There was some discussion about it on CSBBBS and Frank the Tank said it's ironclad.
B12 and ACC on the clock!
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sure is a lot of banter out there.
Imagine if it went down like this. Stardate 2012 or 2013
B1G invites Rutgers. No one knows why, it just happens.
ACC invites Pitt, Syracuse, Louisville
Big 12 invites WVU, UConn, Cincy
None of those programs are saying no. No question. And it would seem that the Big 12 got the better deal there.
Regarding the basketball talk. Neither the ACC nor B1G really has the NYC basketball market. Imagine if the Big 12 swooped in to land UConn along with SJU, Nova, Georgetown, and MSG. That would be some serious hoops hops.
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I think the ACCs was modeled after the Big 12s which was renewed with their new deal. Its the one Texas and Oklahoma paid 50 million dollars each to get out 1 year early.
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No - but damn it I have watched it a bit for college football, college BB and a bit of softball.
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This is a great quote about Yormark and his approach:
“Yormark views these expansion prospects more from a professional sports lens, seeing things in terms of future upside more than past achievements,” says The Athletic. “He’s looking at programs he can invest in by helping build up their brands so they eventually make the Big 12 more valuable when it’s time for the next TV deal in 2031.“
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“Yormark views these expansion prospects more from a professional sports lens, seeing things in terms of future upside more than past achievements,” says The Athletic. “He’s looking at programs he can invest in by helping build up their brands so they eventually make the Big 12 more valuable when it’s time for the next TV deal in 2031.“
Brett Yormark Faces Skepticism Over UConn Interest: Report
The Big 12 is in a position to play offense, when it comes to conference expansion, for the first time since conference realignment shook the foundations of college athletics over a decade ago. With the Pac-12 struggling to find a legitimate television deal that will keep all parties involved...
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This is why we need to be in the B12 ASAP. When both PAC-12 and the ACC eventually fall apart, there might not even be a seat for UConn if we don't push hard right now to join.This is a great quote about Yormark and his approach:
“Yormark views these expansion prospects more from a professional sports lens, seeing things in terms of future upside more than past achievements,” says The Athletic. “He’s looking at programs he can invest in by helping build up their brands so they eventually make the Big 12 more valuable when it’s time for the next TV deal in 2031.“
Brett Yormark Faces Skepticism Over UConn Interest: Report
The Big 12 is in a position to play offense, when it comes to conference expansion, for the first time since conference realignment shook the foundations of college athletics over a decade ago. With the Pac-12 struggling to find a legitimate television deal that will keep all parties involved...
“One challenge for Yormark, if he determines UConn is part of his plan, would be building consensus among his board of Big 12 presidents and chancellors. There’s some skepticism among league sources about whether UConn would become accretive in value for the conference. Yormark has enjoyed strong support from his board to pursue what he thinks is best since he was hired last July. It’s easy for presidents and ADs to get on board with importing Pac-12 schools and the value they would drive as full-share members. But going in this direction would likely take much more discussion and convincing.“
Having success in the upcoming football season is critical for UConn.
Having success in the upcoming football season is critical for UConn.
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Unfortunately this is true. Even if Yormark is paying the long game, to get enough buy in to get it approved will require the support of those too myopic who only look at recent success. C’est la vie.
I think we will have a good football season this year. Last year and this year are fast becoming the most important two season stretch in the history of the program.
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Decent (but long) thread/ACC Summary:
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That people can't see this is astonishing. For once lets get ahead of the curve. Be in a position where SU, Pitt, and BC are hoping to join US for once and not the other way around.
Oh and Mississippi - 2 SEC teams with a population of less than 3mm...
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Strange. Over the decades I don't remember seeing you under the Eero Saarinen roof freezing your butt off like the rest of us.
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I am not sure the Big 12 would be the best fit but it is way more stable than the ACC and the pipedream that we are going to the B1G. If the Big 12 comes knocking the only option is to leave. We can't survive long-term athletically until the ACC GOR ends. We are not going to get invited unless they see teams leaving and then our payout won't be anywhere close to what the Big 12 will be getting.
For the basketball purists, outside GT, St. Johns, and Villanova who else do we care enough to play each year? If we really care about these rivalries we schedule them each year as and outside the conference game. Big East is no doubt the best fit for basketball but UConn, in its entirety, is bigger than the other Big East members.
For the basketball purists, outside GT, St. Johns, and Villanova who else do we care enough to play each year? If we really care about these rivalries we schedule them each year as and outside the conference game. Big East is no doubt the best fit for basketball but UConn, in its entirety, is bigger than the other Big East members.
I agree it's close to being a now-or-never thing.
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There’s some skepticism among league sources about whether UConn would become accretive in value for the conference.
The value we bring wil be determined by their Network partner , Plus the value we bring to the B12 Network via our DMA #30 without Fairfield County, #20-22 with Fairfield, Plus streaming capabilities.
The value we bring wil be determined by their Network partner , Plus the value we bring to the B12 Network via our DMA #30 without Fairfield County, #20-22 with Fairfield, Plus streaming capabilities.
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Plus, all those Texas players get to come up north and go watch the Giants, Jets and Eagles while they are in town.
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We talked about it on the basketball board. I think it will hurt our basketball program some and probably help the football program some. I care most about UConn basketball so it would bum me out but money makes the world go round...
My worry is we'll be stuck in another mishmash of schools that aren't all that appealing, while much better than the AAC we'll still be the one northeast outlier and not a cultural fit but we can't get left out again, the money and risk of being left out of everything seems to great...
I'm not at all sold on the Big 12 schools that are left with Texas and Oklahoma leaving that's why it's important that the Big 12 is incredibly proactive while UConn is incredibly proactive. Sell the other programs in the ACC on why they have to join the Big 12. Get them on board with joining Clemson, FSU and the others on breaking up the ACC. If Big 12 really wants to be the third power conference they have to add the remaining schools like UConn, Pitt, Duke, Cuse, Louisville.
I hate all of this but it's the way it is.
Agree! We can't just monitor things a la Manuel. We have to be aggressive. I do think the ACC is in serious jeopardy - the 7 that want out can force a deal on the GOR IMO and there is plenty of money in their futures to make it advantageous anyways. The ACC was always the screwed up member of the P 5 conferences. The ACC is a weird hybrid; starting with the half ass deal with ND (solely on ND's terms) and the reliance on BC and Syracuse to be contributors of import. I can see two mega football conferences when the dust settles - one SEC based and one BIG based.
I think a total of 36-40 teams will get the nod and the revenue will be mind boggling. The SEC and the BIG will take 32 spots (I don't see any teams getting booted from either conference w/o a titanic struggle.) To get to 36 you need 4 - eg. Clemson, FSU, Miami, Oregon etc., etc. As it is, who doesn't like tuning in for SEC football in the 3:30 pm 7 pm time slots on any given fall Saturday. It can only get better (and bigger). Beyond that, UConn can reasonably aspire to be in next tier football conference and a top BB conference, with great baseball too! The BIG is an outside possibility, but Rutgers has done nothing to make an eastern football and BB team an attractive proposition to the BIG. We help with a hockey team though (the BIG only has 7.), but unfortunately hockey doesn't drive a small car, let alone "the bus"...
This is a big thing that would work in UConn's favor. If Yormark looks at a UConn program with excellent hoops and sees an opportunity to invest to make football more valuable in a good market area he'd make the move... for all sports. Which is exactly what UConn needs.This is a great quote about Yormark and his approach:
“Yormark views these expansion prospects more from a professional sports lens, seeing things in terms of future upside more than past achievements,” says The Athletic. “He’s looking at programs he can invest in by helping build up their brands so they eventually make the Big 12 more valuable when it’s time for the next TV deal in 2031.“
Brett Yormark Faces Skepticism Over UConn Interest: Report
The Big 12 is in a position to play offense, when it comes to conference expansion, for the first time since conference realignment shook the foundations of college athletics over a decade ago. With the Pac-12 struggling to find a legitimate television deal that will keep all parties involved...
I agree with this and it sounds great, but unfortunately if the Big 12 invite comes now or next year, we can't wait around to see if the ACC breaks up and those schools can leave. They are stuck with the GOR.
And what if those schools leap-frog us to the Big12? It's happened before with the ACC.
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The B1G didn't go after Rutgers because of their deep history of athletic success.
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Correct - they have none.
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Couz speaks about UConn and B12
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When UConn was in the AAC it was P5 or bust. Everything has changed, blood has been shed Jerry. If Big 12 calls get on your knees and thank it with all you got. ACC is a mess so get the Big 12 now before the floodgates open. Listen to this guy. It is the P2, then the Big 12, and then dead conferences walking. Big 12 isn't perfect, but it is what's left. Kansas, Kansas State, Okie State, Iowa State, WVU, Ciny, those are our peers to start. Pitt, NC State, Cuse, they'll come later.
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