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CL82 said:
I don't disagree with that statement. The problem was that John Marinatto was sitting in a corner playing peak-a-boo with a mirror.
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IMind said:
This absolute kills me... I don't know if Hathaway could have hired a worse coach if he tried.
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I have to be honest. At the time he was chosen, I thought P was a safe if not spectacular hire. That it turned out to be a complete duckk of the program surprised me, but there is no denying that is what happened.
 
pj said:
Remember that it is academics (university presidents) who make realignment decisions, not athletic directors or football boosters. The B1G and their CIC is a major draw to presidents. I would say it at least balances the Texas link, which can be addressed by out of conference scheduling.
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And yet there's L-ville rubbing elbows with Duke, UVA, VPI...makes me sick.
 
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UCONN13KC said:
And yet there's L-ville rubbing elbows with Duke, UVA, VPI...makes me sick.
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Me too. Well, if it makes you feel better, UL is trying to look cool at the high school dance by hanging out with the jocks (Clemson, FSU) but will wind up working as a caddie. Meanwhile the nerds (Duke, UVA) are on track to be the CEO that the UL guy is going to caddy for.
 
Dooley said:
In the land of conspiracies, I wonder if Kitty would think that Delany is pushing the de-regulation vote on the B12 in hopes that they will add UConn (with thoughts of creating a B12N) to keep us away from the ACC. It's really a race between the B12 and ACC to see who will get a network first. The loser of that race will eventually die out and be picked off by another P4 conference.
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Or he thinks it is BS that the ACC will be able to match Clemson and FSU and the Big XII its top two teams, and he doesn't want his league at a competitive disadvantage. That's the thing. They set the rule at 12 precisely because it caused divisions to be essential. It makes sense that if you drop it to 10, you should still make divisions essential. The Pac has been hosed several times with Stanford playing weak teams in its championship.
 
quacktalker said:
Hearing all these what-ifs and possibilities never ceases to let the irrational hope well up inside me. FWIW, my realignment wet dream (other than a straight up UConn to B1G move) is this:

**Prepare for delusion**
  • The Longhorn Network folds (losing tons of money right now), and Texas begins discussions about a conference move
  • B1G decides 16 is the future, adds Missouri (no grant of rights) and Kansas
  • Oklahoma beats Texas to the punch and joins the SEC to fill Missouri's place
  • SEC also adds West Virginia and Virginia Tech to match the B1G at 16 (two new markets)
  • Texas panics without their network and OU, and ends up in the Pac-12 (now 14) with Texas Tech as a travel partner
  • 5 defecting Big 12 schools sue over GOR, they win and the Big 12 has officially blown up
  • In a blockbuster move, the football-centric ACC schools jump ship to join the five remaining Big 12 schools
  • New Big 12: Kansas State, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, TCU, and Baylor, with Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, NC State and Miami from the ACC, plus Cincinnati from the American
  • ACC is left with 7 full members, adds UConn as a full member plus Army and Navy football only
  • The ACC gives the Catholic 5 (sorry Marquette/DePaul) a sweet offer, they join for non-football sports with Notre Dame
  • ACC: BC, PC, UConn, SJ, SHall, Cuse, Pitt, ND, Nova, GTown, UVA, UNC, Duke, Wake
  • ACC is a middling football conference but a basketball powerhouse, just what UConn always deserved
As you can see it gets more and more unlikely as it unfolds. But a kid can dream right?
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Taking them in order....

The LHN folds.

I think Texas, Tech, OU and OSU join the Pac12.

Kansas, Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas State and West Virginia start scrambling.

There's really nothing in that bunch that would appeal to the SEC, so they pass. There's nothing for the ACC and they're stuck with ND as an odd appendage so they pass.

The Big 10 could take Kansas, but what else is in there? Do they take Kansas and UConn? I'd guess that might be too basketbally a bite for the B10 football powers, so I guess not.

So welcome to the American, folks!

Or the six dead Big 12 members meet UConn, Cincy, Temple, UCF and Houston at diner and they Facetime BYU, Boise and SDSU and become the Big 12+2 American West Conference.
 
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quacktalker said:
... FWIW, my realignment wet dream (other than a straight up UConn to B1G move) is this:...
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Just so we're clear, the dream portion of a "wet dream" should be highly enjoyable. At no point does your scenario sound enjoyable. Along with many of us here on the BY, I think you should seek counseling. If you find a good one let me know.
 
Fishy said:
You can absolutely toss out everything he says.

You have to appreciate the yeoman's work he's doing in spreading good thoughts, but it's not hard to figure out who he is.
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He has offered a credible denial when accused of this previously.
 
quacktalker said:
Hearing all these what-ifs and possibilities never ceases to let the irrational hope well up inside me. FWIW, my realignment wet dream (other than a straight up UConn to B1G move) is this:

**Prepare for delusion**
  • The Longhorn Network folds (losing tons of money right now), and Texas begins discussions about a conference move
  • B1G decides 16 is the future, adds Missouri (no grant of rights) and Kansas
  • Oklahoma beats Texas to the punch and joins the SEC to fill Missouri's place
  • SEC also adds West Virginia and Virginia Tech to match the B1G at 16 (two new markets)
  • Texas panics without their network and OU, and ends up in the Pac-12 (now 14) with Texas Tech as a travel partner
  • 5 defecting Big 12 schools sue over GOR, they win and the Big 12 has officially blown up
  • In a blockbuster move, the football-centric ACC schools jump ship to join the five remaining Big 12 schools
  • New Big 12: Kansas State, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, TCU, and Baylor, with Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, NC State and Miami from the ACC, plus Cincinnati from the American
  • ACC is left with 7 full members, adds UConn as a full member plus Army and Navy football only
  • The ACC gives the Catholic 5 (sorry Marquette/DePaul) a sweet offer, they join for non-football sports with Notre Dame
  • ACC: BC, PC, UConn, SJ, SHall, Cuse, Pitt, ND, Nova, GTown, UVA, UNC, Duke, Wake
  • ACC is a middling football conference but a basketball powerhouse, just what UConn always deserved
As you can see it gets more and more unlikely as it unfolds. But a kid can dream right?
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Hey HFD it's been a long time
Hope your well.
 
FDNY99 said:
That's not a dream for UCONN...that's a complete nightmare!!!
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I look at the basketball side of it and I'm in heaven. Football rules everything, however, and I know rooting for this scenario is shortsighted. At the end of the day, no way this plays out.

Fairfield_1st said:
Just so we're clear, the dream portion of a "wet dream" should be highly enjoyable. At no point does your scenario sound enjoyable. Along with many of us here on the BY, I think you should seek counseling. If you find a good one let me know.
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I get that football might not be the best in this situation, but I think the basketball season would be highly enjoyable. I went at this with a basketball fan's perspective.
 
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uconndogs said:
I have to be honest. At the time he was chosen, I thought P was a safe if not spectacular hire. That it turned out to be a complete duckk of the program surprised me, but there is no denying that is what happened.
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Just about a minute after UConn hired Coach P, a friend from Syracuse who knows folks in their administration and like me, also knows Coach P from our hometown, sent me note on Facebook with his condolences. As the late Han Solo would say, I got a bad feeling about this."
 
uconndogs said:
I have to be honest. At the time he was chosen, I thought P was a safe if not spectacular hire. That it turned out to be a complete duckk of the program surprised me, but there is no denying that is what happened.
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Surprise! The safe, boring, conservative move, with zero upside, ends up providing an infinitude of downside.
 
CallMeBruce said:
I would imagine that, if the ACC was down four schools and adding basketball pedigrees, Kansas would be on the shortlist.
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That could work as well, provided that Iowa State is brought in as a regional partner. Kansas on an island would recreate the WVU/B12 scenario. I like UC/UConn, as they're closer.
 
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politics said:
Their first mistake was letting it get personal with Blumenthal (not to absolve him of blame). Their second was continuing to listen to Flipper/Fr. Leahy. Think Swofford would like a mulligan now?Swofford was not opposed to UConn to the ACC. It was BC and FSU remember who put the kibosh on the whole thing.
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jostar1 said:
Buffalo Lion knows too much about the Big Ten to be either upstater or HFD. I think he has to really be a fan of a school that is in the Big Ten. I think he might be Flugaur.
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Unless Greg Flugaur, adopted the BuffaloLion moniker as a pseudonym, it's doubtful he's a Penn State alum. Based on flugempire's LinkedIn bio and his twitter info/tweets, Flugaur openly shares he's a Minnesota alumnus and employee of Bob Burton's Cenveo. That may not rule out a fictional name.
 
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