Arizona (12) @ Oregon St (9) - 2/09/20

[nwhoopfan]

65-58 final. Good win for Arizona, pathetic game by OSU. They just aren't that good this year. I don't know what the problem is.

Slocum 4-18 from the floor.

McDonald w/ 22, McBryde 19 and Reese 13. For OSU...who cares.

 

[Plebe]

I had a feeling that Oregon State would have a hangover from celebrating their win over ASU.

Great win for Arizona.

 

[Wbbfan1]

How would you like to be hosting and have Oregon St as a 5 Seed? Oregon St is probably a 4 Seed after this loss, but if they're not careful, they'll end up as a 5 Seed and not hosting.

 

[nwhoopfan]

How would you like to be hosting and have Oregon St as a 5 Seed?

The way they've been playing, that's not all that scary.

 

[Plebe]

How would you like to be hosting and have Oregon St as a 5 Seed? Oregon St is probably a 4 Seed after this loss, but if they're not careful, they'll end up as a 5 Seed and not hosting.

Oregon State was #9 overall in the reveal. One loss to the #13 team isn't going to drop them to a 4 seed. What it does probably do is move Arizona up to the 3 line, especially since Gonzaga lost yesterday.

 

[domerduck]

65-58 final. Good win for Arizona, pathetic game by OSU. They just aren't that good this year. I don't know what the problem is.

Slocum 4-18 from the floor.

McDonald w/ 22, McBryde 19 and Reese 13. For OSU...who cares.

Just got back from the game. They missed Brown who was on crutches. Joes plays off her so well, Adia adjusted well on her after she scored 6 of the 1st 8 then only 2 more the rest of the game and OT. Didn't play that well.

 

[Floridaduck]

Beavs still have Stanford and UCLA on the road. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

 

[DaBball]

Just got back from the game. They missed Brown who was on crutches. Joes plays off her so well, Adia adjusted well on her after she scored 6 of the 1st 8 then only 2 more the rest of the game and OT. Didn't play that well.

They helped off a lot and she got blocked or turned it over quite a bit. Not her best performance.

 

[Wbbfan1]

Charlie in his latest Bracketology had Oregon St has a #3 Seed. That's why I said they probably drop to a 4 seed.

Oregon State was #9 overall in the reveal. One loss to the #13 team isn't going to drop them to a 4 seed. What it does probably do is move Arizona up to the 3 line, especially since Gonzaga lost yesterday.

 

[Plebe]

Charlie in his latest Bracketology had Oregon St has a #3 Seed. That's why I said they probably drop to a 4 seed.

But they were the highest #3 seed, and a loss to the highest #4 seed isn't really a bad loss, and it certainly won't drop them below Gonzaga, who just took a really bad loss.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Rueck lost his cool after this one. Bordering on a fine, I would think.

anyone who watched have thoughts?

 

[Plebe]

Ha I just knew Rueck would have an issue with Arizona, who plays every bit as physical as ASU does.

 

[Shades]

 

[TheFarmFan]

Rueck lost his cool after this one. Bordering on a fine, I would think.

anyone who watched have thoughts?

I didn't get a chance to catch this game, but folks on the Stanford board were saying the same after the UCLA and U$C games, especially the folks who were watching in person, where you can hear (and sometimes even *feel* if you're seated up close) the players hit the deck. I think there's a brewing consensus that the refs are letting way too much contact go uncalled this season, and as it has progressed players have realized they have the green light to keep pushing the Overton window (as it were) on physical play.

Lord knows I've been the loudest and most vocal critic of the Missy loose whistle style of ticky tacky foul calling, but wow, the refs seem to have gone too far in the other direction this season.

My suspicion is that Rueck is especially PO'd because OSU has always been susceptible to really physical teams, and after the Kennedy Brown injury, I can see why he'd be doubly concerned.

 

[nwhoopfan]

Rueck lost his cool after this one. Bordering on a fine, I would think.

anyone who watched have thoughts?

Graves expressed the same thoughts during his halftime interview today.

 

[newfrontier]

OSU was very tired in the second half...and missing Kennedy Brown hurt, no doubt. The lack of depth and very physical game contributed to the loss. Rueck is likely to get fined...he really laid into the refereeing.

 

[Figurehead]

Yes Graves said the same but Rueck was much more vocal and to the point. I stand with Scott on this.

Graves felt he earned his second technical of the season.

“I didn’t care,” he said. “I wanted to play a basketball game. ... I thought actually tonight we fed off that. We played with some edge tonight and really hard."

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

I didn't get a chance to catch this game, but folks on the Stanford board were saying the same after the UCLA and U$C games, especially the folks who were watching in person, where you can hear (and sometimes even *feel* if you're seated up close) the players hit the deck. I think there's a brewing consensus that the refs are letting way too much contact go uncalled this season, and as it has progressed players have realized they have the green light to keep pushing the Overton window (as it were) on physical play.

Lord knows I've been the loudest and most vocal critic of the Missy loose whistle style of ticky tacky foul calling, but wow, the refs seem to have gone too far in the other direction this season.

My suspicion is that Rueck is especially PO'd because OSU has always been susceptible to really physical teams, and after the Kennedy Brown injury, I can see why he'd be doubly concerned.

I have had a problem with some aspects of the PAC 12 officiating for years. You can slam and push someone all over the court - especially in a loose ball situation - but can get called for really really tacky fouls. I've always found them (generally) consistent, but it isn't how it is called in other conferences.

 

[Figurehead]

Why is P-12 refs different? How many coaches in the P-12 agree with that and if it is a majority could they adress it during the off season with Larry Scott the P-12 commish?

 

[bballnut90]

65-58 final. Good win for Arizona, pathetic game by OSU. They just aren't that good this year. I don't know what the problem is.

Slocum 4-18 from the floor.

McDonald w/ 22, McBryde 19 and Reese 13. For OSU...who cares.

They werent that good last year either. They have some good players but havent been able to get it done this season. Arizona schools are better than expected and OSU appears to be a step behind Oregon/Stanford/UCLA. Curious how they'd do in the SEC, ACC or Big Ten.

 

[Plebe]

They werent that good last year either. They have some good players but havent been able to get it done this season. Arizona schools are better than expected and OSU appears to be a step behind Oregon/Stanford/UCLA. Curious how they'd do in the SEC, ACC or Big Ten.

I don't know if it's quite that dire. They've just lost some really close games -- to Stanford, to ASU, and now to Arizona. Even both of the Oregon games were relatively competitive. I think Friday's win over ASU might be the only really close game they've managed to pull out (despite Rueck's unparalleled genius at end-of-game situations).

Going into today's game, Oregon State was #10 in Massey and Arizona was #11. For them to lose in overtime is hardly a huge or disastrous upset.

In terms of games I'd like to see: Oregon State vs. Mississippi State. Let's make it happen.

 

[DefenseBB]

I have watched a lot of the PAC12 games this year and even watching this game as my signature Sunday game, I didn't think it was that physical but maybe I am getting used to it. I do agree ASU is very aggressive and so is USC. I actually thought the UCLA-Cal game was more physical tonight. This game had a lot of fouls called in it so I do think after awhile the refs stop calling anything even if there are fouls. This was a good game and Arizona made shots when they need to and OSU did not. Both are really good teams and I suspect either of them could finish 2nd-5th.

 

[nwhoopfan]

They werent that good last year either.

They hit a swoon down the stretch last year, I thought they were fairly good most of the season. Had a nice stretch when they beat Oregon and UCLA.

 

[DaBball]

I don't know if it's quite that dire. They've just lost some really close games -- to Stanford, to ASU, and now to Arizona. Even both of the Oregon games were relatively competitive. I think Friday's win over ASU might be the only really close game they've managed to pull out (despite Rueck's unparalleled genius at end-of-game situations).

Going into today's game, Oregon State was #10 in Massey and Arizona was #11. For them to lose in overtime is hardly a huge or disastrous upset.

In terms of games I'd like to see: Oregon State vs. Mississippi State. Let's make it happen.

Their game at Arizona was very close too. Interesting how all four of their games against the Arizona schools pretty much came down to the wire.

 

[Figurehead]

I don't know if it's quite that dire. They've just lost some really close games -- to Stanford, to ASU, and now to Arizona. Even both of the Oregon games were relatively competitive. I think Friday's win over ASU might be the only really close game they've managed to pull out (despite Rueck's unparalleled genius at end-of-game situations).

Going into today's game, Oregon State was #10 in Massey and Arizona was #11. For them to lose in overtime is hardly a huge or disastrous upset.

In terms of games I'd like to see: Oregon State vs. Mississippi State. Let's make it happen.

Your right about Massey.

 

[Gamecockfan77]

Men and women's game, I've gotten so tired of how much attention is paid to offensive fouls and incidental contact out at the perimeter.

And then, officials seem to want to let rough work in the post and murders on drives go.

It's like someone in the rules committee has set out to make the game less enjoyable.

There is nothing more infuriating then watching the ball handler get crushed at the rim with no call.

I truly hate how far player control fouls have been adjusted to benefit the defense. Nothing is more detrimental to offense in college than that.

 

[azfan]

Kudos to Coach Barnes and the Cats. Fine defensive effort and persistence by the Wildcats on the road. Barnes is in the process of building a program that's going to challenge the top of the conference. While she is has scorers on this team her defense first approach is really working.

If McDonald returns for her senior year and Destiny Pitts picks Tucson I think they're going to be very tough next year. Particularly if Reese continues her development.

 

[nwhoopfan]

If McDonald returns for her senior year and Destiny Pitts picks Tucson I think they're going to be very tough next year. Particularly if Reese continues her development.

Pitts would have to sit out at least half a season wouldn't she? They already have Pellington formerly of Oklahoma sitting out as a RS this year. I think Pueyo's development is important too. She's maybe hit the Fr. wall recently but has been a nice player for them.

 

[Shades]

Pitts would have to sit out at least half a season wouldn't she? They already have Pellington formerly of Oklahoma sitting out as a RS this year. I think Pueyo's development is important too. She's maybe hit the Fr. wall recently but has been a nice player for them.

Unless she gets a waiver.

 

[Wabisabi]

Rueck lost his cool after this one. Bordering on a fine, I would think.

anyone who watched have thoughts?

Sorry Scott but this one is on your team not the refs. Most know that in order to beat the Arizona schools you have to hit your 3's at a decent percentage. OSU had plenty of open looks but could only hit 24%.