. Did everyone not read my original post that specifically mentioned that there are a ton of restaurants and bars in Buffalo with TVs tuned to ESPN? Then I mentioned the sports bar (I was thinking of 716). Wouldn't that naturally signal to everyone that I was making a distinction between sports bars and other bars? But no--he spends his time going off to list all the restaurants and bars he can.
 
upstater said:
LOL, man, Bada Bing is not a sports bar. The really funny thing about this is I posted an article from the local news where the writer says, THERE ARE A DEARTH OF SPORTS BARS IN BUFFALO. And you started wasting your time by combing through Google and came up with two bars that closed years ago, one which isn't a sports bar, and a couple of others that aren't even in Buffalo. Hilarious stuff. I still want you to find one, just one. Because then I can say, you found one. Good for you. And at the end of the day, my statement about the lack of sports bars in Buffalo still stands.

Here's an example, this is Pandora's: https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x89d312aa87e30dd9:0x4a092c46fb6bd79e!2m5!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i100!3m1!7e115!4s/maps/place/pandora's+sports+bar+%26+restaurant/@42.9354519,-78.8392335,3a,75y,83.35h,90t/data=*213m4*211e1*213m2*211sXBLrIdwNvKiLfj3RbOJ1_g*212e0*214m2*213m1*211s0x0:0x4a092c46fb6bd79e!5spandora's+sports+bar+&+restaurant+-+Google+Search&imagekey=!1e2!2sXBLrIdwNvKiLfj3RbOJ1_g&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjWhIKR6fjMAhVMQ1IKHalqDl8Qpx8IdTAK

Though I'd never never been to Pandora before it closed (I didn't want to die), this is what people thought of it when it was open:

Derek Beverly
11 months ago
Prices were .....The food is ok not great and if you ok with the area then i'd say go except the service was horrible because the music was so loud the waitress couldn't hear you and they get so bombarded with orders they can figure out who's is what.

Thomas Woodard
9 months ago
food quality has gone down

Sherone Littleton
2 years ago
Pandora need more security my friend was killed outside of there

Keshia Nevins
2 years ago
This my spot

Keasha Fowler
a year ago
no
4 years ago
Food is great dislike old men hitting on me

A Google User
4 years ago
Have been here for almost an hour and have not gotten my food! Service is horrible.
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Well sure you make your own definitions for words - and places with Buffalo addresses aren't in Buffalo so ok....

Someone at the Bada Bing thinks they are a sports bar.

It doesn't much matter if it's a sports bar that meets your exacting standards of safety... you still defend Joe Paterno so it's not like anyone would trust your taste.
 

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whaler11 said:
Well sure you make your own definitions for words - and places with Buffalo addresses aren't in Buffalo so ok....

Someone at the Bada Bing thinks they are a sports bar.

It doesn't much matter if it's a sports bar that meets your exacting standards of safety... you still defend Joe Paterno so it's not like anyone would trust your taste.
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That's the best you have, an outright lie?
 
Let's move on.

Tell me about the sports bar scene in Cheektowaga.
 
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pj said:
Let's move on.

Tell me about the sports bar scene in Cheektowaga.
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They have to shell out big $$$ to ESPN; that way ESPN can afford to pay for the LHN channel.
 
Nothing can top a classical Whaler vs Upstater dialectic
Worth visiting the board for.
Reminds me of the debate between GK Chesterton and Clarence Darrow.
 
Pat Verbeek, Geoff Sanderson, Marc Potvin, Chris Pronger, Mark Janssen, Todd Harkins and Kevin McCarthy all wished they could have found a sports bar in Buffalo .....
 
So let me get this straight. Since this is the Big10 Media Rights Negotiation thread, the number of sports bars must effect the contract. That must mean if Whaler is correct and their are many sports bars in Buffalo, the Big10 needs to invite them because of the added monies from the higher fees they will charge the many sports bars. If Upstater is correct, then Buffalo shouldn't be invited because there is only one and they will only get a minimum fee from Buffalo.
 
ESPN stays in the game

>>ESPN will buy the second half of the Big Ten’s media rights package, ending months of speculation that the two were about to sever their 50-year relationship.

ESPN will pay an average of $190 million per year over six years for essentially half the conference’s media rights package, according to several sources close to the talks. Two months ago, Fox Sports agreed to take the other half of the package for an average of $240 million per year. CBS Sports also has told the conference that it will renew its basketball-only package for $10 million per year.

The six-year, $2.64 billion media rights haul represents a big win for the Big Ten Conference, of course, which will see its average media rights payout nearly triple when it takes effect next fall.<<
 
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huskymedic said:
ESPN stays in the game

>>ESPN will buy the second half of the Big Ten’s media rights package, ending months of speculation that the two were about to sever their 50-year relationship.

ESPN will pay an average of $190 million per year over six years for essentially half the conference’s media rights package, according to several sources close to the talks. Two months ago, Fox Sports agreed to take the other half of the package for an average of $240 million per year. CBS Sports also has told the conference that it will renew its basketball-only package for $10 million per year.

The six-year, $2.64 billion media rights haul represents a big win for the Big Ten Conference, of course, which will see its average media rights payout nearly triple when it takes effect next fall.<<
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Plus the BTN payouts, which keep going up.
 
huskymedic said:
ESPN stays in the game

>>ESPN will buy the second half of the Big Ten’s media rights package, ending months of speculation that the two were about to sever their 50-year relationship.

ESPN will pay an average of $190 million per year over six years for essentially half the conference’s media rights package, according to several sources close to the talks. Two months ago, Fox Sports agreed to take the other half of the package for an average of $240 million per year. CBS Sports also has told the conference that it will renew its basketball-only package for $10 million per year.

The six-year, $2.64 billion media rights haul represents a big win for the Big Ten Conference, of course, which will see its average media rights payout nearly triple when it takes effect next fall.<<
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Okay, so what does this mean for us and CRA?
 
Off the top of my head, if you factor in everything, I think each B1G school will get somewhere around $45 million per year when the new agreements take effect.
 
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Exit 4 said:
Okay, so what does this mean for us and CRA?
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It means that there is no need for the B1G to ever expand, along as sports fans are held hostage to subscribe to conference networks as part of sports packages.
 
B1GOSU said:
Off the top of my head, if you factor in everything, I think each B1G school will get somewhere around $45 million per year when the new agreements take effect.
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numbers from nebraska board:

First-tier rights (full members) $31.4 million (440million/14)

Other rights and BTN ~$12.5 million

College Football Playoff $4.7 million

NCAA distribution $4.4 million

Big Ten Tournament and Championship Game $740,000

Total ~$53.75 million/year
 
Maryland and Rutgers will not be equal members at the start of this agreement, as they will still be in their "phase-in" period. Nebraska will be an equal member at the start of this new agreement. So whatever the numbers are, 12 schools will receive equal shares, with Maryland and Rutgers receiving less initially, but their shares increase annually until the 4th year of the new deal when they will also be equal members.
 
Maybe there is no college sports media rights bubble, and it's just a matter of stratification. #Power2
 
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B1GOSU said:
Maryland and Rutgers will not be equal members at the start of this agreement, as they will still be in their "phase-in" period. Nebraska will be an equal member at the start of this new agreement. So whatever the numbers are, 12 schools will receive equal shares, with Maryland and Rutgers receiving less initially, but their shares increase annually until the 4th year of the new deal when they will also be equal members.
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Maryland's share goes down from the $35 million it recieved last year down to 50% (IIRC) of the previous number then it'll shoot up to the ~$50 million or so of the new contract in 20-21.
 
buddy said:
It means that there is no need for the B1G to ever expand, along as sports fans are held hostage to subscribe to conference networks as part of sports packages.
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Yeah, it took me a few hours today to come to the same conclusion.

So the B1G door is firmly shut for us and anyone through 2025 or so. Crap.

The ACC network build out is last ray of hope and its a tiny one at that (ND fully commits requiring a #16).

Maybe its time to seriously campaign to be the doormat and northeast cable box gateway for the SEC. Yes, I have the SEC network, but it has no pricing power at this time north of Washington DC. UConn to the SEC is as plausible as all the others at this point (which is near nil).
 
$54M a year.... My god. FSU and Clemson making less than half of that in the ACC - they are not going to be happy.
 
ouch...
you want to cry when you think Uconn is making 1/20th of that (Uconn, meet Mr. Ben Dover)

 
Losing GE hurts. Is it possible that Aetna and Cigna are next?
how long before Uconn is forced to try legal action to force its way in (ala Utah)...
Revenues in the state are drying up real fast.
 
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