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AP Poll 12/20

Meaningless, but interesting to see how a very close loss to a now top 3 team resulted in a 4 spot drop. Doesn't mean much, as I think our team could compete with any of the teams ranked 4-10.
 
Baylor has close losses to MI and MD, but hasn't beaten anyone of note yet.

SC has passed every test thus far, but they're often winning ugly--not a knock against them necessarily, but it doesn't make them feel unbeatable. But if then beat Stanford tomorrow, that's wins over about half of the top 10 already.
 
visitingcock said:
1South Carolina (29)11-07251
2Stanford8-26783
3Louisville10-16436
4Arizona10-06424
5NC State11-26162
6Maryland9-35179
7Tennessee9-15047
8Indiana9-250010
9Michigan11-149813
10Baylor9-24875
11UConn6-34577
12Texas8-143511
T-13Georgia10-138117
T-13Iowa State11-138112
15Iowa6-227314
16Duke9-127015
17Georgia Tech9-222518
18South Florida8-321916
19BYU9-115220
20Notre Dame10-213721
21LSU9-113022
22Kentucky7-312719
23Texas A&M9-28223
24Ohio State8-26824
25North Carolina10-06625

Others receiving votes: Colorado 52, Oklahoma 45, DePaul 43, Florida Gulf Coast 42, Nebraska 30
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Tennessee ranked higher than us! Oh the horror!
 
Vowelguy said:
Occasionally = twice in 40+ years (0.2). Both times when 1/2 game was being played on a Monday afternoon (ie an hour or two after the normal poll release time).
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Regarding the AP Football Poll, Wikipedia says that it's their standard operating procedure to not release the next poll at 2 PM on Sunday if any ranked teams have not played yet.

"The football poll is released Sundays at 2pm Eastern time during the football season, unless ranked teams have not finished their games."
 
We're lucky we're not a lot lower. I think #11 when you've got all of 6 fairly unimpressive wins is more than generous. I think we have the worst record of any ranked team and our record just looks out of place with all those other teams with 9-10-11 wins.
 
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I'm not sure I'd want to be the three seniors knowing that they are unfortunately a part of this team dropping out of the top 10. Somehow I think that's more pressure than maintaining streaks. But, there's still time to turn it all around. What they do with this white board motivation remains to be seen. It will show a lot if they are unable (or able) to respond.
 
If you want to quibble about a meaningless ranking, here is a quibble:

Yesterday, on the very same court where UConn and Louisville played, then #5 Baylor lost to then #13 Michigan by about the same number of points as UConn lost to Louisville. So if Baylor lost to a "worse" team than Louisville, how do they end up ranked higher than UConn in the new poll? Granted, not by much (#10 vs. #11).

But really, in December these rankings mean nothing. If the rankings are the same at the end of February, and especially if Paige is not back on the court and playing like her normal self by that point, then these rankings (or, more accurately, the thought process that went into them) could have an effect on NCAA seedings. But as long as UConn doesn't have to play South Carolina before the National Finals, that shouldn't be a concern. UConn with all of its players healthy (if it deserves to be a contender for an NC) should be able to walk through any opponent in the country except the Gamecocks, no matter where in the NCAA tournament it encounters them.
 
VA Huskie said:
Does the poll take into account injuries and how they might impact results, or just results?
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Honestly there are a lot of teams with injuries. I think the fact that you are still in the Top 11 with 3 losses says they are taking injuries somewhat under consideration. Like someone said above, there is no signature win, so there's really no compelling reason to NOT drop them. I think as more of your players get healthy there may be chances to move up, but only if other teams drop down because of losses. I know as a Gamecock fan I don't want to see UConn in my bracket as a lower seed and I think all the higher seeds will feel the same way. In the end, it won't matter that SC is #1 and UConn is #55. What will matter is where we end up at the end.
 
visitingcock said:
I think it's a bit much but not shocking. I'm a pretty big on looking at total SOS and I wonder about some of the teams that jumped you.

Fans of other programs aren't gonna buy the "neutral site" argument though.
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The AP vote is done by people more interested in generating interest than in reflecting reality. Tenn and UConn were tied for 7th despite Tenn being undefeated and UConn losing 2, including 1 unranked team. So form that point Tenn lost by 11 at HOME to (3) Stanford while UConn lost by 5 to (6) Louisville at a neutral site. Tenn dropped 51 votes while UConn lost 101 votes. Was UConn's loss twice as bad as Tenn's? I don't think so but the voters did. Or is this just partly due to it being UConn?
Of course it's a straw poll. Massey, as most teams have 10 games in, is now reflective of this seasons games. UConn is 8th and Tenn is 10th. UConn's SOS is 2 while Tenn's is 4.

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For the record UConn isn't playing at a very high level but like most years there's only one D1 team doing so. Most years that team has been UConn. This year it's SCar. At least right now. Probably the best this that can happen for SCar's psychological well being is to lose to Stanford. If UConn fans know one thing it's the pressure of being an undefeated No 1. And it isn't even xmas yet.
 
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As far as I’m concerned, just more sizzle and no steak.
Get healthy, phase in the players that want to get with Geno’s program and sit the ones that don’t or can’t.
Loyalty to veteran players that can’t rise to the occasion should be off the table.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
Period.
Gonna be a lot of politicking come March to keep UCONN out of their bracket.
 
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Really surprised by the big drop especially when you play a very competitive game with the team ranked higher. Apparently beating UCONN means something as evidenced by Louisville’s rise to #3.

We all know that polls have very little value this early in the season. The important thing is to get into the NCAA tournament. The team has too much talent to be denied entry.
 
Alydar said:
The AP vote is done by people more interested in generating interest than in reflecting reality. Tenn and UConn were tied for 7th despite Tenn being undefeated and UConn losing 2, including 1 unranked team. So form that point Tenn lost by 11 at HOME to (3) Stanford while UConn lost by 5 to (6) Louisville at a neutral site. Tenn dropped 51 votes while UConn lost 101 votes. Was UConn's loss twice as bad as Tenn's? I don't think so but the voters did. Or is this just partly due to it being UConn?
Of course it's a straw poll. Massey, as most teams have 10 games in, is now reflective of this seasons games. UConn is 8th and Tenn is 10th. UConn's SOS is 2 while Tenn's is 4.

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On the NET rankings, Tennessee was ranked 19th and didn't move at all this week and stayed at #19.
Whereas Massey ranks Tennessee at #10.

As far as the effect of our game with Louisville, they moved up one spot to #5 and we moved down one spot to #10.

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JoePgh said:
If you want to quibble about a meaningless ranking, here is a quibble:

Yesterday, on the very same court where UConn and Louisville played, then #5 Baylor lost to then #13 Michigan by about the same number of points as UConn lost to Louisville. So if Baylor lost to a "worse" team than Louisville, how do they end up ranked higher than UConn in the new poll? Granted, not by much (#10 vs. #11).
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7 UConn lost to 6 Louisville by 5 points and drops 4 spots to 11 while Louisville moves to 3
7 Tenn lost to 3 Stanford (w/o Brink for much of the game) by 11 and stays at 7 and Stanford moves to 2.

It's all arbitrary; really unimportant at this time of year. I expect them to be ranked 4/5 by the end of February. I expected UConn to drop to 11/12 last week. I am more worried about the problems Omicron could cause going in to the tournaments. I hope it is not another lost year.
 
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I've seen (on TV) most of the teams currently listed higher than UConn (OK I'm a Women's Basketball addict). UConn (except in the Georgia game) overall looks better than almost all of them. SC is the only team I've seem that looks like a great game with all UConn's players healthy. UConn should have beaten Louisville except going ice cold when it mattered. Not a good thing for sure. I won't get into all the rest but I sure have seen stinkers for them too. Glad the ranking doesn't matter except for bragging rights. I did note 2 facts that said a lot to me: Azzi, Nike,and Aubry are out and needed in Paige's absence - that is one from all recruiting classes except seniors.Someone said in another post the team has looked different since 2017 - hmmm 4 years ago. Coincidence? I don't think so, consistency missing.
 
EdSaid said:
Maybe we should get rid of all the streaks and records and let the kids just play basketball. There is a lot of pressure placed upon these young ladies
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It will not surprise me if UConn loses a conference game or two this year before we can get this thing turned around, probably on the road. :confused: Falling out of the top 10 is another indication that THIS team simply is not that good. We've fallen back to the pack. That gap that was once between us and the rest of WCBB is gone. We lost to an unranked Georgia Tech team. They handed our a** to us while they were beating us. If we catch one of our BE counterparts on the "right night", it could happen again. :eek: We couldn't get untracked, and our shots were not falling.

All of our BIG East conference mates still get up for us. Everyone of them wants to knock us off, and be the first to do so. For most of them, we're still the biggest game on their schedule. The Boneyard would explode if that happens.
 
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cferraro04 said:
If the AP ranked them 7 the week before and they lose in a close game to the number 6...how does that justify a 4 level drop? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Gotta kick em while their down! Opportunities like this don’t come around very often. It’s a small thing. We’ll see where we are at season’s end. Barring further misfortune, I doubt seriously we’ll be at #11!!
 
I can't take the polls too seriously. Whoever does the rankings isn't taking into account the fact that UCONN is currently and temporarily undermanned. Maryland, ranked ahead of us, has three losses too. Two of our losses were to #1 and #3, but I'm preaching to the choir. I was at Mohegan Sun yesterday and watched Michigan v. Baylor. I wasn't impressed with either team, both of which are currently ranked ahead of UCONN. In fact, Louisville v. UCONN looked like a whole other level of basketball even if we didn't play our best game. I think we'll be fine with Big East play, and have our whole squad back in time for the postseason, assuming Griffin also returns. I'm assuming (hopefully) that Paige will.
 
Lynx23 said:
I can't take the polls too seriously. Whoever does the rankings isn't taking into account the fact that UCONN is currently and temporarily undermanned. Maryland, ranked ahead of us, has three losses too. .
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1) And yet the BY poll, by people on this board, has UConn about the same (#9).
2) Why should pollsters take into account longterm injuries? They are asked to rank the best teams. UConn is not one of those teams today. If things work out and players get healthy then hopefully we will be.
 
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something tells me that IF paige comes back and azzi is healthy, and maybe even ag, we will be back in the hunt a whole lot better for it :)
 
I can't argue with it given the state of things AT THIS POINT IN TIME. As always, it will all sort itself out by tournament time. There is still much time left to right the ship, assuming it can be righted.
 
Lynx23 said:
I can't take the polls too seriously. Whoever does the rankings isn't taking into account the fact that UCONN is currently and temporarily undermanned. Maryland, ranked ahead of us, has three losses too. Two of our losses were to #1 and #3, but I'm preaching to the choir. I was at Mohegan Sun yesterday and watched Michigan v. Baylor. I wasn't impressed with either team, both of which are currently ranked ahead of UCONN. In fact, Louisville v. UCONN looked like a whole other level of basketball even if we didn't play our best game. I think we'll be fine with Big East play, and have our whole squad back in time for the postseason, assuming Griffin also returns. I'm assuming (hopefully) that Paige will.
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Maryland also has 3 more wins than we do. At some point you have to rank the teams based on their records, and we have a lot less wins than every other team that's ranked except for Iowa. Some teams have 5 more wins than we do already. I'd consider #11 a gift.
 
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