AP preseason first team

[RuffRuff]

 

[superjohn]

Condon is so overrated.

 

[RuffRuff]

Condon is so overrated.

Dysbantsa there instead of DP and Boozer interesting

 

[millertime7774]

Maybe it's just me, but is that the worst preseason All American team ever?

 

[UCFan1513]

Maybe it's just me, but is that the worst preseason All American team ever?

Yes

 

[HW611]

Maybe it's just me, but is that the worst preseason All American team ever?

Outside of the freshmen, the talent in college basketball is just bad these days.

 

[HooperScooper]

Big East Media Day is tomorrow. Who will be on the first team? Solo?

 

[thekollieman]

Big East Media Day is tomorrow. Who will be on the first team? Solo?

I’d put Tarris as likeliest to be voted preseason all conference first team (although Ejiofor may take those votes directly from Tarris so maybe not). Possible Solo and Alex appearances at second team or better since they were already there. Mullins obvious preseason freshman of the year if that’s something they put out.

 

[RuffRuff]

Outside of the freshmen, the talent in college basketball is just bad these days.

Rationale?

 

[Devland]

It's the players that make the post season teams that matter most.

 

[HW611]

Rationale?

Just look at the All American lists from the last 5 or so years and compare them to the ones of the 2010s and 2000s.

 

[RuffRuff]

Just look at the All American lists from the last 5 or so years and compare them to the ones of the 2010s and 2000s.

So you're saying the quality of basketball is going downhill? Players aren't as good as they used to be?

I don't think so - you can go hand pick some years that were better, but there are plenty of preseason AA teams that would be of lesser caliber than this one. Anything popping in 2019? I'd throw Haggerty or Dent in there instead of Condon. I think you just have to pull yourself out of the past being the golden years and catch up with today.

Men's AP Preseason All-American Players | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Men's AP Preseason All-American Players

www.sports-reference.com

 

[auror]

Yeah the random wildcard Condon inclusion just makes it seem worse. If that said Darryn Peterson instead, it would look a lot better in retrospect.

 

[HW611]

So you're saying the quality of basketball is going downhill? Players aren't as good as they used to be?

I don't think so - you can go hand pick some years that were better, but there are plenty of preseason AA teams that would be of lesser caliber than this one. Anything popping in 2019? I'd throw Haggerty or Dent in there instead of Condon. I think you just have to pull yourself out of the past being the golden years and catch up with today.

Men's AP Preseason All-American Players | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Men's AP Preseason All-American Players

www.sports-reference.com

Last year’s AP POY award was between Cooper Flagg and a 6th year who averaged 18 and 10.

RJ Barrett averaged 22 PPG that year and Carsen Edward’s averaged 24. Neither won POY. Carsen wasn’t even a first team AA.

The talent sucks these days man.

 

[superjohn]

Last year’s AP POY award was between Cooper Flagg and a 6th year who averaged 18 and 10.

RJ Barrett averaged 22 PPG that year and Carsen Edward’s averaged 24. Neither won POY.

The talent sucks these days man.

Another strange post.

 

[auror]

Last year’s AP POY award was between Cooper Flagg and a 6th year who averaged 18 and 10.

RJ Barrett averaged 22 PPG that year and Carsen Edward’s averaged 24. Neither won POY.

The talent sucks these days man.

Cooper Flagg had one of the best two-way college basketball seasons of all time last season. He was better than anyone from that year.

 

[HW611]

Cooper Flagg had one of the best two-way college basketball seasons of all time last season. He was better than anyone from that year.

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Cooper Flagg was Duke’s best defensive freshman ever. Not sure if he’s top 5 offensive freshman that played at Duke.

Timeout am I looking at a stat that has Jon Scheyer at 11????

Deion Wright is the 3rd best player of all time?

What are you showing us man lol

 

[auror]

Cooper Flagg was Duke’s best defensive freshman ever. Not sure if he’s top 5 offensive freshman that played at Duke.

Timeout am I looking at a stat that has Jon Scheyer at 11????

Scheyer that season was kind of insane when you go back and look. He had a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio while making 110 threes for a title winning team.

 

[alphasigko]

Outside of the freshmen, the talent in college basketball is just bad these days.

That is because all of the good ones left early to the League!

 

[borninansonia]

Back in my day, upperclassmen dominated the All American team
Here is one of the best, 1984
Michael Jordan
Patrick Ewing
Chris Mullin
Sam Perkins
Akeem Olajuwon

 

[HW611]

Scheyer that season was kind of insane when you go back and look. He had a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio while making 110 threes for a title winning team.

And that made him a better player than Kemba Walker. Cool

 

[HW611]

Feel like any time we see an advanced stat that says Delon Wright was better than Anthony Davis and Jon Scheyer is better than Kemba we should probably throw it away.

Jalen Brunson isn’t even in the top 30 man omg lmaoooo

Im going to get on my podium here. But this is the part of the analytics community I do not like. Analytics are a great tool to get valuable information that can be used to help a basketball team.

But when random stats like this get pulled to talk about how good a player is or is not is when it’s like, what are we doing? There’s clearly so many cases on that list that doesn’t make sense, so why are we quoting this stat to mean much?

Some of the best players from that time period isn’t on this list.

Who is Thomas Walkup and why is this stat telling me he was better than Kemba Walker!!

 

[auror]

And that made him a better player than Kemba Walker. Cool

Out of around 75,000 players in the timespan, they're within 8 spots. Kemba had a slump in conference play if you recall, shot 39.5% from the field. Wore down a bit. The Ben Hansbrough of it all. He's in the 99.98th percentile in the model.

 

[CL82]

Cooper Flagg had one of the best two-way college basketball seasons of all time last season. He was better than anyone from that year.

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Love seeing Clingan on that list.

 

[uconnfan68]

Where's Emeka?