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I can totally understand why FSU would be ambivalent about joining the B10. Makes perfect sense. I don't think anyone should be surprised.
 
upstater said:
I can totally understand why FSU would be ambivalent about joining the B10. Makes perfect sense. I don't think anyone should be surprised.
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I think you mean Big 12. And yes they don't want to join the Big 12 - but don't tell the internet or Boneyard they moved 18 months ago in their minds.
 
whaler11 said:
I think you mean Big 12. And yes they don't want to join the Big 12 - but don't tell the internet or Boneyard they moved 18 months ago in their minds.
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Yes, I meant B12. FSU has issues. it can't even lock down the ACC! But the biggest reason is playing schools nearby.
 
ScottVib said:
Best quote from the old SWC - Big 8 article:

From the Oklahoma AD: "I mean, is Iowa State going to go all the way to Houston to play Rice?"

My how the times have changed.
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Remember when you played SMU Vibbs?
 
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Huskieforlife said:
You are now going into a never ending sleep. *snap*
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That is funny stuff. Whatever you did there almost worked. I actually had a tough time getting up this morning and slept the longest I have in a few years. You're scaring me!
 
In the midst of all of this I keep fixating on the fact that UConn had 4 invitees to the Senior Bowl!!!!!-one less than Alabama and Georgia and tied with Fla St. I agree with other commentators who said it's a pinch me moment to stop and think about the sheer eyeopening nature of that fact-----and should have been trumpeted by the announcers--(or maybe WM should have taken out a full page ad in USA Today)----yet we're ho hum dismissed as an outlier, second rate program from a third rate conference.
 
Nostical said:
In the midst of all of this I keep fixating on the fact that UConn had 4 invitees to the Senior Bowl!!!!!-one less than Alabama and Georgia and tied with Fla St. I agree with other commentators who said it's a pinch me moment to stop and think about the sheer eyeopening nature of that fact-----and should have been trumpeted by the announcers--(or maybe WM should have taken out a full page ad in USA Today)----yet we're ho hum dismissed as an outlier, second rate program from a third rate conference.
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UConn football got the short end of the stick nationally a few months ago, and it's amazing to see the talent on this team. The defensive players are NFL capable, and then even the offense had a slate of more than passable wide receivers, a couple talented TEs, an offensive line that was not nearly as bad as a people make it out to be, and a QB who was all but lost out there, hung out to dry, but who is talented.

Which begs the question: does Manuel expect talent like this every year?
 
Nostical said:
In the midst of all of this I keep fixating on the fact that UConn had 4 invitees to the Senior Bowl!!!!!-one less than Alabama and Georgia and tied with Fla St. I agree with other commentators who said it's a pinch me moment to stop and think about the sheer eyeopening nature of that fact-----and should have been trumpeted by the announcers--(or maybe WM should have taken out a full page ad in USA Today)----yet we're ho hum dismissed as an outlier, second rate program from a third rate conference.
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Actually we had 3 invites, Sio was Trevardo's injury replacement
 
bigeastconf said:
Actually we had 3 invites, Sio was Trevardo's injury replacement
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Not really, that makes 4. They could have invited anyone from any team to replace Trevardo. They chose Sio.
 
Nostical said:
Not really, that makes 4. They could have invited anyone from any team to replace Trevardo. They chose Sio.
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3 uconn players played in the senior bowl, don't make it what it's not.
 
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bigeastconf said:
3 uconn players played in the senior bowl, don't make it what it's not.
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It's 4. I think we can feel pretty comfortable in saying 4 UConn players were invited to the Senior Bowl. Some kids even decline invitations, some kids get hurt during practice.
 
bigeastconf said:
3 uconn players played in the senior bowl, don't make it what it's not.
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It's 4. Did you had difficulty with that required math course at UNC, so you opted for a African Studies math substitute held (well scheduled) summer session? Maybe that explains it.
 
NEforceUConn said:
It's 4. Did you had difficulty with that required math course at UNC, so you opted for a African Studies math substitute held (well scheduled) summer session? Maybe that explains it.
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Don't be a d*ck, Sio was a replacement who would have not played had Trevardo not been injured.
 
Not true. He would have been invited had any player from any team been injured. It so happens it was Trevardo. You make it seem like Sio getting chosen was a consolation prize for UConn. It was not.
 
Nostical said:
Not true. He would have been invited had any player from any team been injured. It so happens it was Trevardo. You make it seem like Sio getting chosen was a consolation prize for UConn. It was not.
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Do you have a link that explains that?
 
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bigeastconf said:
Do you have a link that explains that?
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Who needs the link. Given what happened, it was pretty self evident.

Sio had made a bug impression with the scouts. The Scouts largely determine who gets into these games, that's the way it works. Obviously he was at the top of whatever order of merit existed.

This is the time of the year when the ESPN hype machine gives way to what the true professionals think of talent. The scouts don't take directions from Todd McShay, they are the ones Todd McShay seeks direction from..

Had they known more about him when the original invites gone out, he most definitely would have been in from jump street.
 
Nostical said:
Not true. He would have been invited had any player from any team been injured. It so happens it was Trevardo. You make it seem like Sio getting chosen was a consolation prize for UConn. It was not.
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bigeastconf said:
Do you have a link that explains that?
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huskymedic said:
Based on his performance @ the East/West Shrine game he was a shoe in if there was an i njury... I'll find the comment.
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Can't find the exact link for Sio but for example OT Terron Armstead from Arkansas-Pine Bluff replaced OT Dallas Thomas from Tennessee who was injured so it was same same replacement. They had TW tagged to play @ LB for Senior Bowl and he couldn't go - so they went to highest rated LB from East-West game for replacement. Coincidence that it was Husky for Husky.

http://www.pewterreport.com/index.php?option=com_k2&Itemid=20&view=item&layout=item&id=8731

"Before the start of Wednesday’s practice, the South team announced a couple of roster changes. Texas A&M wide receiver Ryan Swope suffered an injury and was replaced by LSU receiver Russell Shepard, Clemson running back Andre Ellington also sustained an injury at some point this week and was replaced by Miami running back Mike James and Arkansas Pine-Bluff offensive tackle Terron Armstead, who was fantastic last week at the East-West Shrine game, replaced offensive lineman Dallas Thomas of Tennessee."
 
Excalibur said:
Do you? Aren't you the one trying to prove something?
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No. Because that's not how I understood the situation to be, many posters are claiming that we have4 invites. We had three, lost one and added one, to me that's 3 total, but if there's a story to suggest otherwise and they've already read it, then post it.
 
bigeastconf said:
No. Because that's not how I understood the situation to be, many posters are claiming that we have4 invites. We had three, lost one and added one, to me that's 3 total, but if there's a story to suggest otherwise and they've already read it, then post it.
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We didn't "lose" one. One couldn't play so we gained one. Lots of players couldn't play for one reason or another and another player was invited to take their place. That doesnt mean that all of them, both invitees and acceptors, didnt recieve invites. Clearly, they all did. The fact that you can't understand that concept after all these posts is truly mind numbing.
 
bigeastconf said:
We had three, lost one and added one, to me that's 3 total.
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Bigeastconf, I'm not trying to be Tommy Technical here but we didn't lose an invite. We lost a participant. TW was injured. He could have been replaced by a LB from say, BYU. If that happened we would still have had 3----invitees. But because the next most coveted LB for the game (as perceived by scouts who saw him in the East West Shrine Game) happened to be Sio, he was added to the squad and became our 4th invitee.
Rather than quibble, lets all reflect again on this amazing fact: Alabama and Georgia had 5 invitees, Fla St and UConn had 4. That was a storyline that should have been front and center on the broadcast. We can't seem to get anyone's attention. If only Sio had an imaginary girlfriend....
 
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Nostical said:
Bigeastconf, I'm not trying to be Tommy Technical here but we didn't lose an invite. We lost a participant. TW was injured. He could have been replaced by a LB from say, BYU. If that happened we would still have had 3----invitees. But because the next most coveted LB for the game (as perceived by scouts who saw him in the East West Shrine Game) happened to be Sio, he was added to the squad and became our 4th invitee.
Rather than quibble, lets all reflect again on this amazing fact: Alabama and Georgia had 5 invitees, Fla St and UConn had 4. That was a storyline that should have been front and center on the broadcast. We can't seem to get anyone's attention. If only Sio had an imaginary girlfriend....
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Okay Nostical, we had 4 invites and 3 that played in the game, hope they do well at the combine.
 
Sio should have been a slam dunk invitee from the beginning anyway. He only made that clearer by playing really well.
 
So if you all want a semi-positive spin on this, look at the old SWC-Big 8 merger. Four teams were left out. Now the Big 12 has 10, but likes it's geography. The ACC has 14, but likes its geography. So two 10 team leagues merge, and have a championship game. 20 team league, with little more than a scheduling deal for the teams in each 10 playing one another in football. To do that...guess what, 4 teams need to be left out. Coincidentally, 3 teams have not even started play. So, the ACC folds into the B12, and boots Syracuse, Pitt, BC and Louisville. Now it's a southern-midwestern league, with two geographically logical pods.

Our Big East becomes a 14 team league, and clearly leaps past the MWC. Since the ACC is no longer distinct, we'd be in the 5th best conference.
 
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Notion of B12 - ACC alliance came from ND AD & Swofford. Introduced by Dodds to Bowlsby.
 
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