AP Poll Week 17 (UConn #3)

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Oh that should be meaningful. I predict Duke will be #1

How could that mean anything other than a prediction from you that Duke will win the NCAA Tournament?

 

[Fan1978]

No love. Creighton beating UConn but losing to St John’s climbs them three spots, but yet UConn losing to a top 15 drops them two spots. These writers have no clue.

Unfortunately lost by 20, no worries just keep the 1 seed. Probably lose at Marquette as well. Beat seton hall and providence and win big East tournament and will be overall 1 seed. Would be nice but one seed after tournament is all anyone here cares about

 

[AdamaNation]

I'm not one for complaining about disrespect but Purdue has 3 bad losses and we lost on the road to the 12th ranked team. You could make a good case we should still be #1, but we're better than Purdue. I get the arguments the other way but we are crushing teams and had 1 bad loss to a good team that shot the lights out at home.

I thought we would only peel off a few bites but stay at one. Houston to their benefit had a strong week and had been 1NET or KPI all year. But still felt we should have had like 25 votes.

 

[Austin316]

Don’t underestimate the power of the AAC. Look what it did for Houston!

I won’t. I just don’t remember the last time I saw USF in the AP poll. If anything I’m shocked they are having one of the best seasons their program has ever had.

 

[DMIL]

Let's focus on winning the Big East Regular season and Big East tournament titles. The rest will take care of itself. A number of bog games reamin before the NCAA tournament.

 

[SouthBayHusky]

I hate that this late in the season just because you lose you move down. I’m sorry but ranking us other than #1 is disrespectful. Poll the country, and ask whose the best college basketball team pound for pound, and majority will still say Connecticut. Purdue slightly behind. The only good thing is Hurley will use this to motivate the guys. But the disrespect is real.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I hate that this late in the season just because you lose you move down. I’m sorry but ranking us other than #1 is disrespectful. Poll the country, and ask whose the best college basketball team pound for pound, and majority will still say Connecticut. Purdue slightly behind. The only good thing is Hurley will use this to motivate the guys. But the disrespect is real.

They lost. Houston beat two ranked teams. It’s not disrespect. It’s common sense.

 

[JohnFSilver]

Seems fair - really is Purdue, Houston, UConn at the top with just about everyone with 6 losses behind the Big 3.

Media has an unhealthy obsession with Purdue. I just seem them as vulnerable. But what do I know?

 

[Mike Honcho]

I hate that this late in the season just because you lose you move down. I’m sorry but ranking us other than #1 is disrespectful. Poll the country, and ask whose the best college basketball team pound for pound, and majority will still say Connecticut. Purdue slightly behind. The only good thing is Hurley will use this to motivate the guys. But the disrespect is real.

We just got spanked by 19 and we only moved down 2 spots.

The victimhood here is intense.

 

[Jaydumo20]

How can the defending national champion and an odds on favorite to repeat have a regular season super bowl?

I hope you're speaking for some segments of the fan base and not the team - particularly the part about being scared.

Ha. Maybe superbowl was too strong.
I'm sure winning in Omaha, or taking the series against Creighton is on DHs list.
And, yes, I'm a little scared of Creighton.
But I'm frightened by the state of Nebraska in general.

 

[August_West]

We just got spanked by 19 and we only moved down 2 spots.

The victimhood here is intense.

You can tell the casual bandwagoners are out of the woodwork following our Natty and dominance this season. The last 20 hours all over the internet has been like "Baby's 1st AP poll" .

I fully expect it to get worse now that the Pats are no longer a dynasty.

 

[gtcam]

Don’t underestimate the power of the AAC. Look what it did for Houston!

Houston would be very good no matter where you place them as long as Sampson is coaching that team.

 

[nomar]

I agree that we are better than Purdue but do think they should be ranked above us at this point. Losing @NW in OT and @Nebraska isn't any different from our loss @SH. They have also beaten a TON of really good teams. Wins over Tennessee (KP-6 and proj 2 seed), Marq (KP 15 and proj 2), Alabama (KP 7 proj 3), Arizona (KP 4 proj 1) and Illinois (KP 10 proj 4). That compares super favorably to home wins against Marq/Creighton and neutral UNC.

And OSU. That's 2 losses that are similar to our SH loss and one that's much worse. And Clingan was hurt in that game, although we probably would've lost anyway.

As I mentioned, I see the argument the other way, and you presented it nicely, but I think we should be ranked 2nd.

 

[aburks41]

If Marquette is a 2 or 3 seed can't they be in the same regional as UConn? I believe they can.

No they wouldn't put 2 protected seeds from the same conference in one region

We look like we'll be E1, Marquette looks destined to be MW2

Doesn't it depend where Marquette ends up on the S-curve? If Purdue is the #1 overall seed and Marquette is the highest ranked 2-seed on the S-curve, they cannot be in the Midwest with Purdue

 

[Tyler2Rings]

Doesn't it depend where Marquette ends up on the S-curve? If Purdue is the #1 overall seed and Marquette is the highest ranked 2-seed on the S-curve, they cannot be in the Midwest with Purdue

Yes if MQ was #5 they would get the last 1 seed, most likely out West. I personally think Purdue will end up overall #1 and MQ will be 7 or 8 which sets them up as MW1 and 2

 

[SouthBayHusky]

We just got spanked by 19 and we only moved down 2 spots.

The victimhood here is intense.

Nonsense. Connecticut > Houston. We are the better team.

 

[BigTenFan]

Yes if MQ was #5 they would get the last 1 seed, most likely out West. I personally think Purdue will end up overall #1 and MQ will be 7 or 8 which sets them up as MW1 and 2

Purdue already beat Marquette once
Tennessee will most likely be last #1 or #5

 

[Platt81]

We just got spanked by 19 and we only moved down 2 spots.

The victimhood here is intense.

Creighton got spanked by the same amount to an unranked team and moved up two spots. It’s not victimhood, it’s the writers voting off the weeks box scores, not the bigger picture. All of it doesn’t matter, you don’t win a title in the regular season, but as a fan it’s ok to question it.

 

[August_West]

Creighton got spanked by the same amount to an unranked team and moved up two spots. It’s not victimhood, it’s the writers voting off the weeks box scores, not the bigger picture. All of it doesn’t matter, you don’t win a title in the regular season, but as a fan it’s ok to question it.

Creighton isn't in our immediate vicinity in the AP poll so whether they moved up or down is irrelevant to us and has no correlation to the movement in the area of the poll we live in. This isn't hard and it is the way the poll has always worked. Weren't we #4 the week prior to jumping to #1 and then because the 3 teams above us lost we then jumped to #1? Did you complain that week about writers voting off that weeks box scores? Because there could've been a claim for one of those 3 teams to stay ahead of us despite a loss based on your "bigger picture" criteria. I bet you didn't complain though. The poll giveth and the poll taketh away.

Creighton beating us was the best win in College Basketball last week. Other teams immediately around them in the polls lost too, thus the move up for them. If all the teams immediately above Creighton won last week Creighton even with that win they would not move up on a 1-1 week. I don't understand why people don't get this.

 

[Mike Honcho]

Creighton isn't in our immediate vicinity in the AP poll so whether they moved up or down is irrelevant to us and has no correlation to the movement in the area of the poll we live in. This isn't hard and it is the way the poll has always worked. Weren't we #4 the week prior to jumping to #1 and then because the 3 teams above us lost we then jumped to #1? Did you complain that week about writers voting off that weeks box scores? Because there could've been a claim for one of those 3 teams to stay ahead of us despite a loss based on your "bigger picture" criteria. I bet you didn't complain though. The poll giveth and the poll taketh away.

Creighton beating us was the best win in College Basketball last week. Other teams immediately around them in the polls lost too, thus the move up for them. If all the teams immediately above Creighton won last week Creighton even with that win they would not move up on a 1-1 week. I don't understand why people don't get this.

100% this. The AP poll has always been about "what have you done for me lately." It has no impact on seeding for the tournament, and we just spent 6 weeks as the #1 team so I don't know why we're getting our panties in a bunch about it.

I really like how this guy sized it up:

 

[Platt81]

Creighton isn't in our immediate vicinity in the AP poll so whether they moved up or down is irrelevant to us and has no correlation to the movement in the area of the poll we live in. This isn't hard and it is the way the poll has always worked. Weren't we #4 the week prior to jumping to #1 and then because the 3 teams above us lost we then jumped to #1? Did you complain that week about writers voting off that weeks box scores? Because there could've been a claim for one of those 3 teams to stay ahead of us despite a loss based on your "bigger picture" criteria. I bet you didn't complain though. The poll giveth and the poll taketh away.

Creighton beating us was the best win in College Basketball last week. Other teams immediately around them in the polls lost too, thus the move up for them. If all the teams immediately above Creighton won last week Creighton even with that win they would not move up on a 1-1 week. I don't understand why people don't get this.

I don’t disagree with you it’s how the polls work, but the week you talk about Kansas and Purdue both lost to unranked teams, and Houston lost twice to unranked teams. UConn lost to #15, if the loss to Seton Hall was this week rather I would agree with your metric, but UConn has one loss to an unranked team, Kansas has 4, Houston has 2, Purdue has 3.

And why was the Creighton win “the best win in College Basketball last week?” Because they beat the unanimous #1 team in the country, which is another point, UConn didn’t jump three spots and knock off a unanimous #1. Purdue lost 34 first place votes for losing to an unranked team that week, UConn lost 57 this week for losing to the #15 team.

 

[tzznandrew]

They lost. Houston beat two ranked teams. It’s not disrespect. It’s common sense.

They didn't just lose. They got slaughtered. Why are people pretending they wouldn't be annoyed if a team not named UConn got beat by 19 and still had first place votes the next week?

It's a sign of the respect the voters have for UConn, yet somehow it's being spun as an injustice. Houston went to Baylor—a team similarly ranked to Creighton—and won. Give them credit.

 

[freescooter]

How could that mean anything other than a prediction from you that Duke will win the NCAA Tournament?

If that’s what YOU think it means you might just have the brain of a parking meter.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

If that’s what YOU think it means you might just have the brain of a parking meter.

I'd be surprised if the #1 ranked team after the conclusion of the NCAA Tournament would be any other than the Tournament champion.

I walked you through my process. Did I make an error? If so, I'd welcome correction.

If you have a process by which you predicted that Duke would be voted #1 other than by its winning the tournament, I'd appreciate you walking me through your process.

You might emerge from civil discourse with an earned and recognized 'win' of sorts. Would you object to such an outcome?

You make it seem like such a foregone conclusion that it could mean something else, what would stand in the way of harvesting such low hanging fruit? I, on the other hand, need to approach the topic with humility, accepting the possibility that I am revealing a blind spot, or misunderstood what I read, and might be wrong.

I look forward to your response.

 

[tzznandrew]

Creighton got spanked by the same amount to an unranked team and moved up two spots. It’s not victimhood, it’s the writers voting off the weeks box scores, not the bigger picture. All of it doesn’t matter, you don’t win a title in the regular season, but as a fan it’s ok to question it.

Oh, right. Good point. Creighton beat #1 and then lost, but moved past 3 other teams ahead of them who lost.

So, which teams ahead of us lost last week to mitigate our fall?