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Autry out at Syracuse

REB1094 said:
Right decision to get rid of him instead of extending the suffering

Syracuse hasn’t made the tournament since a fluke run in 2018. Since moving to the ACC, they have an equal amount of double digit finishes in conference than top 5 finishes (2 each). This is a team that is limping and not operating from a position of strength, they need to nail this hire and start a full rebuilding job

The home run hire is Schertz, but he will likely pick a bigger name program. The rest of their top options are former players Hop and GMac? Lots of uncertainty ahead!
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What bigger name programs are out there that need a coach? How many programs are a bigger name than Syracuse in all of college basketball?
 
businesslawyer said:
For all its flaws, if we’re being serious Syracuse would be a great first job for Luke. Or, frankly, for any coach.
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Honestly, tradition aside, I'm not so sure. I do think it's a good fit for Kimani. I just as soon it didn't happen though.

I'm amazed we've kept them for as long as we have, and it wouldn't surprise me for them to get serious offers this off-season.
 
There are boosters, members of the BoT at Syracuse, and reportedly, Carmelo Anthony, who want Hopkins - supposedly because he is claiming behind the scenes that he can raise major $$$ and NIL funds. I would love to see a Hop hire because he’s not a good coach and has zero ties to East coast recruiting now, but I doubt it will happen.

Hodgson worries me a bit because I believe he could have some success early. GMac simply isn’t happening. They aren’t hiring another coach after Autry from the JB tree. Simply won’t happen.

I can’t imagine why anyone on the yard would want to see Kimani in upstate NY. He would kill it recruiting the Northeast and create serious buzz. Luke too. No thanks.
 
superjohn said:
What bigger name programs are out there that need a coach? How many programs are a bigger name than Syracuse in all of college basketball?
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There is a negative aura hanging over that program. IDK if it's being an odd duck in the ACC, Boeheim strangling them in his final years, or just all the losing. This hire feels critical for them to get close to what they were again
 
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I have no idea who Josh Schertz is, but winning 80% of your games is pretty damn impressive, regardless of level.
 
boog204 said:
I have no idea who Josh Schertz is, but winning 80% of your games is pretty damn impressive, regardless of level.
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Seems like St. Louis is going to really up his contract and he's going to stay there and wait for a top tier job.
 
I think Murray and Young should target a mid major school that has advantages over their conference mates so that they can develop as a head coach. I think it is a big ask to turn around Syracuse as a first time head coach which has a multitude of program issues that need to be addressed.

A school like Syracuse needs to hire a coach with a proven track record of winning like Villanova did with Willard.
 
BFieldHusky said:
Wish I saw this! What exactly did he say @superjohn?
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I saw it too - i couldn’t dislike that guy more.

He said Syracuse has the 3rd lowest NIL budget and their 2 best players played poorly this year. “Any program would have a down year if that’s the case. If Boozer and Evans both had down years, Duke would be down. I think Adrian is a good coach but he knows this falls on the HC when that happens.”

What a clown. He’s the reason Autry got the job when he probably didn’t deserve it. Not surprised he stuck up for him but he’s always gotta be a pr**k about everything.
 
businesslawyer said:
For all its flaws, if we’re being serious Syracuse would be a great first job for Luke. Or, frankly, for any coach.
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Why so?

Even with Boeheim, they've been, at best, mediocre since joining the ACC. If you're a 5* recruit, you're hoping to be OAD; nonetheless, why spend the single year in Syracuse (even if you’re from the Northeast), if you're also being recruited by, say, Duke, UNC, or another ACC school? Even Carmelo Anthony’s kid, a 4* freshman, is probably leaving after this year.

At the same time, if they’re throwing out names like Jay Wright, Billy Donovan, and Brad Stevens, the expectations for the new coach are wildly unrealistic, e.g., top echelon finish in ACC, NCAA at-large bid, etc. So why would this quagmire be a great first job for Luke Murray?

If anything, I’d be looking for a successful, mid-major head coach with a history of recruiting success in the Northeast. For example, Scott Burrell at Southern Connecticut has won more than 170 games in 11 years; James Jones has won almost 440 games at Yale.

[and I say all this as a Syracuse alum!]
 
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Mr. French said:
I saw it too - i couldn’t dislike that guy more.

He said Syracuse has the 3rd lowest NIL budget and their 2 best players played poorly this year. “Any program would have a down year if that’s the case. If Boozer and Evans both had down years, Duke would be down. I think Adrian is a good coach but he knows this falls on the HC when that happens.”

What a clown. He’s the reason Autry got the job when he probably didn’t deserve it. Not surprised he stuck up for him but he’s always gotta be a pr**k about everything.
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He wasn't even charitable enough to say "played poorly." He said they were horrible or played horrible this season.

He's such a jack off.
 
Something is wrong with the Syaracse AD if Hodgson is not their next coach. You won't find a more Upstate NY guy. His time under Nate Oats as well as two successful HC jobs is a better resume than McNamara or most others listed.
 
Next in line is probably either Gerry McNamara or Mike Hopkins...my $$$ is on McNamara
 
Mr. French said:
I saw it too - i couldn’t dislike that guy more.

He said Syracuse has the 3rd lowest NIL budget and their 2 best players played poorly this year. “Any program would have a down year if that’s the case. If Boozer and Evans both had down years, Duke would be down. I think Adrian is a good coach but he knows this falls on the HC when that happens.”

What a clown. He’s the reason Autry got the job when he probably didn’t deserve it. Not surprised he stuck up for him but he’s always gotta be a pr**k about everything.
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Who are their two best players supposed to be?
 
Jeff Borzello says the three names he's hearing are (McNamara, Schertz, Hodgson) and another name to watch is Luke Murray.
 
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HooperScooper said:
"This is one of the most storied programs in college basketball, and we intend to hire a proven winner who will build on that legacy," Syracuse athletic director John Wildhack said in a statement. "We are looking for a coach who can recruit at the highest level, develop players and compete for championships, conference and national. Syracuse fans deserve nothing less, and that is exactly what we are going to deliver."

www.espn.com

Syracuse fires coach Adrian Autry after missing NCAAs again

Syracuse has fired men's basketball coach Adrian Autry after the Orange did not make the NCAA tournament in his three seasons at the helm.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
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I would venture to say that the past three years are what Syracuse fans truly deserve.
 
amishboy said:
Why so?

Even with Boeheim, they've been, at best, mediocre since joining the ACC. If you're a 5* recruit, you're hoping to be OAD; nonetheless, why spend the single year in Syracuse (even if you’re from the Northeast), if you're also being recruited by, say, Duke, UNC, or another ACC school? Even Carmelo Anthony’s kid, a 4* freshman, is probably leaving after this year.

At the same time, if they’re throwing out names like Jay Wright, Billy Donovan, and Brad Stevens, the expectations for the new coach are wildly unrealistic, e.g., top echelon finish in ACC, NCAA at-large bid, etc. So why would this quagmire be a great first job for Luke Murray?

If anything, I’d be looking for a successful, mid-major head coach with a history of recruiting success in the Northeast. For example, Scott Burrell at Southern Connecticut has won more than 170 games in 11 years; James Jones has won almost 440 games at Yale.

[and I say all this as a Syracuse alum!]
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Huh? You're not disagreeing with me. Given that Luke has never been a head coach anywhere, even a mediocre power conference program is a great first job. (And, based on the Dome and the history, while Syracuse has been mediocre you can easily argue it's an above average power conference job.) It would be a good first job for Luke precisely because they could easily get someone like James Jones. who has already won at a lower level of division 1.
 
One prime candidate

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REB1094 said:
Right decision to get rid of him instead of extending the suffering

Syracuse hasn’t made the tournament since a fluke run in 2018. Since moving to the ACC, they have an equal amount of double digit finishes in conference than top 5 finishes (2 each). This is a team that is limping and not operating from a position of strength, they need to nail this hire and start a full rebuilding job

The home run hire is Schertz, but he will likely pick a bigger name program. The rest of their top options are former players Hop and GMac? Lots of uncertainty ahead!
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They made the sweet 16 in 2021.
 
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superjohn said:
Jeff Borzello says the three names he's hearing are (McNamara, Schertz, Hodgson) and another name to watch is Luke Murray.
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Borzello has probably been reading those 3 names from insiders on the Cuse board for the last three months. Josh Schertz has already turned down K-State thru back channels and is looking for a much better situation than he would find at Syracuse. It’s going to be Hodgson unless someone with major muscle on the BoT forces the Hop decision.

FWIW, Wildhack is out on July 1 and his replacement hasn’t been chosen. There’s an open HR complaint filed against Heather Lyke, who is being considered for the job. Total mess. Anyone taking the HC job is rolling the dice if the open AD spot isn’t resolved prior.
 
Huskyforlife said:
It’s obviously gonna be Hodgson, they won’t go for the Boehiem guy again, and it won’t be a first time head coach(Young/Murray). I would be beyond shocked if it’s anyone else.
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I think the only way it's not Hodgson would be if he picks elsewhere, and I don't think he's picking elsewhere.
 
Hodgson reps my tiny little undergrad and my main grad school, so I’m excited for him. But being in WNY and attending Cuse for grad school for a year, while being a UConn fan, I’m a bit torn because I like them being envious of our success. But lots of WNY people in my era grew up loving Cuse so Hodgson apparently is in that ilk.
 
Huskyforlife said:
It’s obviously gonna be Hodgson, they won’t go for the Boehiem guy again, and it won’t be a first time head coach(Young/Murray). I would be beyond shocked if it’s anyone else.
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I agree it's going to be Hodgson but I don't agree with all the Cuse people saying it needs to be him, he's a star, and he's the no brainer choice.

Guy has been a head coach for three seasons and he took over a USF program that was 16-2 in the American and who was ranked at the end of the season. They had tragedy with the passing of Abdur-Rahim but he wasn't taking over a dumpster fire. He took over a program that already was turned around by the previous coach.
 
UConnJim said:
I think Murray and Young should target a mid major school that has advantages over their conference mates so that they can develop as a head coach. I think it is a big ask to turn around Syracuse as a first time head coach which has a multitude of program issues that need to be addressed.

A school like Syracuse needs to hire a coach with a proven track record of winning like Villanova did with Willard.
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I agree and disagree. If you are Murray or Young, you probably won't do any better than Cuse. They've struggled and everything else, but that's a team that has a major history. Why go and win at a mid-major or something so that you can get a bottom-feeder job at one of the power conferences and get fired in three years? Syracuse basketball still carries some weight, and I think it would be an easier rebuild there than going to a Rutgers-type school.

That being said, if I'm 'Cuse, I'm absolutely going after someone with experience and not a first-time head coach, regardless of their Asst pedigree. Hodgson is someone I'd definitely be interested in if I were 'Cuse. He's young, he's won at both schools he's been at, has Final Four experience as an assistant with 'Bama, where he was apparently the lead recruiter, and he's pretty local to 'Cuse.
 
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