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B1G/SEC Collab

Ldandy said:
Agreed. While FSU's Perception may have taken a minor hit in the media, they ultimately got what they wanted with the suit. A clear understanding of the ACC GOR. 2030 will be chaos. The Noles, Canes, Heels, and Tigers will all likely be on the move. Some combination of others like VPI, GT, Pitt, Ville, NCSU, Stanford and Cal could find themselves elsewhere as well. Ultimately, I think it opens up a spot for The Huskies in a reconfigured ACC, which could still be an attractive East Coast football & basketball option.
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I think many schools will be looking, but I'm not convinced that there are that many landing places.
 
Ldandy said:
I can't imagine that FSU would go through this exercise to force their way into the Big 12.
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Agreed, on the other hand, I can envision circumstance where they overestimated their value and overplayed their hand, leaving the big 12 as their best possible landing spot.
 
The problem with going Indy, unless you are Notre Dame, is landing a high paying media contract for football...and a place to play other sports.

And, I have the feeling that football scheduling might be tougher for an Indy in the future with the P2 going to 9 conference games.

What could be interesting is a reconfiguration...The Big 12 media (ESPN and Fox) contracts are up 2030-31...The ACC also can implode 2030-31.

Could you reshuffle the pack ? Or...it is really could ESPN/Fox reshuffle the pack...
 
CL82 said:
Agreed, on the other hand, I can envision circumstance where they overestimated their value and overplayed their hand, leaving the big 12 as their best possible landing spot.
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I absolutely believe that they overvalued their appeal to the P-2 and won't have the offers they anticipated.

I imagine that the SEC will begin investigating processes where they can reduce membership in states where they have more schools than necessary before doubling up in states where they already own the premium property.

As far as the B1G, I'm not sure they have any desire to own the second best properties in a state, which could hurt FSU and Clemson when the GOR expires.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I absolutely believe that they overvalued their appeal to the P-2 and won't have the offers they anticipated.

I imagine that the SEC will begin investigating processes where they can reduce membership in states where they have more schools than necessary before doubling up in states where they already own the premium property.

As far as the B1G, I'm not sure they have any desire to own the second best properties in a state, which could hurt FSU and Clemson when the GOR expires.
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The media, and by extension, conferences, will go where the eyeballs go. Oh, yeah, there is AAU, culture, markets/shmarkets...but who is watched ?

Old data (2024 not counted)...

 
BUT...the new media configurations have shown their teeth...the SEC and ESPN are power walking.

In addition to the expanded CFP, the 2024 season was also the first year of a new TV landscape in the regular season. The Big Ten casts a wide net through an NFL-style schedule, with games on Fox in the early afternoon, CBS in the late afternoon, and NBC at night in a contract that began in 2023. Beginning this. year, the SEC did the opposite, going all-in with Disney, primarily ABC.

Suffice to say, this was a good arrangement for the SEC and ABC.

ABC stacked its lineup with SEC triple-headers most Saturdays, and viewers rewarded that partnership by parking their remote on ABC and leaving it there all day. SEC programs made a collective 82 appearances among the top 100 games to the Big Ten's 56. A year ago, the number was 66-65 in favor of the SEC, even when using the 2024 alignment.
 
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The more valuable data to me for eyeballs is viewership > than mean for the channel/timeslot.

I.E. compare the ESPN noon games among each other, the SEC 3pm games among each other and what teams are > the mean in their time slot. That's who drives the needle and eliminates the inertia from the fans who'll watch whatever is on ESPN or CBS or Fox all day or at a particular time.
 
greenday61892 said:
THIS, of course people watch the "top" 18 schools, it's the only schools the media won't stfu about
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The problem is the media are no longer news organizations . They have a stake in certain schools and that includes Fanta gushing about us

Next up is CNBC which is being spun off by NBC. I have heard they will have shows featuring financial planners. Any pretense of objectivity will be gone
 
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Kelly, coach of the LSU Tigers, told reporters at SEC spring meetings Wednesday that his peers are in favor of scheduling games against the Big Ten annually. “Our first goal would be wanting to play Big Ten teams,” Kelly said. “As coaches, I can speak for the room, we want to play Big Ten teams. … So we’ve made our voice clear. Our ADs know that we would like that. Our commissioner obviously heard us as well.”

That’s already a newsworthy development, but here’s where it really gets interesting—the games could possibly be a play-in-style format that might decide up to eight bids for the College Football Playoff. In that scenario, using the 2024 standings, the play-in matchups might resemble this:

  • Big Ten No. 1 seed Oregon Ducks vs. SEC No. 8 Ole Miss Rebels
  • Big Ten No. 2 Penn State Nittany Lions vs. SEC No. 7 Texas A&M Aggies
  • Big Ten No. 3 Indiana Hoosiers vs. SEC No. 6 South Carolina Gamecocks
  • Big Ten No. 4 Ohio State Buckeyes vs. SEC No. 5 LSU Tigers
  • Big Ten No. 5 Iowa Hawkeyes vs. SEC No. 4 Alabama Crimson Tide
  • Big Ten No. 6 Illinois Fighting Illini vs. SEC No. 3 Tennessee Volunteers
  • Big Ten No. 7 Michigan Wolverines vs. SEC No. 2 Georgia Bulldogs
  • Big Ten No. 8 Minnesota Golden Gophers vs. SEC No. 1 Texas Longhorns
Where would those games be played? And when? Presumably at campus sites on the first weekend of December, traditionally when league championship games are contested. But all of that is just a discussion topic at this point, with no major decisions expected to be made on scheduling this week. (Everything is on hold pending two things: settlement of the House v. NCAA lawsuit that will shape the economics of the sport; and the structure of the CFP starting in 2026, which could be 14 or 16 teams, in various formats.)
 
Patman said:
Because not everybody means nobody?
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You said zero autoqualifiers. With zero autoqualifiers at all no teams outside of the P4 will be allowed in. Look at the committee's entire body of work, not a single G5 school got a bid (Cincinnati does not count in my eyes, they were already announced as B12-bound during the off-season) in the 4-team era despite several teams that could stake a claim for deserving one.
 
Rufus said:
www.on3.com

Paul Finebaum suggests it's time for the SEC, Big Ten to do what they want, forget everyone else

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www.on3.com www.on3.com
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“What I took away from three days in Destin was that the SEC has finally decided it’s sick and tired of waiting and worrying and trying to deal with the rest of college sports,” Finebaum said on McElroy and Cubelic. “And I was really impressed when Greg Sankey told us … that everything we have to do, doesn’t have to be unanimous. We all know what that meant. And I’m not suggesting a secession, but I am suggesting that it’s time that the Big Ten of the SEC, who apparently are aligned very well, do what they want to do.

“And if the rest of college sports doesn’t like it, too bad. You can join us or not. But I’m so sick of hearing all these proposals to make sure that everybody in the room gets something. This is not little league baseball. This is the absolute zenith of college football, and it should be treated that way, as opposed to making sure everybody gets a third place ribbon.”
 
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jostar1 said:
“What I took away from three days in Destin was that the SEC has finally decided it’s sick and tired of waiting and worrying and trying to deal with the rest of college sports,” Finebaum said on McElroy and Cubelic. “And I was really impressed when Greg Sankey told us … that everything we have to do, doesn’t have to be unanimous. We all know what that meant. And I’m not suggesting a secession, but I am suggesting that it’s time that the Big Ten of the SEC, who apparently are aligned very well, do what they want to do.

“And if the rest of college sports doesn’t like it, too bad. You can join us or not. But I’m so sick of hearing all these proposals to make sure that everybody in the room gets something. This is not little league baseball. This is the absolute zenith of college football, and it should be treated that way, as opposed to making sure everybody gets a third place ribbon.”
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This was always the original plan with everyone else playing second or third fiddle.

Glad he is not sugar coating it anymore. They will only care when fans leave in massive numbers to the point where it will impact media deal values.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
This was always the original plan with everyone else playing second or third fiddle.

Glad he is not sugar coating it anymore. They will only care when fans leave in massive numbers to the point where it will impact media deal values.
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They are going to end up in court and they will end up losing. Left out colleges and states will sue, and be able to tie them up in court for years.
The TV networks will capitulate to avoid having paperwork , contracts, emails, phone conversations, and other documents seized.
 
jostar1 said:
“What I took away from three days in Destin was that the SEC has finally decided it’s sick and tired of waiting and worrying and trying to deal with the rest of college sports,” Finebaum said on McElroy and Cubelic. “And I was really impressed when Greg Sankey told us … that everything we have to do, doesn’t have to be unanimous. We all know what that meant. And I’m not suggesting a secession, but I am suggesting that it’s time that the Big Ten of the SEC, who apparently are aligned very well, do what they want to do.

“And if the rest of college sports doesn’t like it, too bad. You can join us or not. But I’m so sick of hearing all these proposals to make sure that everybody in the room gets something. This is not little league baseball. This is the absolute zenith of college football, and it should be treated that way, as opposed to making sure everybody gets a third place ribbon.”
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Pride comes before the fall.
 
That war changed the north...over 6 million black citizens moved from the South to the North between 1910 and 1970.

Chicago, Detroit, NYC, and Philadelphia...urban culture as we know it was created, or at the least, highly influenced.

Maybe, just maybe, hip hop and rap can be seen as a result of that migration...
 
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