April 2021 Recruiting Thread

[oldude]

The comparison of Dorka to Evelyn Adebayo is quite laughable. A better comparison statistically, size and strength of the conference played in is Azura Stevens. Many also fooled themselves into believing Geno would never be interested in a transfer from Duke yet there we were.

Don’t know who suggested that Geno wouldn’t be interested in a Duke transfer, but it certainly wasn’t me. There was also a significant difference in 2016 with Z then there is today. Going into 2016-17 the only true post was Nat, so Geno needed size up front and Z certainly fit the need. Not many teams make it to the FF with a 5’11” center.

Today, UConn has plenty of size, and lots of depth. I don’t think there’s any mutual interest with Juhasz, just like there was no mutual interest last year between UConn and Lucy Cochrane, although some here on the BY thought there should be.

FYI, Cochrane transferred to U of Portland and subsequently disappeared. I don’t know if she never made it to the school, opted out due to Covid or was injured.

 

[oldude]

Where are all these ladies going to go? 836!

After the NCAA decided this year doesn’t count against a player’s eligibility, many listed as grad transfers probably figured, what the hell? Why not put my name in the portal and see if any schools want to give me another year of free college so I don’t have to work for a living.

To quote Rodney Dangerfield to the graduating seniors in the movie Back to School, “Don’t go! It’s a jungle out there.”

 

[oldude]

I'd love to know what percentage of all the active DI basketball players went into the transfer portal this season.........

I believe there’s 350 schools. If you figure an average of 12 players per school that’s 4200 players. 836 out of 4200 is approximately 20%. FYI, there’s over 1000 players listed in the portal for MBB.

 

[UcMiami]

I'd love to know what percentage of all the active DI basketball players went into the transfer portal this season.........

You can assume 350+ D1 programs and an average of at least 10 per roster so 3500 so it would be somewhere around 22-24%. If you count only undergrad, more like 15%. I do think there are probably more juniors transferring than normal as well figuring they could get two years in a new program, rather than one, so the extra year of eligibility probably has some effect on changing schools for them also.

 

[CocoHusky]

Don’t know who suggested that Geno wouldn’t be interested in a Duke transfer, but it certainly wasn’t me. There was also a significant difference in 2016 with Z then there is today. Going into 2016-17 the only true post was Nat, so Geno needed size up front and Z certainly fit the need. Not many teams make it to the FF with a 5’11” center.

Today, UConn has plenty of size, and lots of depth. I don’t think there’s any mutual interest with Juhasz, just like there was no mutual interest last year between UConn and Lucy Cochrane, although some here on the BY thought there should be.

FYI, Cochrane transferred to U of Portland and subsequently disappeared. I don’t know if she never made it to the school, opted out due to Covid or was injured.

UCONN had plenty in the post besides Natalie Butler when Azura decided to transfer into UCONN. There was Napheesa Collier and Gabby Williams. Collier would be name AA in the year that Azura was required to sit and Gabby Williams emerged as a POY candidate. Despite having Natalie Napheesa and Gabby Geno saw fit to take in not only Azura as a post transfer but also took in Batouly Camara the same year.
You are correct there was a significant difference between then and now. Then UCONN had two AAs in the post (Gabby, Napheesa) , a contributor (Natalie) and another player who if she were healthy would have been another contributor (Batouly). Today UCONN has AE and ONO and Amari on the way. I'm glad you think that's plenty. Lucy Cochrane would have probably made some of those layups against Arizona though.

 

[oldude]

UCONN had plenty in the post besides Natalie Butler when Azura decided to transfer into UCONN. There was Napheesa Collier and Gabby Williams. Collier would be name AA in the year that Azura was required to sit and Gabby Williams emerged as a POY candidate. Despite having Natalie Napheesa and Gabby Geno saw fit to take in not only Azura as a post transfer but also took in Batouly Camara the same year.
You are correct there was a significant difference between then and now. Then UCONN had two AAs in the post (Gabby, Napheesa) , a contributor (Natalie) and another player who if she were healthy would have been another contributor (Batouly). Today UCONN has AE and ONO and Amari on the way. I'm glad you think that's plenty. Lucy Cochrane would have probably made some of those layups against Arizona though.

You are mistaken. When Z transferred to UConn in the spring of 2016 UConn’s 2 AA’s in the post were Stewie & Tuck who were graduating. Neither Gabby or Pheesa were regular starters at that time, and Geno had no idea both would become AA’s
In 2017.

As for Cochrane making layups vs AZ, not quite sure how that could happen, considering that she didn’t play a single minute or make a single basket for Portland this season.

 

[CocoHusky]

You are mistaken. When Z transferred to UConn in the spring of 2016 UConn’s 2 AA’s in the post were Stewie & Tuck who were graduating. Neither Gabby or Pheesa were regular starters at that time, and Geno had no idea both would become AA’s In 2017.As for Cochrane making layups vs AZ. Not quite sure how that could happen, considering that she didn’t play a single minute or make a single basket for Portland this season.

When Geno had Morgan Tuck, Stewie, Gabby Williams, and Kia Stokes on the roster he took in a post transfer=Natalie Butler. When Geno had Naphessa, Gabby & and Natalie he brought in two post transfers = Batouly & Azura. Geno has a pretty good idea of what players will become AA. I also know that if there is an opportunity to add talent Geno will. I have no idea if Geno is interested in Dorka or not. Dorka is talented despite your attempt to distort her numbers. How/when did you become so convinced about what Geno will do?

 

[BobbyJ]

After the NCAA decided this year doesn’t count against a player’s eligibility, many listed as grad transfers probably figured, what the hell? Why not put my name in the portal and see if any schools want to give me another year of free college so I don’t have to work for a living.

To quote Rodney Dangerfield to the graduating seniors in the movie Back to School, “Don’t go! It’s a jungle out there.”

My favorite to the female professor or administrator, “Call me when you have no class”!

 

[uconnfan68]

The comparison of Dorka to Evelyn Adebayo is quite laughable. A better comparison statistically, size and strength of the conference played in is Azura Stevens. Many also fooled themselves into believing Geno would never be interested in a transfer from Duke yet there we were.

Did you forget Brittany Hunter?

 

[MilfordHusky]

Where are all these ladies going to go? 836!

It's a giant game of musical chairs!

For example, Mississippi State lost some players to transfer (at least Matharu and I believe others). But they added the THREE Hayes sisters. When the music stops, who will be where?

 

[Sluconn Husky]

4/6

Isuneh Brady: 7 points, 11 rebounds, 4 blocks



4/7

Isuneh Brady: 21 points, 14 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 blocks

 

[oldude]

When Geno had Morgan Tuck, Stewie, Gabby Williams, and Kia Stokes on the roster he took in a post transfer=Natalie Butler. When Geno had Naphessa, Gabby & and Natalie he brought in two post transfers = Batouly & Azura. Geno has a pretty good idea of what players will become AA. I also know that if there is an opportunity to add talent Geno will. I have no idea if Geno is interested in Dorka or not. Dorka is talented despite your attempt to distort her numbers. How/when did you become so convinced about what Geno will do?

Now you’re just making stuff up. You were mistaken about Cochrane last year and you should know that Geno has no interest in bringing in a player this year who shoots 20% from the arc and 43% from the FT line.

 

[freshler40]

If she tries to defend super-quick guard like Aari McDonald, I think she will foul out pretty fast.

Not worry about guarding Aari, she is one of a kind, amazing, earns everything she gets and then some.

 

[oldude]

It's a giant game of musical chairs!

For example, Mississippi State lost some players to transfer (at least Matharu and I believe others). But they added the THREE Hayes sisters. When the music stops, who will be where?

Syracuse just lost their 11th player, freshman G Kiara Fisher, to the transfer portal, leaving the Orange with only 3 returning players. I’m guessing Coach Q is working the phones intently to find some players.

 

[rvwsleep]

Syracuse just lost their 11th player, freshman G Kiara Fisher, to the transfer portal, leaving the Orange with only 3 returning players. I’m guessing Coach Q is working the phones intently to find some players.

I wonder if the university is investigating the wcbb program at Syracuse ?
Surely, having 11 team members enter the portal must raise some red flags. It would seem prudent for the university to do some digging in order to, at least, exonerate the coach from any wrongdoing.

 

[CocoHusky]

Now you’re just making stuff up. You were mistaken about Cochrane last year and you should know that Geno has no interest in bringing in a player this year who shoots 20% from the arc and 43% from the FT line.

Evelyn is going to be a Beast this year. Watching her 28 pt effort vs the LV’s last season was something to behold. Against the much bigger LV’s she was unstoppable both inside and out, continually getting inside position with a combination of strength, effort and an array of remarkable moves straight off the playground.

Can the season start tomorrow....Please?

 

[Littlemin]

I wonder if the university is investigating the wcbb program at Syracuse ?
Surely, having 11 team members enter the portal must raise some red flags. It would seem prudent for the university to do some digging in order to, at least, exonerate the coach from any wrongdoing.

Yeah, let’s investigate for the sake of investigation because we as a society should be about exonerating someone from any wrongdoing without ANY suggestion any has occurred.

 

[Stymie]

I did feel that the word exonerate was a poor choice. Perhaps “examine the trajectory” of the woman’s BB program at the University?
Could be a number of factors other than the coach.

 

[rvwsleep]

Yeah, let’s investigate for the sake of investigation because we as a society should be about exonerating someone from any wrongdoing without ANY suggestion any has occurred.

A legitimate point. The other side is doing nothing until it blows up and everyone questions why the university didn't look into it when the signs were obvious.
Of course, it very well might be that everything is fine at Syracuse.
Let me ask you this; if you owned a company and 11 of 15 employees, in the same department, left at the same time, would you ask the manager of that department any questions ?

 

[eebmg]

I wonder if the university is investigating the wcbb program at Syracuse ?
Surely, having 11 team members enter the portal must raise some red flags. It would seem prudent for the university to do some digging in order to, at least, exonerate the coach from any wrongdoing.

Blame UConn.

 

[rvwsleep]

I did feel that the word exonerate was a poor choice. Perhaps “examine the trajectory” of the woman’s BB program at the University?
Could be a number of factors other than the coach.

It may have been a poor choice of words.
He is innocent until proven guilty.
How do you think Syracuse appears to prospective recruits ? If I was running their AD, I would want to get in front of any controversy. That's if women's basketball means anything to the university.

 

[eebmg]

Kiara Fisher becomes 11th Syracuse women’s basketball player to enter NCAA transfer portal

Fisher played in 10 games as a freshman for the Orange.

www.syracuse.com

Fisher is one of four players including Taleah Washington, Faith Blackstone and Khamya McNeal that were suspended from Syracuse’s postseason run due to a violation of team rules. All four players are currently in the transfer portal.

On March 26 — the same day Engstler, Blackstone and Washington entered the portal — Fisher’s mother told Syracuse.com that she wasn’t seeking a transfer.

Syracuse now has four players from last season’s roster on the team: Kamilla Cardoso, Priscilla Williams, Ava Irvin and Teisha Hyman.

The Orange will bring in a top-15 recruiting class of five along with two new transfer players, former Southern California guard Shalexxus Aaron and Howard graduate transfer Jayla Thornton.

 

[CocoHusky]

It may have been a poor choice of words.
He is innocent until proven guilty.
How do you think Syracuse appears to prospective recruits ? If I was running their AD, I would want to get in front of any controversy. That's if women's basketball means anything to the university.

"Proven guilty" is not a better choice of words. It appears that all the recent players that have left Syracuse have left on good terms based on social media postings. The point many are trying to make is there has been no allegation of wrongdoing (as of yet) that would warrant an investigation. BTW Quentin Hillsman was investigated and exonerated in 2011 regarding text messages.

SU women's coach Quentin Hillsman investigated for harassment

The Syracuse University's women's basketball team and its coach are being investigated by the U.S. Department of Education after a sexual harassment complaint by a former player.

cnycentral.com

 

[Stymie]

The REAL question is why would a student athlete transfer from sunny southern California to snow belt bound Syracuse?
Leave the sun block- take the chap stick.
( tongue in cheek)

 

[oldude]

I wonder if the university is investigating the wcbb program at Syracuse ?
Surely, having 11 team members enter the portal must raise some red flags. It would seem prudent for the university to do some digging in order to, at least, exonerate the coach from any wrongdoing.

Other than the sheer number of transfers, I’m not aware of any particular indication of wrongdoing on the part of the coaching staff. Kids are transferring everywhere. At Syracuse it’s just a lot more of them all at once.

 

[oldude]

CocoHusky, I was wrong about Evelyn and freely admit it. But since you’re dragging out old posts, may I suggest that you take a look at your own posts from a thread titled, “Is Nika the X-factor?”

If you want to focus on the highly improbable possibility that Juhasz transfers to UConn, have at it. Like most UConn fans, I am far more interested in the 14 young ladies who are committed to being part of next year’s team, as well as those recruits who have committed, and will commit, to the incoming class of 2022.

 

[CocoHusky]

CocoHusky, I was wrong about Evelyn and freely admit it. But since you’re dragging out old posts, may I suggest that you take a look at your own posts from a thread titled, “Is Nika the X-factor?”

If you want to focus on the highly improbable possibility that Juhasz transfers to UConn, have at it. Like most UConn fans, I am far more interested in the 14 young ladies who are committed to being part of next year’s team, as well as those recruits who have committed, and will commit, to the incoming class of 2022.

Sometime after mid season or so Geno will start working Piath into the rotation for 5-10 mpg subbing for Liv.

 

[bluedevil]

The REAL question is why would a student athlete transfer from sunny southern California to snow belt bound Syracuse?
Leave the sun block- take the chap stick.
( tongue in cheek)

Why do people want to go to the Moon? Its cold there and there isn't much to do there. You have to go 240000 miles to find the nearest dairy queen and the wi fi sucks...

 

[oldhusky]

I will try to present a middle ground here. First I have indicated that Gorka could be an interesting addition for one year. Do we need her badly, no! Is it likely she would come here even if Geno was interested? Probably not, but following Uconn on social media suggests there might be a chance. Do we already have a problem keeping lots of very good players happy with playing time? Yes. If bringing her for one year caused another very good 4 year player to leave, would that make it a mistake? Probably.

I was very wrong on Evelyn, not just based on her stats, but knowing they were from low level competition, and after seeing some video on her as well. So I will probably be forever a skeptic on big numbers from lesser programs. But Gorka's were from a Power 5 conference. Does that make me think Gorka is Azura 2.0? No, but I suspect much closer to her than Evelyn. Do I think Gorka would be a stretch 4 at Uconn? No, and I would not consider her a serious threat to the playing time of Liv or Aaliyah.

I think the best potential role for her would be Liv's principal backup, with some time but not much at PF. Now I think Amari will probably be a very good backup to Liv her freshmen year, but there will still be learning pains. Dorka would still have to beat out Amari for that role and maybe she wouldn't, but as a senior who has succeeded against good competition, I think her chances against a freshmen, even a very talented one, are pretty good. As for Amari's future, this would be like a one year rental that could raise the floor of how good our backup center will be during Amari's learning year. Whether it be Gorga or Amari, knowing that we would have a big maybe of the Prechtel level at Stanford coming off the bench even if Amari takes a while to get there. Amari's Uconn future after this year would still be bright.

Now there are many reasons why she would not want to come here, even if we wanted her. Her playing time probably would be cut dramatically. So why could she even consider it? Would it hurt her professional aspirations? Possibly, but if she performs very well even in limited minutes at Uconn, scouts will see plenty of you. Another factor is maybe she wants to see what a year of Uconn coaching does for her game. She might be better after that, and she would be going against players like Liv, Aaliyah and Amari every day in practice. In addition some may want to be part of the Uconn experience. Tons of exposure, in the limelight all the time and with a team that will probably make the final four and could easily win the championship.

So there are reasons why she may not want us, and visa versa, and I worry about the overloaded roster as much as anyone. Maybe we shouldn't pursue her because of that, but the odds would seem to be pretty good that Gorka as a proven senior, could be better than Amari as a freshmen for the role of backup C for next year.

 

[UcMiami]

Kiara Fisher becomes 11th Syracuse women’s basketball player to enter NCAA transfer portal

Fisher played in 10 games as a freshman for the Orange.

www.syracuse.com

Fisher is one of four players including Taleah Washington, Faith Blackstone and Khamya McNeal that were suspended from Syracuse’s postseason run due to a violation of team rules. All four players are currently in the transfer portal.

On March 26 — the same day Engstler, Blackstone and Washington entered the portal — Fisher’s mother told Syracuse.com that she wasn’t seeking a transfer.

Syracuse now has four players from last season’s roster on the team: Kamilla Cardoso, Priscilla Williams, Ava Irvin and Teisha Hyman.

The Orange will bring in a top-15 recruiting class of five along with two new transfer players, former Southern California guard Shalexxus Aaron and Howard graduate transfer Jayla Thornton.

5 of the Syracuse transfer portal players are also grad transfers and one of those 5 was also a walk on transfer into Syracuse. Still not a pretty picture, but you have 5 graduates, 4 suspended players and two players choosing to transfer so it looks better than just saying 11 players transferring.


Not sure what the general student population rate is for changing schools for graduate studies but I am pretty sure it is quite high - a lot of schools don't have lots of grad degrees available, and a lot of departments strongly recommend going elsewhere for a grad degree for the breadth of experience available from a different group of professors. We normally do not notice any of these grad transfers because almost all have used up their eligibility.