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Aresco talks more about the new American deal with ESPN

Palatine said:
My guess is that Eastern Carolina is somewhere near the ocean in North Carolina.

I have no idea where Creighton or Butler are located.
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Creighton is in Omaha, Nebraska. Butler is in Indianapolis.
 
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CL82 said:
I agree with this but that doesn't mean that we aren't committed to football. It means that our admin is way too high (above average for P5 programs.)
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It doesn't help the bean counting numbers when we pay rent to the state for games played at PAWS-ARF and the Xtra Large Center. That's beyond insane...state money going from one state pocket into another state pocket. What's the point?
 
UConnNick said:
I'm clueless, but you argue that Creighton, DePaul, Marquette, Butler and Xavier are all "a quick drive away"? Even Philadelphia and Washington DC don't exactly qualify as quick drives. That leaves three schools out of 10 that are. If driving distances have anything to do with it we should join the America East.

The NBE schools have small numbers of alumni and relatively small fanbases. The only schools in the AAC that are comparable are Tulsa, SMU and Tulane. The rest of the AAC consists of schools with huge alumni numbers and fanbases, which generate far better interest and TV ratings. The NBE has been losing ratings battles with women's games in the same time slots. You "back to the new Big Leasters" just don't get it and apparently never will. I'll agree to disagree, and I'm done responding to nostalgic fantasies.
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Yes, I'm arguing that a school in Nebraska is a quick bus ride and not Providence, NYC, NJ, Philly, or DC.

Again, are you enrolling in the school, teaching there, or praying? I'm a college hoop fan so as long as your program has some tradition and a decent home court environment I could care less about being a small private school or a big state school.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Yes, I'm arguing that a school in Nebraska is a quick bus ride and not Providence, NYC, NJ, Philly, or DC.

Again, are you enrolling in the school, teaching there, or praying? I'm a college hoop fan so as long as your program has some tradition and a decent home court environment I could care less about being a small private school or a big state school.
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As we learned from the Big East, small privates have different needs, goals and world views than large land grant colleges. Many here are wary of repeating past mistakes.
 
CL82 said:
As we learned from the Big East, small privates have different needs, goals and world views than large land grant colleges. Many here are wary of repeating past mistakes.
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So if UConn drops football and joins the Big East basketball league, what exactly what the conflict of interests possibly be?
 
ConnHuskBask said:
So if UConn drops football and joins the Big East basketball league, what exactly what the conflict of interests possibly be?
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Who knows? T3 rights? NCAA credit distribution? The thing is that we won't fit in the NBE all that much better than we do in the American and that's a problem.

But giving up a shot at rejoining the big boys at the CR (which we are starting see smoke about) and taking less money, doesn't seem like a power move to me.
 
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CL82 said:
As we learned from the Big East, small privates have different needs, goals and world views than large land grant colleges. Many here are wary of repeating past mistakes.
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If history taught us anything, mixing together basketball only schools with football schools is a model that didn't work, and never will work. That's the reason I was opposed to letting Wichita St. into the AAC. You're just asking for the same kind of trouble that got us into the situation we're presently in.

I'm also amused that those advocating that we join the NBE seem to believe it's a slam dunk that we'll be welcomed with open arms, like it's a done deal yesterday. That's laughable. They interviewed NBE commish Val Ackerman at halftime of a game during the season before last and her response to that question was very tepid. Paraphrasing, she basically intimated that she'd have to see us take a wrecking ball to Pratt & Whitney Stadium before the league would even be mildly interested in entertaining the notion of UCONN joining the NBE.
 
UConnNick said:
If history taught us anything, mixing together basketball only schools with football schools is a model that didn't work, and never will work. That's the reason I was opposed to letting Wichita St. into the AAC. You're just asking for the same kind of trouble that got us into the situation we're presently in.

I'm also amused that those advocating that we join the NBE seem to believe it's a slam dunk that we'll be welcomed with open arms, like it's a done deal yesterday. That's laughable. They interviewed NBE commish Val Ackerman at halftime of a game during the season before last and her response to that question was very tepid. Paraphrasing, she basically intimated that she'd have to see us take a wrecking ball to Pratt & Whitney Stadium before the league would even be mildly interested in entertaining the notion of UCONN joining the NBE.
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Hence dropping football as a term of conditions for our entry into the league.
 
UConnNick said:
The idea that the NBE is "the highest level of hoop" is a complete fantasy. This past season UCF, Houston and Cincinnati were all as good if not better than ANY team in the NBE. Additionally, we and Memphis are on the rise, and Marshall will have Wichita St. much improved next season. There is no longer any real difference between the AAC and NBE in BB, and there's certainly no reason to take less TV payout money to make what would be a lateral move at best, and likely a downgrade long term. Just look at FOX's TV ratings for the NBE. They absolutely suck. It's a bunch of small catholic schools we never had much of anything in common with in the first place, other than geography. Even that's a thing of the distant past now that Xavier, Butler and Creighton joined the new league. Along with DePaul and Marquette, it's a half midwestern conference now.
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I think that sums up the NBE vs AAC thing very well.
 
Chief00 said:
I think that sums up the NBE vs AAC thing very well.
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Just based on the money alone and forgetting about everything else, we'd be certifiably insane to drop football for no other reason than an attempt to join the NBE. We're already hemorrhaging money as it is. Voluntarily moving to a conference with a lower TV payout would constitute administrative malpractice.
 
UConnNick said:
Just based on the money alone and forgetting about everything else, we'd be certifiably insane to drop football for no other reason than an attempt to join the NBE. We're already hemorrhaging money as it is. Voluntarily moving to a conference with a lower TV payout would constitute administrative malpractice.
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You do realize what program hemorrhages by FAR the most money, right?
 
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whaler11 said:
dm me your address ill send over some flowers
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I just can't get over the fact the deal is a decade long. Even if ESPN+ catches on, we'd still be screwed and underpaid.
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
The Head Coach offered to pay out of his own pocket to retain an assistance coach. What further evidence do we possibly need?
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The Head Coach said he offered to pay. That's not evidence, I literally do not take even one word he says at face value.
 
whaler11 said:
lol the tv contract is done. this ship sailed
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Football is the only sport that can generate million dollar + payday games on the road. That's got nothing to do with the TV contract. That has become a sad but necessary evil if we continue to pursue a P5 invite.
 
UConnNick said:
I'm clueless, but you argue that Creighton, DePaul, Marquette, Butler and Xavier are all "a quick drive away"? Even Philadelphia and Washington DC don't exactly qualify as quick drives. That leaves three schools out of 10 that are. If driving distances have anything to do with it we should join the America East.

The NBE schools have small numbers of alumni and relatively small fanbases. The only schools in the AAC that are comparable are Tulsa, SMU and Tulane. The rest of the AAC consists of schools with huge alumni numbers and fanbases, which generate far better interest and TV ratings. The NBE has been losing ratings battles with women's games in the same time slots. You "back to the new Big Leasters" just don't get it and apparently never will. I'll agree to disagree, and I'm done responding to nostalgic fantasies.
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hehe, 'big leasters.' kinda like saying 'bring back 8-tracks!' hehe, big leasters… too funny. I hear doris day is beastin at the nickelodeon, so at least they got that working for them. tippicanoe, and tyler too!
 
UConnNick said:
Football is the only sport that can generate million dollar + payday games on the road. That's got nothing to do with the TV contract. That has become a sad but necessary evil if we continue to pursue a P5 invite.
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If you're argument is that you need to take payday games to keep the program afloat then you've already lost.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
If you're argument is that you need to take payday games to keep the program afloat then you've already lost.
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You enjoy creating straw man arguments. I never indicated we have to sign up for payday games for the football program to survive. I only pointed out it can be an additional source of revenue that has nothing to do with our conference TV revenue share. If you axe the football program the opportunity to use payday games to generate revenue goes away.
 
UConnNick said:
You enjoy creating straw man arguments. I never indicated we have to sign up for payday games for the football program to survive. I only pointed out it can be an additional source of revenue that has nothing to do with our conference TV revenue share. If you axe the football program the opportunity to use payday games to generate revenue goes away.
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We are only using payday games because the AD is floundering and losing money. The biggest culprit being football.

You're talking to a guy who had tickets for a decade and went to 4 bowl games. I love the program and was a huge supporter. I think it's more than a cyclical downturn and rather a systemic disadvantage that were not going to ever compete based on the funding level for the program and the subsequent deficit.
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
We are only using payday games because the AD is floundering and losing money. The biggest culprit being football.

You're talking to a guy who had tickets for a decade and went to 4 bowl games. I love the program and was a huge supporter. I think it's more than a cyclical downturn and rather a systemic disadvantage that were not going to ever compete based on the funding level for the program and the subsequent deficit.
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I agree that the present financial situation is dire, with or without any payday games in our near future. We have to get the football and men's BB programs turned around or most everything will eventually be on the table.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
We are only using payday games because the AD is floundering and losing money. The biggest culprit being football.

You're talking to a guy who had tickets for a decade and went to 4 bowl games. I love the program and was a huge supporter. I think it's more than a cyclical downturn and rather a systemic disadvantage that were not going to ever compete based on the funding level for the program and the subsequent deficit.
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If we are going to cut every program that currently is losing money, then we have to cut them all.

But, but, but, CL, football loses the most! Yeah if also it responsible for biggest share of our media, IMG and Nike contracts. You may not like it but that's how it is.
 
CL82 said:
If we are going to cut every program that currently is losing money, then we have to cut them all.

But, but, but, CL, football loses the most! Yeah if also it responsible for biggest share of our media, IMG and Nike contracts. You may not like it but that's how it is.
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Source?
 
If you want to see what the biggest problem is for us take a look at this:

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Link to see changes over the years
 
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