Notre Dame’s exit fee is around $100 million. Or around one years worth of B1G revenue if they join the conference. That’s before negations to bring it down.
Is that just football? Because they have an agreement to play a set number of games with the ACC in football. Reading that I think the rest of their sports still fall under the GOR.Notre Dame’s exit fee is around $100 million. Or around one years worth of B1G revenue if they join the conference. That’s before negations to bring it down.
The rest of their sports' TV rights are a pirmttance. Bottom line, ND can very easily make up their exit fees by going to the B1G.Is that just football? Because they have an agreement to play a set number of games with the ACC in football. Reading that I think the rest of their sports still fall under the GOR.
That's not the way the GOR works. Unless they have a different arrangement for their other sports than the rest of the conference. But, you know what, I don't really care enough to carry on the conversation. Whatever it is it is. If I'm wrong I'm sure I'll read about it here.The rest of their sports' TV rights are a pirmttance. Bottom line, ND can very easily make up their exit fees by going to the B1G.
Do you really think the B1G cares about any other ND sport besides football ?Would they be joining the BIG in football only? ND's other sports are covered under the ACC's gor until 2036. As of yet no one has found a way out of that. I'm not going to look it up but I think the football team is even contractually obligated to stay independent or join the ACC. Anything is possible though. It's really kind of the BIG to help them out.
Nope, no they don't care at all. That's why ND put them there in the first place, because they don't care either.Do you really think the B1G cares about any other ND sport besides football ?
If another sport say BB moved the needle we would be in the B1G.
Isn’t Hockey already in the B1G ?
Explaining Notre Dame's realignment dilemma, ACC Grant of Rights fee ... so, worst case $100m and these usually get negotiated down and/or stretched out over a period of time. So, this will not be Notre Dame's driving factor to depart the ACC for the BIG. The B1G's new TV deal even has a clause for the potential future inclusion of ND.That's not the way the GOR works. Unless they have a different arrangement for their other sports than the rest of the conference. But, you know what, I don't really care enough to carry on the conversation. Whatever it is it is. If I'm wrong I'm sure I'll read about it here.
Uncertainty is one of the best bullets GOR's have in the chamber.Here are ND's legal entanglements regarding the ACC:
--GOR until 2036 for all sports but football and hockey (No TV rights for those sports if ND exits).
--Exit fee...$120 million. Some talk that ND's may be lower but that is doubtful.
--Contract to play 5 ACC football teams per year through 2036 and,
--Contract that says if ND football joins a conference before 2036, it must be the ACC.
So, ND would have to try to "buy out" the GOR. Why would ACC even negotiate? How much $ is that?
ND would also breach two football related contracts and would have to settle damage claims for those.
How much would that cost?
Then, it would have to pay an exit fee.
ND received $17.4 million from the ACC per the 2022 ACC tax forms.Uncertainty is one of the best bullets GOR's have in the chamber.
If I were going to value the ND ACC GOR, the place I would start is Notre Dame's annual media distributions from the ACC times the number of years left on the GOR. So, $12M x 13 yrs = $156M. Although, for us, that would be a staggering amount, yes Notre Dame were going to join the B1G, it's doable, although less so when you add the exit fee of 120 million, the breach of the game contracts, and the biggest?, What are the damages of promising not to join another conference until 2036?
Agree, unless someone else decides to blow the whole thing up and gets enough others to join them. The good thing for Notre Dame is you will have a soft landing spot if that happens.ND received $17.4 million from the ACC per the 2022 ACC tax forms.
ND gets a 1/3 share of the ESPN ACC TV deal and a 100% share of all ACC Network profits.
I think that ND's best option is to renew a five year deal with NBC and keep the ACC status as is, for now.
Then, "monitor the landscape" in 2030 when the Big Ten TV deals are coming up for renewal and the ACC GOR clock is winding down.
You must be fun at partiesThese shirts should be destroyed and the "brains" behind the design neutered.
First paragraph last sentence. GOR still applies to other sports, meaning ND would forgo the rights to all other sports revenue until 2036. The 100mil is just for the football team. Better yet, read TerryD's post, he lays it out better than I and I'm tired of banging my head against a wall.Explaining Notre Dame's realignment dilemma, ACC Grant of Rights fee ... so, worst case $100m and these usually get negotiated down and/or stretched out over a period of time. So, this will not be Notre Dame's driving factor to depart the ACC for the BIG. The B1G's new TV deal even has a clause for the potential future inclusion of ND.
To make an obvious point, if the Big Ten and ND want to be married, they would not be stopped by the fact that the ACC would still have the broadcast rights to ND's home basketball games for the remaining term of the GOR (assuming the GOR is specifically enforceable, which I've never been overly sure about).Here are ND's legal entanglements regarding the ACC:
--GOR until 2036 for all sports but football and hockey (No TV rights for those sports if ND exits).
--Exit fee...$120 million. Some talk that ND's may be lower but that is doubtful.
--Contract to play 5 ACC football teams per year through 2036 and,
--Contract that says if ND football joins a conference before 2036, it must be the ACC.
So, ND would have to try to "buy out" the GOR. Why would ACC even negotiate? How much $ is that?
ND would also breach two football related contracts and would have to settle damage claims for those.
How much would that cost?
Then, it would have to pay an exit fee.
(Is it even worth it when comparing what the Big Ten would pay minus the above and minus what ND football can get from NBC in 2025 (currently unknown) and what ND gets from the ACC----$17-20 million/yr. ??).
No joke, I'm ashamed of my involvement in the discussionWhy are we so obsessed with ND?
Why are we so obsessed with ND?
Guys: Watch this. A case from Mike Solomon, a UConn grad, for UConn to get into the Big 12.
Yeah, but he wastes way too much time before getting to football. And the basketball msg needs to be simplified. Last quarter century 5 Natty's, no one else comes close. Women have 11 and would have had more had it not been for injuries. The Rent is where it is to be close to where the people are. It was built for expansion. List all the P5's UConn has beaten. Tell em what you told em. Conclude. Full stop. Less than 5 minutes. The problem with commentators is that they are paid to talk. A lot of talking is not what is needed. Keep it simple stupid.Mike is a high energy spokesman. Really the perfect guy to be representing the program.
Yeah, but he wastes way too much time before getting to football.
They would have to be because ND last won a football title in 1988 - 35 years ago! More undeserved hype - the laurels they're resting on are freaking fossilized...This is effectively a Notre Dame message board much of the time. A lot of the posters are boomers still living in the 80’s when it comes to college football.
Remember AIL Time Warner was going to rule the media world and IBM was the boss. Eventually ND will join them as there are much better products out thereThey would have to be because ND last won a football title in 1988 - 35 years ago! More undeserved hype - the laurels they're resting on are freaking fossilized...