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Thanks Plebe! Hard for me to write this....but I watched the Oregon Ducks games this weekend, and they looked "tough", meaning, they owned UCLA on the boards yesterday, smothering defense, and, played very well as a unit. I don't see any weaknesses in this team, and, seeing massive maturity from Satou S., who is already showing dominance as a sophomore. This is a team now that doesn't have to depend on Sabrina like they did last year.
Wait, is Kelly Graves coaching Oregon? Oh, ok, I am not worried, now if it was Scott Rueck with that talent, than, I would be worried-Scott yes, Kelly, not so much....:rolleyes:
 
Once again the credibility of the pollsters needs to be questioned along with their logic.

Ranking ND over UConn makes absolutely no sense in view of UConn recently totally embarrassing ND on ND's home court ..S/B Baylor, UConn, ND based on head-to-head competition.

Spare me the nonsense of ND already beating 6 ranked teams. None of those 6 teams could beat UConn.
Notre Dame has the best players. They never cheat. They never commit fouls. They do not get beneficial treatment by the officials. Most of the players could qualify for sainthood, along with their wonderful coach, who is the most outstanding coach in all the land. It doesn't matter that UConn beat them in South Bend. No, no, no,. Notre Dame is very deserving of number one. They have the most talent, the most size, the most accurate shooters, they are the smartest of all students at any university ever. They will go out of their way to help anyone in need. They are truly number 1!
 
Thanks Plebe! You're pretty efficient getting this stuff to us.
Now for my snark:
1. Minnesota has NO BUSINESS being in the top 40 never mind the top 25. They have played an abysmally easy schedule. These voters are LAZY.
#2. We all love the underdog darling, however, Marquette with 3 losses, has no business being ranked as high as they are given their weak schedule. ASU has played a much harder schedule and given team a harder time that Marquette.
#3. NO FREAKIN WAY should Maryland be #9 never mind ahead of OSU.
#4. While a nice story, NC State is a bit of fraud at #8. Wes has done a great job given the injuries but they too, HAVE NOT PLAYED a tough schedule. I suspect they will end up with 3 or 4 ACC losses when all is said and done.
#5. Louisville falling to #4 is odd as well. UConn, Baylor and Louisville all lost on the road to tough opponents but the voters should do some "eye test" assessment. Louisville belongs behind Oregon and Stanford.
#6. SC is rounding into shape but they have some tough games coming up to prove this is not a mirage. Their record against ranked teams this year is not so great.

Ok, I am done. Let me know what I screwed up.
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1. Massey agreed. Minnesota is 54

2. Massey does not agree. Marguette has the 5th best offense (UConn is 7th), and their SOS rating is fifth ( ASU is 9th)

3. Massey does not agree. He has Maryland 11th and OSU 12th.

4. Massey does not agree. NC State is ranked eighth and sixth in defense.

5. Massey agreed. Oregon is 5, Stanford 6 and Louisville 7.

6. Massey does not agree. SC has moved up all the way to 16th.
 
Wait, is Kelly Graves coaching Oregon? Oh, ok, I am not worried, now if it was Scott Rueck with that talent, than, I would be worried-Scott yes, Kelly, not so much....:rolleyes:
Well, Geno’s quotes about Oregon’s hire of Graves when he was hired would lead me to believe he disagrees with you
 
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Once again the credibility of the pollsters needs to be questioned along with their logic.

Ranking ND over UConn makes absolutely no sense in view of UConn recently totally embarrassing ND on ND's home court ..S/B Baylor, UConn, ND based on head-to-head competition.

Spare me the nonsense of ND already beating 6 ranked teams. None of those 6 teams could beat UConn.
Massey does not agree. ND is number one, followed by Baylor and UConn. Given the way UConn has played since the ND game, that seems to make perfect sense.
 
Massey does not agree. ND is number one, followed by Baylor and UConn. Given the way UConn has played since the ND game, that seems to make perfect sense.

Sorry, should have looked at the rough draft. UConn is still second and Baylor third.
 
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Minnesota is still ranked in the coaches poll. smh
And even worse, Tennessee is still #17. Seriously?!

The coaches are notoriously lazy about doing their homework before filling out the ballot. I wonder if they even know who lost and who won.
 
ND being #1 is an absolute no brainer in my book. Baylor would be #2, and no idea who after that.
I think the question for Notre Dame is who among the top 5 or 10 have you played on the road. At season's end I think the answer will be no one. I would think this would play into the week over week ranking but to date, it doesn't seem to be taken into account. UCONN at least has a resume that speaks to playing the top ranked teams on the road, win or lose.
 
Wow, Arizona St. didn't move in the AP poll and moved UP 3 spots in the coaches poll after going 1-1 at home last week. Played from behind most of the game against Stanford and barely eeked out a win against a Cal team that is dropping like a rock.
 
Wow, Arizona St. didn't move in the AP poll and moved UP 3 spots in the coaches poll after going 1-1 at home last week. Played from behind most of the game against Stanford and barely eeked out a win against a Cal team that is dropping like a rock.

Sonoran Desert Bias :rolleyes:
 
Wow, Arizona St. didn't move in the AP poll and moved UP 3 spots in the coaches poll after going 1-1 at home last week. Played from behind most of the game against Stanford and barely eeked out a win against a Cal team that is dropping like a rock.
The rankings are context-dependent. ASU lost to a much higher-ranked team (as expected) and beat a team that was ranked slightly lower. Some teams ahead of Arizona State, meanwhile, lost to unranked teams (Tennessee, Iowa), while other team immediately behind them also suffered unexpected losses. Just who exactly was supposed to be moved ahead of them?
 
I think the question for Notre Dame is who among the top 5 or 10 have you played on the road. At season's end I think the answer will be no one. I would think this would play into the week over week ranking but to date, it doesn't seem to be taken into account. UCONN at least has a resume that speaks to playing the top ranked teams on the road, win or lose.

Her Hoop Stats has a nifty comparison tool. Here's an interesting visual of Uconn's schedule (left) vs. ND's (right)

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The rankings are context-dependent. ASU lost to a much higher-ranked team (as expected) and beat a team that was ranked slightly lower. Some teams ahead of Arizona State, meanwhile, lost to unranked teams (Tennessee, Iowa), while other team immediately behind them also suffered unexpected losses. Just who exactly was supposed to be moved ahead of them?
This is why we have sabermetrics!
 
No love for Marquette and Gonzaga? Serious mistake.

I mean they're ranked either 13 or 14 in either poll, so they are not being ignored. Good argument for Zags to be ranked higher--their two best wins are Stanford and Rutgers, and only loss to #1 ND. Their RPI is #11 and MAssey is #10.
 
Just who exactly was supposed to be moved ahead of them?

Well that's the rub. I just didn't expect them to move up in the polls based on the week they've had. Stanford has had some trouble winning in Tempe recently, it's not like you could automatically chalk that up as a W.
 
I mean they're ranked either 13 or 14 in either poll, so they are not being ignored. Good argument for Zags to be ranked higher--their two best wins are Stanford and Rutgers, and only loss to #1 ND. Their RPI is #11 and MAssey is #10.

Everyone below Gonzaga keeps losing, but not many teams ahead of them have dropped games recently. Oregon and Stanford have been stuck in the same spot for several weeks, they can't seem to move up even when someone ahead of them does lose. Top 4 has been reshuffling but stays the same 4 teams.
 
Massey does not agree. ND is number one, followed by Baylor and UConn. Given the way UConn has played since the ND game, that seems to make perfect sense.

That's not the way pollsters evaluate teams for ranking. Historically they don't pay much attention to the quality of wins or poor losses from week to week.

If going into the week ND was ranked number 1 and UConn 2, and during the week ND had one point wins against Cupcake University and The University of Never Won A Game, and, UConn had beaten each of the 3rd. 4rth and 5th ranked teams by 50 points....ND would still end the week ranked above them.

Its just the way it is with AP and Coaches Polls.
 
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That's not the way pollsters evaluate teams for ranking. Historically they don't pay much attention to the quality of wins or poor losses from week to week.

If, during the week, ND had one point wins against Cupcake University and The University of Never Won A Game, and, UConn had beaten each of the 3rd. 4rth and 5th ranked teams by 50 points....ND would still be ranked above them.

Its just the way it is.
Which explains why Notre Dame has been ranked as the #1 team in the country for 89 of the past 94 weeks. And why UConn never gets a chance to be ranked 1st. :rolleyes:

Oh, but wait. UConn has been ranked 1st almost continuously the past 5 seasons. How did that happen? Maybe because the system works and UConn deserved their ranking. Isn't it possible that they do not deserve the #1 ranking at this point in the present season? Seems like a more parsimonious explanation than some conspiracy theory.
 
Which explains why Notre Dame has been ranked as the #1 team in the country for 89 of the past 94 weeks. And why UConn never gets a chance to be ranked 1st. :rolleyes:

Oh, but wait. UConn has been ranked 1st almost continuously the past 5 seasons. How did that happen? Maybe because the system works and UConn deserved their ranking. Isn't it possible that they do not deserve the #1 ranking at this point in the present season? Seems like a more parsimonious explanation than some conspiracy theory.

You might consider a class in reading comprehension.

I never said or intimated UConn should be ranked number 1.

I never said the system doesn't work...Its entertainment...and through that lens the system works well. Seeding, on the other hand, which partly reflects the polls, is a more accurate reflection of "best"...but that only happens once a year.

What conspiracy?

And...you might want to look up the definition of parsimonious.

:):):)
 
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Only Notre Dame should be number 1 in all sports all the time. They do no wrong. They play the hardest schedule. They attend church daily. They help old ladies across the street. It does not matter that UConn beat them up in South Bend. The temporary ranking of UConn at number 1 was obviously an error that has now been corrected.
 

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