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They need to name a new AD before they name a new coach. Rumors of Nick Carparelli taking the job. Cheshire guy. WPI guy then Syracuse grad school

Have to let the new AD make the decision.
 
Huskyforlife said:
It’s obviously gonna be Hodgson, they won’t go for the Boehiem guy again, and it won’t be a first time head coach(Young/Murray). I would be beyond shocked if it’s anyone else.
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This is correct, and the reason that I will be rooting for Siena to make a big Cinderella run (unless of course they go up against the good guys)
 
One of the problems facing programs trying to find a coach in 2026 is that "turning around" mid-major programs isn't as impressive as it used to be. If you're in a league like the Sun Belt, AAC, or even A10, pretty much every half decent roster is going to get raided every offseason. That means all it takes for a coach to succeed is finding a program that has slightly more resources than everyone else, and boom, you're at the top of your league. But you're only at the top because somebody has to be.

That's not to say someone like Hodgson or McNamara can't coach (Hodgson having USF on the cusp of the top 50 is impressive no matter how you spin it), but it's a BIG step up from the lower levels to the major leagues now - even more than it used to be.

I know half this board is clamoring for UConn to join the Big 12, but I think this Cuse coaching search is pretty instructive of how conference can make a program more or less attractive. Cuse is a huge brand with one of the biggest fanbases in the sport, and yet its top candidates as of now are all guys with little to no head coaching experience. That's a recipe for disaster in a league where you're a second class citizen at best.
 
I would think hiring someone with no head coaching experience to replace a coach who had no head coaching experience and failed would be a risky move for Syracuse.

I'm fully aware that we will lose both Luke and Kimani at some point, but they are in interesting situations as a) they won't take a job just to say they are head coach. It will need to be where they won't be setup to fail, which eliminates about 1/3 of the power conference schools and 70% or so mid-majors. They also are compensated well enough that a number of mid-major jobs could be a step down in pay.
 
superjohn said:
I agree it's going to be Hodgson but I don't agree with all the Cuse people saying it needs to be him, he's a star, and he's the no brainer choice.

Guy has been a head coach for three seasons and he took over a USF program that was 16-2 in the American and who was ranked at the end of the season. They had tragedy with the passing of Abdur-Rahim but he wasn't taking over a dumpster fire. He took over a program that already was turned around by the previous coach.
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That’s all true. He was a star assistant at UB and Bama with Oats, then made Arkansas State good and now has continued with USF, so his track record is more sturdy and consistently upwards. Add in that he’s supposedly a Cuse fan and from up this way, and not a Boeheim disciple, it’s a home run for them as fans.
 
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boog204 said:
That being said, if I'm 'Cuse, I'm absolutely going after someone with experience and not a first-time head coach, regardless of their Asst pedigree. Hodgson is someone I'd definitely be interested in if I were 'Cuse. He's young, he's won at both schools he's been at, has Final Four experience as an assistant with 'Bama, where he was apparently the lead recruiter, and he's pretty local to 'Cuse.
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Why would he need FF experience to coach at Cuse?😉
 
Skiblets said:
They need to name a new AD before they name a new coach. Rumors of Nick Carparelli taking the job. Cheshire guy. WPI guy then Syracuse grad school

Have to let the new AD make the decision.
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Do they name the new AD before Hack retires? The best coaches will be poached by then
 
businesslawyer said:
Huh? You're not disagreeing with me. Given that Luke has never been a head coach anywhere, even a mediocre power conference program is a great first job. (And, based on the Dome and the history, while Syracuse has been mediocre you can easily argue it's an above average power conference job.) It would be a good first job for Luke precisely because they could easily get someone like James Jones. who has already won at a lower level of division 1.
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Good points. I don't think they have enough money right now to pay a big name coach AND pay top recruits in their 3 major NIL sports (Fball and M&W Bball)
But collectives seem to dissolve and form, just like that. Every new season we will see a Vandy- St johns- Nebraska pop up.
 
Id be ok with watching gmac flame out miserably coaching the fruit
 
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Sources: Syracuse is targeting Toledo’s Bryan Blair as the school’s new athletic director, with a deal expected in the near future. Blair has been the AD at Toledo since 2022 and has previous stops at Washington State (Deputy AD/COO), Rice and South Carolina.

They are trying to be more like us.
 
Enrique said:
Kim English or even Ed Cooley would fit in nicely at Syracuse.
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I glanced at a thread where it seemed there was a non-zero sentiment that they wanted South Florida’s coach
 
Good ol Dookie V advocating for Bobby Hurley to get the job on twitter. Would be hilarious to watch the complete meltdown on their board.
 
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Palatine said:
Sources: Syracuse is targeting Toledo’s Bryan Blair as the school’s new athletic director, with a deal expected in the near future. Blair has been the AD at Toledo since 2022 and has previous stops at Washington State (Deputy AD/COO), Rice and South Carolina.

They are trying to be more like us.
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Iron Sheik will NOT be happy with the hiring of that jabroni!
 
boog204 said:
I agree and disagree. If you are Murray or Young, you probably won't do any better than Cuse. They've struggled and everything else, but that's a team that has a major history. Why go and win at a mid-major or something so that you can get a bottom-feeder job at one of the power conferences and get fired in three years? Syracuse basketball still carries some weight, and I think it would be an easier rebuild there than going to a Rutgers-type school.
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The problems at Syracuse are not just related to coaching basketball. They need to revamp the whole program, everything from NIL to analytics. Here's a fun fact: How many times has Syracuse played in MSG in the past 8 years? Once! How does the AD at Syracuse let that happen? They should be playing a game at MSG every year.

If I were Murray or Young, I would target a school like VCU, George Mason, USF for my first head coaching job. I would think Providence is easier to turn around than Syracuse and the program is in decent shape, but Providence needs a better game coach.
 
superjohn said:
What bigger name programs are out there that need a coach? How many programs are a bigger name than Syracuse in all of college basketball?
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Bigger name to fans who've been around a long time, but anyone under 30 probably has no idea they once were a power in the best basketball conference during the 80's to the breakup.
 
boog204 said:
If you are Murray or Young, you probably won't do any better than Cuse. They've struggled and everything else, but that's a team that has a major history. Why go and win at a mid-major or something so that you can get a bottom-feeder job at one of the power conferences and get fired in three years?
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The question would be whether you think you can actually be successful at Syracuse. If you don't believe the pieces are in place to allow you to be successful then why take a high profile failure?

boog204 said:
I think it would be an easier rebuild there than going to a Rutgers-type school
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That's an interesting question. I'm not 100% convinced that Syracuse is a better job, notwithstanding its history under Beoheim. Rutgers is in the Big Ten, obviously a better conference than the ACC, particularly in conference payout. They've also recently shown decent NIL support. The right coach might be able to make something happen there, though, it's always foolish to underestimate Rutgers ability to find a way to fail.
 
milards said:
Good ol Dookie V advocating for Bobby Hurley to get the job on twitter. Would be hilarious to watch the complete meltdown on their board.
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Honestly, that's not the worst idea. I've heard floated. Sure, he didn't exactly light the world on fire at Arizona State, but Syracuse isn't all that great a job. It lets Hurley reestablish himself on the East Coast, where he has better connections, albeit in Canada, and let's Syracuse look like they're a desirable job that attracts high profile, or at least well-known, candidates.

I wouldn't mind a little Hurley vs. Hurley action in the preseason at MSG, either. That's a game that would definitely get eyeballs.
 
CL82 said:
The question would be whether you think you can actually be successful at Syracuse. If you don't believe the pieces are in place to allow you to be successful then why take a high profile failure?


That's an interesting question. I'm not 100% convinced that Syracuse is a better job, notwithstanding its history under Beoheim. Rutgers is in the Big Ten, obviously a better conference than the ACC, particularly in conference payout. They've also recently shown decent NIL support. The right coach might be able to make something happen there, though, it's always foolish to underestimate Rutgers ability to find a way to fail.
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It’s a calculated risk, but I’d go Cuse for sure. There’s still a lot you can sell, repair some relationships, etc.

And, is there a better anticipated opening? KState, GTech, BCU, PC, ASU are all open now. I think Cuse is the best job of those. You could def argue KState because of conference and NIL, I guess. Kentucky would be a better job, but they’d never consider a first time coach.
 
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lolol ol' jimmy B trying to throw the players under the bus:

www.espn.com

Jim Boeheim says Syracuse players cost Adrian Autry his job

Jim Boeheim defended Adrian Autry as "a good coach," saying his dismissal at Syracuse was a result of poor performance by the Orange's best players and lack of NIL funding.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Can't be his hand-selected replacement who sucks...must be the players that coach brought on....oh wait...
 
I can't see Cuse hiring Murray. He would need to be a proven head coach first to get a big job like that. Cuse needs to hire someone that's already proven to be a winning head coach. GMac fits that description.

Murray and Young should be looking for high mid major jobs or lower level power school jobs. Syracuse is too big for a first head coaching job. Syracuse needs to get this right, they can't take that chance.
 
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Hoophound said:
I can't see Cuse hiring Murray. He would need to be a proven head coach first to get a big job like that. Cuse needs to hire someone that's already proven to be a winning head coach. GMac fits that description.

Murray and young should be looking for high mid major jobs or lower level power school jobs. Syracuse is too big for a first head coaching job. Syracuse needs to get this right, they can't take that chance.
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I 100% agree. Just was saying Luke and Kimani should take that if offered over purposely looking Mid-Major and bounce to somewhere more “stable,”
 
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