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AP Poll 11/13

UConnSwag11 said:
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Parrish was pretty candid on his podcast that he didn't want to move Duke too far down because he doesn't want teams punished for playing big nonconf home and homes (especially early in the season) and losing to good teams. It's not the best way to rank teams, but the greater good of the sport sentiment is nice. So he just moved Arizona up ahead of Duke basically.
 
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Marquette 4 (+1)
Connecticut 5 (+1)
Creighton 8 (-)
Villanova 21 (+1)

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St. John's 47
 
Top 5 let’s goooo!

Arizona jumping a lot makes sense. But curious what was different about Purdue’s cupcake wins where they stayed above Zona, compared to Marquette and UConn’s cupcake wins where Zona jumped them

2 BE in the top 5. 3 in the top 10. 4 in the top 25 with 1 just on the outside. Conference is stacked

Shoutout James Madison! First ever appearance in the top 25
 
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aburks41 said:
What exactly did you see from Duke that gives you the confidence that they're going to be a Top 10 team all season? We would beat them by 20 if we played them right now. They looked horrible on offense and have zero interior defense
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Good lord. You don't have to hate Duke to recognize that calling them "atrocious" and dismissing the best win's anyone had so far this season is silly.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Good lord. You don't have to hate Duke to recognize that calling them "atrocious" and dismissing the best win's anyone had so far this season is silly.
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It’s all relative. For a top 3 team, with many people in the media crowning them as having most talented roster, they looked terrible. They don’t rebound, they have zero interior defense, and Scheyer looked like he has no idea how to run an offense.
 
UConn lost 3 guys to the NBA and has not played anybody yet. As a fanbase we know more about the program than the "experts". Clingan still hasn't played more than 16 minutes. There is a cost to playing "cupcakes" early as nobody watches or cares. There is also more of a benefit to the marquee games in the early season as they get more eyeballs. 6-0 going to Kansas will be noticed.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Not if you watched the game - both looked like 12-15th ranked teams.
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Must of watched different games. Arizona will finish as a top 10 team.

With so few data points a win like Arizona had will always (and should) move them up considerably.
 
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auror said:
Parrish was pretty candid on his podcast that he didn't want to move Duke too far down because he doesn't want teams punished for playing big nonconf home and homes (especially early in the season) and losing to good teams. It's not the best way to rank teams, but the greater good of the sport sentiment is nice. So he just moved Arizona up ahead of Duke basically.
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It’ll be interesting if he keeps the same stance when we go to Gonzaga and KANSAS
 
HeGotGame said:
Must of watched different games. Arizona will finish as a top 10 team.

With so few data points a win like Arizona had will always (and should) move them up considerably.
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I get the moving up with few data points, but let's put it like this... would you trade teams with AZ based on what we've seen from us and them? Under no circumstance would I.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
I get the moving up with few data points, but let's put it like this... would you trade teams with AZ based on what we've seen from us and them? Under no circumstance would I.
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No, but I would reward a team for going to Duke and winning over beating Stonehill and NAU at home.

I have no issue with Arizona jumping like they did. Arizona and UConn both play plenty of very good teams in the next 3 weeks, it will all work itself out.
 
aburks41 said:
What exactly did you see from Duke that gives you the confidence that they're going to be a Top 10 team all season? We would beat them by 20 if we played them right now. They looked horrible on offense and have zero interior defense
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Fillipowski is very good and usually a very good player in a mediocre league will do that.

They didn't look great right now. Would we beat them by 20? Who knows? The two teams we have played are absolutely atrocious. Stonehill is mindnumbingly bad. There's almost nothing we can draw from this. I do think both Duke and UConn will be much better by March, though.
 
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tzznandrew said:
That said, I don't think Arizona is going to jump any of the undefeated Top 4. The media had a narrative that there were 6 elite teams (Duke, Kansas, UConn, Purdue, Michigan State, Marquette) and then everyone else. Two of those "elite teams" have lost. Arizona probably jumps to 5-6 and Duke falls to 6-8.
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Well, wrong on Arizona. Really didn't think they'd jump ahead of UConn or Marquette. Whatevs. Second AP poll isn't that important, and as of right now they have the best win in CBB. Well, them or James Madison. Props to JMU for getting ranked.
 
tzznandrew said:
Fillipowski is very good and usually a very good player in a mediocre league will do that.

They didn't look great right now. Would we beat them by 20? Who knows? The two teams we have played are absolutely atrocious. Stonehill is mindnumbingly bad. There's almost nothing we can draw from this. I do think both Duke and UConn will be much better by March, though.
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Flip is the one player who actually stood out. If he is not a lottery pick after this year, then that is a horrible, horrible look for Scheyer and his ability to develop talent. Roach is a decent guard, but nothing special like Dauster (lol) claimed. Their interior is going to kill them. They’re lucky they aren’t in the Big East because they wouldn’t finish top 4 with the front courts that our conference has. And also all the hype around Proctor being the best guard in CBB this year? He did not look like a lottery talent. I don’t understand the hype around him.

It’s early, but I don’t think they’re that good, nor do I think Scheyer has any clue what he’s doing. Just take a look at that inbounds call he drew up on the final play. They’ll beat up on a super weak ACC and then get crushed in the tournament
 
I'm just glad the program and fan base are back to the point of us bickering over being ranked #3, #4, or #5 one week in to the season after only playing two atrocious teams.
 
aburks41 said:
It’s all relative. For a top 3 team, with many people in the media crowning them as having most talented roster, they looked terrible. They don’t rebound, they have zero interior defense, and Scheyer looked like he has no idea how to run an offense.
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Duke gets the full benefit of the doubt. Kansas too. I think those are the only 2 w/ UNC and UK slipping. I think if we have a wire to wire top 10 season we will continue to get more and more of the benefit of the doubt.

And I do think there is a pretty decent chance Duke’s talent is overrated. So much of their hype is predicated on a hot shooting stretch down the stretch by Proctor and the assumption is that he will become an All American level player. Not sure I buy that. Also their roster construction doesn’t fit nearly as well as ours. Flip has his limitations and they don’t look like they will be good at rim protection or rebounding. They have 4 similarly sized high IQ guards, none exactly electric or special at getting to the rim as far as I can tell. No absolute snipers. Maybe McCain? And 2 super athletic but raw 4s. I know I am being swayed my my Duke hatred but I don’t think they are a sure fire top 10 team throughout the season unless their very young guards are absolute studs.
 
aburks41 said:
It’s all relative. For a top 3 team, with many people in the media crowning them as having most talented roster, they looked terrible. They don’t rebound, they have zero interior defense, and Scheyer looked like he has no idea how to run an offense.
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Duke gets the full benefit of the doubt. Kansas too. I think those are the only 2 w/ UNC and UK slipping. I think if we have a wire to wire top 10 season we will continue to get more and more of the benefit of the doubt.

And I do think there is a pretty decent chance Duke’s talent is overrated. So much of their hype is predicated on a hot shooting stretch down the stretch by Proctor and the assumption is that he will become an All American level player. Not sure I buy that. Also their roster construction doesn’t fit nearly as well as ours. Flip has his limitations and they don’t look like they will be good at rim protection or rebounding. They have 4 similarly sized high IQ guards, none exactly electric or special at getting to the rim as far as I can tell. No absolute snipers. Maybe McCain? And 2 super athletic but raw 4s. I know I am being swayed my my Duke hatred but I don’t think they are a sure fire top 10 team throughout the season unless their very yoingguards are absolute studs.
 
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