AP Poll - Week 6

[navery12]

1-9 Mississippi Valley State received 4 votes.

Already fixed for the obvious error where Mississippi State was intended

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

I'm worried about you dislocating your shoulder.

I'm wondering how much & who among Wilner, Charboneau, and the other two he paid off.

 

[Kolumbo]

1-9 Mississippi Valley State received 4 votes.

They're the devils!

Yup, they received the votes. The internet says so.

Others Receiving Votes​

• Memphis (74) 8-2; College of Charleston (64) 10-1; Marquette (39) 8-3; Iowa State (39) 8-2; Arizona State (39) 9-1; UNLV (27) 10-0; Xavier (26) 7-3; Iowa (25) 7-3; West Virginia (20) 8-2; Saint Mary's (15) 8-3; San Diego State (14) 7-3; Texas Tech (14) 6-2; New Mexico (12) 9-0; Utah (12) 8-2; Creighton (11) 6-4; Michigan State (5) 7-4; Utah State (4) 8-0; Mississippi Valley State (4) 1-9; Kansas State (2) 9-1;

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Not sure why the above disappeared from here but it did bring to mind the following:

 

[Umami Zen]

BTW.. Seth Davis dipping his toe in the water with a third place vote for UConn.. Epic jump up in the polls for the Huskies with him.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

This voter should be banned:

 

[YoungFree]

Good morning, after a couple of nice wins this week over Florida (their biggest home loss since 1998) and LIU, plus some top 10 losses, we should be moving up

Top 10 teams with losses this week:
#2 Texas v #17 Illinois
#2 Texas v Chris Beard
#1 Houston v #8 Alabama

Here are some public AP ballots for week 5: (Last week's rank in parentheses)
Jon Rothstein: 3 (5)
Jerry Carino: 3 (5)
Clayton Collier: 3 (5)
Mark Berman: 3 (5)
Dave Borges: 2 (3)
Chris Murray: 2 (3)
Dickie V: 1 (5)
Scott Richey: 1 (5) <-- this guy had us unranked 2 weeks ago lol
Rick Bozich: 2 (4)
Jeff Borzello: 1 (5)
Seth Davis: 3 (7)

Non-AP Analytic Sites:
Kenpom: 1 (4)
Barttorvik: 2 (3)
Evan Miya: 3 (7)
Massey: 2 (4)
Team Rankings: 1 (3)
Sagarin: 1 (2)
Haslametrics: 1 (2)
Reddit Userpoll: 1 (5)
NET Rankings: 1

Prediction: UConn #2. I think we have an outside shot at being #1

Been telling everyone all week we would fall at #3. The bias to the power football conferences is real.

#2 is more realistic given Virginia has only beaten Baylor, Illinois, and Michigan while squeeking past James Madison. Purdue crushed Gonzaga and Duke and are in the Big Ten so we weren't going to pass them.

If Houston goes on a revenge tour and takes down Virginia and we handle our business, we will be #2 for Christmas. No way Purdue is losing with their cupcake schedule for the rest of 2022.

 

[auror]

Been telling everyone all week we would fall at #3. The bias to the power football conferences is real.

#2 is more realistic given Virginia has only beaten Baylor, Illinois, and Michigan while squeeking past James Madison. Purdue crushed Gonzaga and Duke and are in the Big Ten so we weren't going to pass them.

If Houston goes on a revenge tour and takes down Virginia and we handle our business, we will be #2 for Christmas. No way Purdue is losing with their cupcake schedule for the rest of 2022.

It's not football school bias. It's chronology bias. Virginia got their big win earlier, so was ahead of us already. Purdue's wins were considered better when they got them (Gonzaga and Duke by double digits) despite happening at the same time, mostly because our Bama win didn't become premium until they just won @Houston this week.

Most voters don't reassess order, they just drop the losers into a spot and move everyone else up that one spot. The only exception is a big win, ala Alabama this week. Then you can move up. @Florida didn't register for most (it did for some) because they're borderline top 50 not top 10.

 

[HungryHu5ky]

Butler don’t even know how bad it’s about to be for them sat.
& I’ll be rooting for Houston this wk too

 

[runner11]

I don’t thinkpeople realize how little time voters spend on the polls, or how few of the teams they are familiar with. Especially guys on a single beat.

 

[Chasm64]

post nazi

Inappropriate

 

[B1GEast]

15 1st place votes

 

[August_West]

Been telling everyone all week we would fall at #3. The bias to the power football conferences is real.

#2 is more realistic given Virginia has only beaten Baylor, Illinois, and Michigan while squeeking past James Madison. Purdue crushed Gonzaga and Duke and are in the Big Ten so we weren't going to pass them.

If Houston goes on a revenge tour and takes down Virginia and we handle our business, we will be #2 for Christmas. No way Purdue is losing with their cupcake schedule for the rest of 2022.

Out of the 3 upper echelon wins between us and Virginia, Virginia has 2 of them. Our Bama win is better than all, but Baylor and Illinois are WAY better than our 2nd place best win.

 

[ctchamps]

Inappropriate

Out of context I would agree.

However it’s referencing a Seinfeld episode and a post made in another thread.

@HooperScooper understood the inside joke and laughed at it. I have total respect for his contributions in this forum.

 

[HuskyHawk]

It's not football school bias. It's chronology bias. Virginia got their big win earlier, so was ahead of us already. Purdue's wins were considered better when they got them (Gonzaga and Duke by double digits) despite happening at the same time, mostly because our Bama win didn't become premium until they just won @Houston this week.

Most voters don't reassess order, they just drop the losers into a spot and move everyone else up that one spot. The only exception is a big win, ala Alabama this week. Then you can move up. @Florida didn't register for most (it did for some) because they're borderline top 50 not top 10.

I don't even get the angst on the board about this. The horror! How will we ever overcome having a great team ranked #3?!

 

[ctchamps]

This voter should be banned:

Needed the extra syllables for Haiku.

 

[tzznandrew]

Out of the 3 upper echelon wins between us and Virginia, Virginia has 2 of them. Our Bama win is better than all, but Baylor and Illinois are WAY better than our 2nd place best win.

Wins against good teams should be taken into consideration in bumping a team up more than close wins in bumping them down.

If you look at the Top 6 (included Tennessee since they got a first place vote), these are the best wins by Kenpom:

2 @Houston (by Alabama)
7 N-Kansas (by Tennessee)
10 N-Alabama (by UConn)
11 N-Gonzaga (by Purdue)
13 N-Duke (by Purdue)
15 N-Baylor (by Virginia)
17 N-Maryland (by Tennessee)
19 N-Illinois (by Virginia)
21 N-St. Mary's (by Houston)
23 N-West Virginia (by Purdue)
31 H-Marquette (by Purdue)
39 @Oregon (by Houston)
39 N-Oregon (UConn)
44 @Michigan (by Virginia)
46 N-Iowa State (by UConn)

We've demolished teams, but other teams have some better scalps than us. Other than the Alabama win, which I think will be the second best win for a while.

 

[UC1995]

This voter should be banned:

Speculation is that they were giving Mississippi State votes and in their ineptitude clicked the wrong button.

 

[Waquoit]

Who has a better win than us?

 

[tzznandrew]

Who has a better win than us?

I'd say @Houston is a better win as it stands right now.

 

[jibsey]

The 2 main polls AP and Coaches we are #3. I realize that there are many other polls but aren’t those the ones that are most listed ? In my mind until we top those polls we ain’t number 1. That said it’s no big sleight this early in the season. How many ranked teams do we have on our future schedule? This is not our fault but many of these other top 10 schools get to play ranked teams where winning does them good in the polls. Our hope is that Creighton, Nova, St.John’s, and Marquette move into the top 25. Of course the way for them to do that is by beating us!

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

The 2 main polls AP and Coaches we are #3. I realize that there are many other polls but aren’t those the ones that are most listed ? In my mind until we top those polls we ain’t number 1. That said it’s no big sleight this early in the season. How many ranked teams do we have on our future schedule? This is not our fault but many of these other top 10 schools get to play ranked teams where winning does them good in the polls. Our hope is that Creighton, Nova, St.John’s, and Marquette move into the top 25. Of course the way for them to do that is by beating us!

Or we remain unbeaten and those other BE teams take care of business well enough to climb back into the 15-25 range.

 

[RayRay]

 

[Waquoit]

I'd say @Houston is a better win as it stands right now.

You're saying that crushing the team that beat Houston is an inferior win? Disagree.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Both AP and USA Today/Coaches UConn is closer to #1 than #4 Bama is to UConn. And it's not close.

Said another way, Purdue, Virginia and UConn are breaking away from the pack.