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oldude said:
Yes, you are correct. After hitting in 56 straight games, DiMaggio failed to get a hit in game #57, after which he got a hit in the next 16 straight games.......😎
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And I see the same on the horizon for Azzi... She is resilient and a great player...she will break out of it.
 
It appears that some of her missed shots are slightly off angle, meaning that her body positioning when she shoots is a bit off.........you can see the second she releases the ball that the shot is not going in.......most likely from rushing her shot just a touch or tired legs or both..............a pretty easy fix that I'm sure she's already considered...
 
Dogstar said:
Personally I believe it's in the spot where all jump shots begin.... the legs. She's been playing exceptional D this year and doing a lot of moving around on offense could be leg fatigue. Don't go messing around with her release bcus fundamentally it's the best I've seen, not just college basketball but in all of basketball. Curiosity makes me ask...
doesn't adjust and change mean the same thing?
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I think this is the misunderstanding. In no way, am I stating changing her shot, but adjusting. I look at it the way you see a medieval trebuchet. The form/shot is the same; it's when you release the stone/ball. You release the stone late, the trajectory is more horizontal, earlier, it's more vertical. The mechanics are the same. It's just a question of when.

Adjusting, meaning if I have a jump shot in the air against a 4' person vs. a 7' person, my arc/release point is going to change. Or else, my shot will be blocked. My mechanics are still the same.
 
Instead of altering her shot, she could improve or alter her shot selection by not heaving as many 3's when they'e not scoring.
That would mean that it's an issue concerning her decision making rather than her shot mechanics.

Geno could also rein her in by not allowing her such a long leash.
He could simply give her a breather and let her know how to adjust her game plan.
This could be about senior leadership & setting an example of how to sompensate when the 3's aren't scoring, and how the coaches want her to adjust the game plan to it.
For example, whether to implement Plan A or Plan B or Plan C.
That should be Geno's jurisdiction and what's discussed during time outs & rotations changes.
 
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sun said:
Instead of altering her shot, she could improve or alter her shot selection by not heaving as many 3's when they'e not dropping.
That would make it an issue of her decision making rather than her shot mechanics.

Geno could also rein her in by not allowing her such a long leash.
He could simply give her a breather and let her know how to adjust her game plan.
This could be about senior leadership & setting an example of how to sompensate when the 3's aren't falling, and how the coaches want her to adjust to it.
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They are encouraging her to shoot through her slump. Fortunately they are in the Big East where it's not a huge deal
 
hoy-ah! said:
I think this is the misunderstanding. In no way, am I stating changing her shot, but adjusting. I look at it the way you see a medieval trebuchet. The form/shot is the same; it's when you release the stone/ball. You release the stone late, the trajectory is more horizontal, earlier, it's more vertical. The mechanics are the same. It's just a question of when.

Adjusting, meaning if I have a jump shot in the air against a 4' person vs. a 7' person, my arc/release point is going to change. Or else, my shot will be blocked. My mechanics are still the same.
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1. She not going up against any 7 footers she's going to the WNBA not the NBA.
2. No one should ever try to shoot a jumper over a 7' person. He may not block it but he'll block ur look at the rim. Have you ever played organized BB? Just asking.
 
Dogstar said:
1. She not going up against any 7 footers she's going to the WNBA not the NBA.
2. No one should ever try to shoot a jumper over a 7' person. He may not block it but he'll block ur look at the rim. Have you ever played organized BB? Just asking.
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1. WNBA has close to 7' women, I noticed a SCar French player close to that height.
2. Your comment is that one should never shoot against a 7'. My comment was generic, about adjusting your shot given the circumstance (more arc). The game happens, and you find someone taller contesting your shot, and you adjust your shot. Yes, I've played hoops for over 4 decades in various leagues. In one league against a team with Christian Laettner's Duke back up. And yes, I adjusted my shot.
 
Azzi is shooting 100% from the foul line. She stands there and is set. When shes wide open she is set. IMO she misses because she doesnt get set. Coming off a pic or dribble she needs to get set and shoot. IMO the last thing you want to do is start changing her shot. The shot seems to be there when shes open. Another point start the game by taking shots inside the line not from deep. Run so plays for her with pull up jumpers from the free throw line would help.
 
hoy-ah! said:
Answers:

1. WNBA has close to 7' women, I noticed a SCar French player close to that height.
2. Your comment is that one should never shoot against a 7'. My comment was generic, about adjusting your shot given the circumstance (more arc). The game happens, and you find someone taller contesting your shot, and you adjust your shot. Yes, I've played hoops for over 4 decades in various leagues. In one league against a team with Christian Laettner's Duke back up. And yes, I adjusted my shot.
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I must say that your ideas on shooting are interesting, but not particularly realistic for a number of reasons.

SC’s Tournebize is reportedly somewhere between 6’5” - 6”7”, maybe an inch or so taller than Jana & Gandy, and she’s got a whole lot to learn before she becomes a capable college basketball player. That’s not “close to 7’” imo. While I acknowledge that the high floater is a real offensive weapon for a guard penetrating the paint when confronted by a BIG, that’s not what this thread is about.

Let’s get back to the original topic, Azzi’s 3-pt shooting. Bigs seldom if ever come out to defend the 3-pt line. If they do, any decent guard will pump fake, get them up in the air and either blow right by for a layup or get fouled in the act of shooting.
 
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oldude said:
I must say that your ideas on shooting are interesting, but not particularly realistic for a number of reasons.

SC’s Tournebize is reportedly somewhere between 6’5” - 6”7”, maybe an inch or so taller than Jana & Gandy, and she’s got a whole lot to learn before she becomes a capable college basketball player. That’s not “close to 7’” imo. While I acknowledge that the high floater is a real offensive weapon for a guard penetrating the paint when confronted by a BIG, that’s not what this thread is about.

Let’s get back to the original topic, Azzi’s 3-pt shooting. Bigs seldom if ever come out to defend the 3-pt line. If they do, any decent guard will pump fake, get them up in the air and either blow right by for a layup or get fouled in the act of shooting.
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In getting back to the original topic - why is Azzi not shooting as well from the 3 point range. I suggested "adjusting" her shot to put more arc/air under the ball. Others have responded to not "change" her shot, which I totally agree with. My examples have been broad as to why you need to adjust your shot to put more arc under the ball, using an analogy of shooting against a 4' vs. a 7'. The main point is "adjusting" vs. "changing". Your post has now focused on shooting from the 3 point line against a 7', which has strayed from the original topic, which is why is Azzi not shooting better from the 3pt line. (Guarded or unguarded). In all my posts, I've proposed adjusting the arc of her shot, not changing her shot. Her form/mechanic/technique is picture perfect.

For me, in game experience, when an opponent extends an arm/etc. into the air to block my shot, I adjust my shot to arc over that impediment. Whether this happens close up to the rim, at the 3pt line, etc. is immaterial. Whether the opponent is 7', 4' (with great hops), etc. is immaterial. I'm trying to get my shot off. I've "adjusted" my shot, not "changed" it. I didn't change my shot from Jerry West to Bob Cousy.

This is what I found from Google:

AI Overview

Adjust implies small, fine-tuning changes to improve fit or function (like adjusting a thermostat), while change is a broader term for any shift from one state to another, which can be minor or major (like a change of heart or a new job). Adjustments are often minor tweaks or tweaks, whereas changes can be fundamental, transforming something into something different.
 
hoy-ah! said:
In getting back to the original topic - why is Azzi not shooting as well from the 3 point range. I suggested "adjusting" her shot to put more arc/air under the ball. Others have responded to not "change" her shot, which I totally agree with. My examples have been broad as to why you need to adjust your shot to put more arc under the ball, using an analogy of shooting against a 4' vs. a 7'. The main point is "adjusting" vs. "changing". Your post has now focused on shooting from the 3 point line against a 7', which has strayed from the original topic, which is why is Azzi not shooting better from the 3pt line. (Guarded or unguarded). In all my posts, I've proposed adjusting the arc of her shot, not changing her shot. Her form/mechanic/technique is picture perfect.

For me, in game experience, when an opponent extends an arm/etc. into the air to block my shot, I adjust my shot to arc over that impediment. Whether this happens close up to the rim, at the 3pt line, etc. is immaterial. Whether the opponent is 7', 4' (with great hops), etc. is immaterial. I'm trying to get my shot off. I've "adjusted" my shot, not "changed" it. I didn't change my shot from Jerry West to Bob Cousy.

This is what I found from Google:

AI Overview

Adjust implies small, fine-tuning changes to improve fit or function (like adjusting a thermostat), while change is a broader term for any shift from one state to another, which can be minor or major (like a change of heart or a new job). Adjustments are often minor tweaks or tweaks, whereas changes can be fundamental, transforming something into something different.
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OK this is getting ridiculous. Azzi is currently 14th in the nation, shooting 43.61% from the arc. In what universe does that constitute, “not shooting well?”
 
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hoy-ah! said:
Answers:

1. WNBA has close to 7' women, I noticed a SCar French player close to that height.
2. Your comment is that one should never shoot against a 7'. My comment was generic, about adjusting your shot given the circumstance (more arc). The game happens, and you find someone taller contesting your shot, and you adjust your shot. Yes, I've played hoops for over 4 decades in various leagues. In one league against a team with Christian Laettner's Duke back up. And yes, I adjusted my shot.
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1. 7 footers in the W are very very rare, Griner was considered a giant in both college and the pros and watched the SC French girl she has height but needs to get used to the physical play of the game. Also Texas Tech has a 7' girl I thk.
2. Yes I said tht it's kinda unwise to try and shoot a JUMP shot over a 7' player if you don't get blocked he'll make you adjust ur shot and I'll bet you 10 to 1 tht whn you adjusted ur shot you missed, probably quite badly. There's other options.
2. I'll call ur Laettner and raise you my playing in the Great Hartford Pro-am against teams tht included
Kemba (I blocked his pull-up in the paint)
Shabazz
Doug Wiggins
A. J. Price
Ryan Gomes
Rick Mahorn and his brother Owen
Jeremy Lamb
Hasheen Thabeet
Ater Majok
Alex Oriakhi
Those are the ones I remember. So let's agree to disagree. Peace ✌🏾
 
oldude said:
I must say that your ideas on shooting are interesting, but not particularly realistic for a number of reasons.

SC’s Tournebize is reportedly somewhere between 6’5” - 6”7”, maybe an inch or so taller than Jana & Gandy, and she’s got a whole lot to learn before she becomes a capable college basketball player. That’s not “close to 7’” imo. While I acknowledge that the high floater is a real offensive weapon for a guard penetrating the paint when confronted by a BIG, that’s not what this thread is about.

Let’s get back to the original topic, Azzi’s 3-pt shooting. Bigs seldom if ever come out to defend the 3-pt line. If they do, any decent guard will pump fake, get them up in the air and either blow right by for a layup or get fouled in the act of shooting.
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Nailed it!...Could've said it better...and I've tried
 
WBBZen said:
Better a slump now than in March. I'm not really worried, shooters shoot and she will be back. Watch, she will drop 5 tomorrow or something. Talking about how she needs to change her shot is a little ridiculous at this point, as well.
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3/4 from 3. Close enough 😌
 
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hoy-ah! said:
In getting back to the original topic - why is Azzi not shooting as well from the 3 point range. I suggested "adjusting" her shot to put more arc/air under the ball. Others have responded to not "change" her shot, which I totally agree with. My examples have been broad as to why you need to adjust your shot to put more arc under the ball, using an analogy of shooting against a 4' vs. a 7'. The main point is "adjusting" vs. "changing". Your post has now focused on shooting from the 3 point line against a 7', which has strayed from the original topic, which is why is Azzi not shooting better from the 3pt line. (Guarded or unguarded). In all my posts, I've proposed adjusting the arc of her shot, not changing her shot. Her form/mechanic/technique is picture perfect.

For me, in game experience, when an opponent extends an arm/etc. into the air to block my shot, I adjust my shot to arc over that impediment. Whether this happens close up to the rim, at the 3pt line, etc. is immaterial. Whether the opponent is 7', 4' (with great hops), etc. is immaterial. I'm trying to get my shot off. I've "adjusted" my shot, not "changed" it. I didn't change my shot from Jerry West to Bob Cousy.

This is what I found from Google:

AI Overview

Adjust implies small, fine-tuning changes to improve fit or function (like adjusting a thermostat), while change is a broader term for any shift from one state to another, which can be minor or major (like a change of heart or a new job). Adjustments are often minor tweaks or tweaks, whereas changes can be fundamental, transforming something into something different.
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Not to be rude - but Enough!! You have stated your case. You can see not much agreement with your thesis.
 
huskeynut said:
Not to be rude - but Enough!! You have stated your case. You can see not much agreement with your thesis.
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Seriously? A topic was raised, I provided my view. Other posters responded, and I looked to provide more input for them to see my viewpoint for clarification. I understand their positions (and, I don't seek to attack them...one poster asked: Have you played basketball?). Now it's not a lot of people agree/disagree with you? I'm not looking to be right or wrong, just stating my thought(s). I'm not looking for popularity either.

Stay warm and safe everyone...
 
To paraphrase Mark Twain, after today's game, the rumors of Azzi's problem with the 3 ball is grossly exaggerated.
 
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