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specialisthusky said:
The same source that posted this over on their board says today he hears its done. Could be a weird coincidence with uva bot meeting or the greatest news ever. Or nothing as usual
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I admire his persistence.
 
Here is why I like this rumor. Everything else you hear is performance related. The rumors are always about the blue chips. This one is different. It's markets driven and it stands out as such. Also it's got a strategic backbone, two clear major market regional pairs in rutgers/uconn and umd/UVA. I know I've been staring at every rumor under the sun for a week, and I also know this is me willing our best option into existence, but my radar is going off.
 
OkaForPrez said:
Here is why I like this rumor. Everything else you hear is performance related. The rumors are always about the blue chips. This one is different. It's markets driven and it stands out as such. Also it's got a strategic backbone, two clear major market regional pairs in rutgers/uconn and umd/UVA. I know I've been staring at every rumor under the sun for a week, and I also know this is me willing our best option into existence, but my radar is going off.
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Well, I no longer think this is patentably unreasonable or totally unbelievable (and I would have even two weeks ago). You have to assume that the Big Ten goes to 16, stops, waits for the SEC and XII to start nibbling at what's left of the ACC until UNC and ND have no choice but to join the Big Ten and get them to a final # of 18.

That would give you a 9 team eastern division of UConn, Rutgers, PSU, Maryland, UNC, UVA, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and either Indiana or Purdue (say Purdue since they play the Irish every year and would balance basketball more) and a 9 team western division of Indiana, Michigan, MSU, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Nebraska and Iowa. My first preference would still be that we join the ACC and it holds together, but I could learn to live with that 18 team Big Ten.
 
businesslawyer said:
Well, I no longer think this is patentably unreasonable or totally unbelievable (and I would have even two weeks ago). You have to assume that the Big Ten goes to 16, stops, waits for the SEC and XII to start nibbling at what's left of the ACC until UNC and ND have no choice but to join the Big Ten and get them to a final # of 18.

That would give you a 9 team eastern division of UConn, Rutgers, PSU, Maryland, UNC, UVA, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and either Indiana or Purdue (say Purdue since they play the Irish every year and would balance basketball more) and a 9 team western division of Indiana, Michigan, MSU, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Nebraska and Iowa. My first preference would still be that we join the ACC and it holds together, but I could learn to live with that 18 team Big Ten.
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This is a scenario I could get behind.

I don't think it is going to happen, but like you, the whole Rutgers/MD move has made me be more open to moves that at least have some logical basis behind them, and I think this does.

Now if only we could make it happen and let me stop reading this board every five minutes rather than doing the work I desperately need to do...
 
tzznandrew said:
This is a scenario I could get behind.

I don't think it is going to happen, but like you, the whole Rutgers/MD move has made me be more open to moves that at least have some logical basis behind them, and I think this does.

Now if only we could make it happen and let me stop reading this board every five minutes rather than doing the work I desperately need to do...
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I don't think it is going to happen either. But I can now see it (as ridiculous as it still seems to me in so many ways).

Oh -- and good luck to us in a 9 team football league with Penn State, Ohio State and Notre Dame. We should all be very careful what we wish for.
 
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businesslawyer said:
I don't think it is going to happen either. But I can now see it (as ridiculous as it still seems to me in so many ways).

Oh -- and good luck to us in a 9 team football league with Penn State, Ohio State and Notre Dame. We should all be very careful what we wish for.
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Isn't that what people said about joining a basketball league with Georgetown, St. John's, and Syracuse?

Look, if that's the conference, I'm buying season tickets every year. You'd get half of those teams at the Rent every year, and some years you'd also get a conference game against Nebraska or Michigan at home. I'd take that every week. Are they going to win a bunch of games every year in this imaginary scenario? Not likely at first. But with the right coach, it's "doable."
 
businesslawyer said:
I don't think it is going to happen either. But I can now see it (as ridiculous as it still seems to me in so many ways).

Oh -- and good luck to us in a 9 team football league with Penn State, Ohio State and Notre Dame. We should all be very careful what we wish for.
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i'll take 6-6 years for ever if we get in. thats the gold bball conf and perfect for all other sports also plus the $ and for ever stability. then, u take uconns track record the past 30 years of building sports programs and give the fball thing a go instead of hanging around with indiana. its doable
 
HuskyfanDan said:
when md and ruty rumors became reality, espn pumped the md side of the rumor but not much of the ruty rumor. heres why. because not to long ago espn/acc passed over uconn ruty and wvu to pick from and added cuse and pitt is the thought. but what happens if it was the opposite? maybe those teams said no knowing already that the b10 was a future goal and possible in time? so espn in return having no $ involved in ruty decided to not give much press. they have $ in md so until the buyout is paid they will still put md in press even tho its a negative for the acc. now we have uva and uconn rumors. kets see what espn does here. when espn first learned md was going, they imediately pumped uconn being the acc's next pick. then literally a day later things went quiet and then they started pumping lville. see what i'm getting at here? they wanted uconn and then found out uconn has a better option so they moved on to lville and then cicny and nvy and so on. espn gives away way to much sometimes....kitty hacked me
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But we really don't. At least not on the same scale. There were a couple of things said going into that weekend from B1G country on the radio. That's far different than this. We have a couple of 'eers suggesting it, and far more forceful denials.
 
junglehusky said:
If that comes to pass, we can dry our tears with money.

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Honestly, why do I care how much money the program makes and spend. What I want is to be able to go to competitive games at a high level.

But, given that the ACC is not a sure bet to survive any more, you can't turn down a Big Ten invite if it domes so it is what it is.
 
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tzznandrew said:
Isn't that what people said about joining a basketball league with Georgetown, St. John's, and Syracuse?

Look, if that's the conference, I'm buying season tickets every year. You'd get half of those teams at the Rent every year, and some years you'd also get a conference game against Nebraska or Michigan at home. I'd take that every week. Are they going to win a bunch of games every year in this imaginary scenario? Not likely at first. But with the right coach, it's "doable."
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No matter how much we would like it to be basketball is not football. And, Connecticut was and is more of a basketball state (in terms of fan support and producing national athletes) than a football state.
 
businesslawyer said:
I don't think it is going to happen either. But I can now see it (as ridiculous as it still seems to me in so many ways).

Oh -- and good luck to us in a 9 team football league with Penn State, Ohio State and Notre Dame. We should all be very careful what we wish for.
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Which is more likely? This happening, or me winning the over $420Million Powerball jackpot tomorrow?:cool:
 
businesslawyer said:
Honestly, why do I care how much money the program makes and spend. What I want is to be able to go to competitive games at a high level.

But, given that the ACC is not a sure bet to survive any more, you can't turn down a Big Ten invite if it domes so it is what it is.
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For me--it's basketball. In that conference you made up, there's some really good basketball, but the only teams better historically than UConn would be Indiana and UNC. I'd wager we'd be more likely to continue our success.
 
businesslawyer said:
I don't think it is going to happen either. But I can now see it (as ridiculous as it still seems to me in so many ways).

Oh -- and good luck to us in a 9 team football league with Penn State, Ohio State and Notre Dame. We should all be very careful what we wish for.
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Bus...could we not have said the same in 1978-79, when UConn entered the Big East in basketball? It would certainly be a great challenge to compete with the football powers mentioned, but we've done it before and I think UConn can do it again.
 
businesslawyer said:
I don't think it is going to happen either. But I can now see it (as ridiculous as it still seems to me in so many ways).

Oh -- and good luck to us in a 9 team football league with Penn State, Ohio State and Notre Dame. We should all be very careful what we wish for.
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We'd see a bump in recruiting....
 
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4UConn said:
Bus...could we not have said the same in 1978-79, when UConn entered the Big East in basketball? It would certainly be a great challenge to compete with the football powers mentioned, but we've done it before and I think UConn can do it again.
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See my prior post.
 
businesslawyer said:
I don't think it is going to happen either. But I can now see it (as ridiculous as it still seems to me in so many ways).

Oh -- and good luck to us in a 9 team football league with Penn State, Ohio State and Notre Dame. We should all be very careful what we wish for.
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What is the max capacity that the Rent can be extended to? With those teams coming in every year, we can build it up big fast and play big boy ball.
 
Marty Jackson said:
We'd see a bump in recruiting....
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Same thing I said when Rutgers joined. If we are competitive in the Big Ten, it will help recruiting (but not by much since all our northeastern competitors are being upgraded as well). If we can't stay competitive, however, good luck.
 
Blue whale said:
What is the max capacity that the Rent can be extended to? With those teams coming in every year, we can build it up big fast and play big boy ball.
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Town of East Hartford got some max capacity stipulation of 60-65,000 written into the initial agreement with the State for construction of the RENT.
 
uconnfan68 said:
Oh man, UNC is leaving!
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I'd read that very much like you...what he didn't say is what is important...and I'm sure what was left out was"but it won't be. We've leaving with Uva for the Big 10 and we'll be opening next season in the Big House"
 
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businesslawyer said:
Translation -- "Would one of you suckers behind me not let the door hit me on my way out."
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I don't think so. Troll the UNC boards...they hate the idea of the Big Ten. There is an awful lot of pride at stake here. UNC and UVA help found the ACC. I have no doubt that they will do whatever they think is necessary to hold it together. I find all rumors of their departure to lack credibility. Likewise, the Big Ten doesn't want southern schools. Maryland barely passes that test, but my best guess is it's as far south as they go.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I don't think so. Troll the UNC boards...they hate the idea of the Big Ten. There is an awful lot of pride at stake here. UNC and UVA help found the ACC. I have no doubt that they will do whatever they think is necessary to hold it together. I find all rumors of their departure to lack credibility. Likewise, the Big Ten doesn't want southern schools. Maryland barely passes that test, but my best guess is it's as far south as they go.
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I don't see UNC blowing up the ACC. I see them waiting until it is clear the ACC is going to blow up anyway for them to bail.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I don't think so. Troll the UNC boards...they hate the idea of the Big Ten. There is an awful lot of pride at stake here. UNC and UVA help found the ACC. I have no doubt that they will do whatever they think is necessary to hold it together. I find all rumors of their departure to lack credibility. Likewise, the Big Ten doesn't want southern schools. Maryland barely passes that test, but my best guess is it's as far south as they go.
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I actually agree with you on this. While I think both UNC and Virginia would do what they need to do to protect themselves, I think they are proud of the ACC and will work very hard to keep it together. I also agree on the big 10 for what that's worth. I just don't see them moving on two southern schools. Maryland is a different animal even from Northern Virginia I think. Particularly if the Big has other options, and I think they do.
 
HuskyHawk said:
I don't think so. Troll the UNC boards...they hate the idea of the Big Ten. There is an awful lot of pride at stake here. UNC and UVA help found the ACC. I have no doubt that they will do whatever they think is necessary to hold it together. I find all rumors of their departure to lack credibility. Likewise, the Big Ten doesn't want southern schools. Maryland barely passes that test, but my best guess is it's as far south as they go.
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I actually agree with you on this. While I think both UNC and Virginia would do what they need to do to protect themselves, I think they are proud of the ACC and will work very hard to keep it together. I also agree on the big 10 for what that's worth. I just don't see them moving on two southern schools. Maryland is a different animal even from Northern Virginia I think. Particularly if the Big has other options, and I think they do.
 
businesslawyer said:
Same thing I said when Rutgers joined. If we are competitive in the Big Ten, it will help recruiting (but not by much since all our northeastern competitors are being upgraded as well). If we can't stay competitive, however, good luck.
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UConn, Rutgers, PSU, Maryland, UNC, UVA, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Purdue

Let's chalk up Notre Dame (who we've beaten) and OSU and automatic losses. Let's say this happens immediately (so PSU isn't great).


They've beaten Maryland this year, have beaten UVA recently. Can beat UNC and Purdue clearly, and the same with Rutgers. So, that means that they can go 6-2 in conference not unreasonably? That doesn't seem too bad. Depending on who their inter-divisional rival is (Indiana? Minnesota?), they might be able to get another win. 7-2?
 
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