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Thinking things will continue to be the way they have always been is a common feature in failures. College sports is heading into a hurricane of headwinds (demographic cliff, declining interest in traditional sports), and the P2 seem to be trying to cut the market in half before it gets there. The Commissioners of the Big 10 and SEC could go down as two of the stupidest business leaders of the era if they follow through with their plans to eliminate the rest of the country from competition.
Eventually the SEC and Big are going to be in court with different states suing them for Anti Trust violations and they will lose.
Then the Federal Government will step in and the SEC, Big, and the networks will be sitting in congress trying to explain their actions.
 
Sadly, I believe you are mistaken. Two of the biggest reasons for P-2 FB dominance are playing on Saturday night in Tuscaloosa (Georgia at Alabama). It probably will break a regular season TV rating record...
Only until they expect you to pay to watch.
 
But college sports is counting on growth to the moon.
MLB is a terrible TV product. I love baseball, even if my team is terrible (my grandad got me into following ball and they were his team) but baseball just isn't a good TV product. It's fun to go to a game, have a beer and hot dog, heckle the batter, but I'd rather watch just about anything else on TV.
 
I want to agree with this, but the more programs are left out of the picture and the smaller the group of "haves" becomes, the greater the success has been for college football ratings overall. Ratings suggest that consumers overwhelmingly favor what's happening. If they didn't, wouldn’t the ratings drop?
When they want extra $, will you still watch their cartel?
 
The Big 10 can play itself in Hockey and Lacrosse. "Those who want respect, give respect." There is no repect between the P2 and everyone else.
 
So...the other conferences say "we don't have enough input" and the P2 answers "no..it is we that don't yet have enough. Shut up and sit down."

The SEC and Sankey are locked and loaded and ready to kick off a separation of the B1G and SEC....The ACC and Big 12 are no longer even a fictional player in the wrongly labelled P4.

"Prestige is the shadow of power and money."
 
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So...the other conferences say "we don't have enough input" and the P2 answers "no..it is we that don't yet have enough. Shut up and sit down."

The SEC and Sankey are locked and loaded and ready to kick off a separation of the B1G and SEC....The ACC and Big 12 are no longer even a fictional player in the wrongly labelled P4.

"Prestige is the shadow of power and money."
Billy,

I'm sorry if you take offense to my comments that may appear as me being unsympathetic to your school's plight, but I am in fact unsympathetic to your school's plight.

Anyone who did not see this as the eventual outcome twenty to twenty five years ago was blind, some were intentionally blind.

Your conference went out of its way, on a few occasions to destroy the Big East and in the process just made the path easier for the B1G and SEC to reach their goals. Your school was complicit and many of the steps that eventually made things easier for the P-2 and the demise of the Pac-12.

We are where we are because a handful of conferences who were not quite at the top tier felt it was better to attack conferences below them than emulate conferences above them. Basically you (the ACC) did a large part of the job the P-2 needed done to achieve their goals.
 
Billy,

I'm sorry if you take offense to my comments that may appear as me being unsympathetic to your school's plight, but I am in fact unsympathetic to your school's plight.

Anyone who did not see this as the eventual outcome twenty to twenty five years ago was blind, some were intentionally blind.

Your conference went out of its way, on a few occasions to destroy the Big East and in the process just made the path easier for the B1G and SEC to reach their goals. Your school was complicit and many of the steps that eventually made things easier for the P-2 and the demise of the Pac-12.

We are where we are because a handful of conferences who were not quite at the top tier felt it was better to attack conferences below them than emulate conferences above them. Basically you (the ACC) did a large part of the job the P-2 needed done to achieve their goals.
I lol'd at that opening sentence and the rest was spot on.
 
Billy,

I'm sorry if you take offense to my comments that may appear as me being unsympathetic to your school's plight, but I am in fact unsympathetic to your school's plight.

Anyone who did not see this as the eventual outcome twenty to twenty five years ago was blind, some were intentionally blind.

Your conference went out of its way, on a few occasions to destroy the Big East and in the process just made the path easier for the B1G and SEC to reach their goals. Your school was complicit and many of the steps that eventually made things easier for the P-2 and the demise of the Pac-12.

We are where we are because a handful of conferences who were not quite at the top tier felt it was better to attack conferences below them than emulate conferences above them. Basically you (the ACC) did a large part of the job the P-2 needed done to achieve their goals.

Oh yes...I have seen this coming from a long way.....when I was in school 55 years ago...it was all about the Big Ten...they had the tradition, the big fan bases. Pre 1984, certain conferences were prioritized with the limited telecasts (ABC had exclusive rights from 1961-1984) You could play out a career at a school like FSU, Southern Miss, Duke, etc and never be seen on TV during the regular season. We listened to games on the radio...

If you think about it, the unfettering of football telecasting post 1984 and the massive turn to funding football in contracts caught many by surprise. The ACC's Swofford said that as late as 1990 basketball brought in more media money to the ACC than football and the ACC was too slow to realize that the tide was turning. Some fans of some schools were dismayed at the hold that basketball schools still held on the conference.

I am not unsympathetic to the Big East...but it was an awkward beast as was/is the ACC...some football schools, some basketball schools, and a bunch of private schools...the ACC was similar....the SEC's Vanderbilt is their only private and Northwestern is the B1G's only private to the ACC's eight privates.

But money was always going to be the determinate of what college football would become...media contracts, and the rapidly changing environment of court settlements and NIL, has created ever widening chasms between programs...Heck, Miami just got a commitment from the top prep OT...at $2 million per year in his NIL, he earns as much or more than 80 NFL offensive linemen.


"what rough beast, it's hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born ? "
 
When you were born in 1946 as I was, you have lived through a lot of changes...and things always change and change can be uncomfortable.

The monetizing of an NFL like upper tier of college football was only a matter of time...and the abdication of control by the NCAA, lubricated by the courts, has only accelerated the demise of the college football that we once knew.
 
I just read the NFL can opt out of most of its TV packages in 2029.

I know the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 protects HS/College football on Fridays and Saturdays, but hasn't CFB become a professional league and competitor (in addition to the UFL) to the NFL? As noted above, an OT on Miami is making as much or more than 80 NFL linemen?!?

If I were the NFL, would it make sense to challenge the act and bring to market in 2029 a package where every game is nationally televised? I would imagine the only thing holding back that windfall is the availability of Friday and Saturday time slots....
 
So...the other conferences say "we don't have enough input" and the P2 answers "no..it is we that don't yet have enough. Shut up and sit down."

The SEC and Sankey are locked and loaded and ready to kick off a separation of the B1G and SEC....The ACC and Big 12 are no longer even a fictional player in the wrongly labelled P4.

"Prestige is the shadow of power and money."

The national media isn't even pretending there is a P4 any more.
The Big12 and ACC commishes admitting they voted not in best interest of their conference but rather as a bending of the knee to reality, put final nail in P4.

It's a P2, then two two highly paid toads, then the rest of college conferences.
 
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When you were born in 1946 as I was, you have lived through a lot of changes...and things always change and change can be uncomfortable.

The monetizing of an NFL like upper tier of college football was only a matter of time...and the abdication of control by the NCAA, lubricated by the courts, has only accelerated the demise of the college football that we once knew.
And eventually courts and politicians from the states are going to get involved.
When that happens Conference Commissioners like the SEC who has made public statements, also the Big. TV executives all will be in court and congress trying to explain why they should allow it.
Then they will demand records, emails, testimony.
After the courts and states get done with them their will be a court appointed Commissioner over the entire thing.
And you already saw what the TV people will do before they have to open the books. Florida St, Clemson, Florida, and South Carolina against the ACC and ESPN, they might have won the case against the schools, but didn't want to open their books.
Probably around the time of the Big 12 contract you will start to see courts and states getting involved.
 

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