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Wait a minute, are we sure these comments are directed at UConn and Calhoun?

Future clarifying quote:

"When I said the AD should remove Calhoun, I meant that to apply to some unknown high school coach. Sorry for the confusion."
 

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Future clarifying quote:

"When I said the AD should remove Calhoun, I meant that to apply to some unknown high school coach. Sorry for the confusion."


No, he obviously meant Andre Drummond should remove Omar Calhoun from his facebook page. Why? Dunno, but it's obvious.
 

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I am going to wager that Mr. Oriakhi's personal APR was not terribly impressive.

He writes like an 11-year mean girl.

What a clown.
 
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Why dont we welcome AO SR to post on this board, we might as well hear what he has to say, at this point. Hes not afraid to post on twitter, and the HC website why not post on the yard. You know he lurks these boards.
 
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The funny thing is a lot of the coaches of all these programs AOS (has an appropriate ring to it) is shopping his kid to are friends w/Calhoun. Not that any of them wouldn't torch a friendship in a half-second to win a national title, but the risk side in renting this kid and his baggage who regressed the year after winning a national title just went up a 1,000 percent.
 

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Why dont we welcome AO SR to post on this board, we might as well hear what he has to say, at this point. Hes not afraid to post on twitter, and the HC website why not post on the yard. You know he lurks these boards.
he has a user here but just lurked for years
 

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He writes like an 11-year mean girl.

No you didn't!

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I said, Boom Boom Boom,
Now let me hear you say AO!
I said, Boom Boom Boom,
Now everybody say AO!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOO!!
 
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Someone needs to unplug AOs Dads internet connection. He needs a timeout
 
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He is a sad pathetic man. I hope he will be satisfied wherever his son goes. All his negativity, I am sur ebothered AO this year. To play for JC is no picnic, but with this negativism in one ear I am sure the year has been a nightmare for AO.
 

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while i disagree with his comments, the fact is that he's a high profile father who i imagine other parents will hear and listen to and give credence to in the arena of public opinion. it's comments like that which could hurt the program going forward if other families listen to it, and why wouldn't they? we can hate the guy all we want, but from the perspective of other families, he's just a parent who feels his kid got screwed by JC and UCONN.

i don't recall, but who is responsible for making sure these kids are on track academically? i know on the women's side, they have team study halls, and the associate head coach is very involved in the academics of the student athletes. someone on the men's side dropped the ball big time. yes of course the players shoulda been doing what they were supposed to, but somebody shoulda been on them....
 
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while i disagree with his comments, the fact is that he's a high profile father who i imagine other parents will hear and listen to and give credence to in the arena of public opinion. it's comments like that which could hurt the program going forward if other families listen to it, and why wouldn't they? we can hate the guy all we want, but from the perspective of other families, he's just a parent who feels his kid got screwed by JC and UCONN.

i don't recall, but who is responsible for making sure these kids are on track academically? i know on the women's side, they have team study halls, and the associate head coach is very involved in the academics of the student athletes. someone on the men's side dropped the ball big time. yes of course the players shoulda been doing what they were supposed to, but somebody shoulda been on them....

I'm sure he's not the first to complain about playing time.

As for the rest, what makes you think that the APR has anything to do with keeping players on track academically? It doesn't. It only requires that they are eligible to play. Whether they are on track or not is practically irrelevant to the APR. If they wanted to make it more relevant, they easily could have by computing the score yearly instead of after every semester.

Lastly, some of the dings against UConn's APR came from seniors who left for pro contracts without finishing courses. So, who dropped the ball?
 

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He can barely write English.
I'm pretty certain it is not his first language. If I posted in Spanish I would expect it to be at least that bad.
 

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I'm sure he's not the first to complain about playing time.

As for the rest, what makes you think that the APR has anything to do with keeping players on track academically? It doesn't. It only requires that they are eligible to play. Whether they are on track or not is practically irrelevant to the APR. If they wanted to make it more relevant, they easily could have by computing the score yearly instead of after every semester.

Lastly, some of the dings against UConn's APR came from seniors who left for pro contracts without finishing courses. So, who dropped the ball?
so all the 1/2 and done's who have played for Kentucky or UNC for the past umpteen years and went pro were somehow able to finish all their courses before they left? how is that possible? it just seems crazy to me that UCONN is the ONLY big name school with such a huge APR problem that it cost us post season playing next year.

if what you are saying is 100% true, then every single super star that these other big programs got are totally responsible and finish their courses before they jump to the NBA, but somehow UCONN ended up with the irresponsible kids who make the jump without finishing their courses? somehow that doesn't make sense to me. maybe it's true tho. Obviously i have no inside scoop lol...
 

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Poor kid. Can't tell Dad to STFU publicly and was caught largely in a no win situation.

Poor kid?!? First off, why do you automatically assume AO doesn't believe this as well? Honestly if yours or any of our fathers had an opinion that could be detrimental to your career (I.e speaking with disgust about a current or prior program I was involved in) I would sit him down and tell him to not let his opinions go public for the sake of my career. I know my father would respect those wishes. All this tells me is AO hasn't made it a point to tell his father to stop these shananigans, therefore, it's way for AO to indirectly take jabs at UConn without doing so himself. Unless your of the mindset that his father has gone rogue and is uncontrollable, but I'd put my money on the fact that AO has not asked his father to stop spewing venom towards UConn's direction.
 
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I don't know exactly what Alex is thinking. His dad a bat crap crazy. I don't wish Alex any ill will, but if he ends up spending a lot of his time seeing the floor from the bench watching younger and more talented kids play his position, maybe Daddy O will begin to realize it wasn't JC's fault after all.

I probably shouldn't bother chiming in yet again with the same point, but both JC and George both gave Alex plenty of opportunity to play and improve his game, but he flat out stunk this season, especially early on. It's not like JC taught him to foul his brains out every game, fumble the ball, get it knocked out of his hands, stand around confused, not box out, throw up wild off-balanced shots, etc., etc. As much as I rooted for Alex, he simply digressed this past season. IMO, he's a player who had deficiencies (bad hands and not a lot of lift) that could have more than made up for it with hard work, high motor and playing as if every rebound was his. If he had played anywhere close to what I just described, JC would have left him out there for longer minutes and would have put up solid numbers.

He and his father have no one to blame but himself. Now maybe, UConn needs to hire a proven big-man's coach. It does seem like our bigs have not been improving offensively lately, as far as their post game and rebounding is concerned. The lack of boxing out has bothered me for the last few years. I don't know if it's a matte of the coaches not teaching these things well or not keeping them accountable, or the players simply not learning and applying what they are taught. With that said, IMO, you can never blame a coach for players not making the effort type of plays, which IMO, Alex lacked big time.

If he goes somewhere else and plays like a mad-man getting double digit rebounds and double digit points even if they are effort (offensive rebounds, run the court, FTs, simply power moves, etc.) points, then good for him. Maybe another coach can do a better job of motivating Alex. I've seen JC really get into some players head and sometimes in a bad way, but that's not what I saw between JC and AO on a regular basis. JC often praised Alex. He tried a lot of different things to motivate him. People forget that there were mixed reports when he came to UConn. Some said he had a high motor and but a few reports said that he had a tendency to take plays off. I remember seeing him get outworked and positioned for RBs in that McD AA game. He simple turned around and waited for the rebound to come to him. Now you see a lot of that in these all-star games, but since he wasn't a big time run-and-jump type big, I thought he was the type that needed to use his effort and strength to beat you. Well IMO, he carried that same lack of effort and motor to make up for what he didn't have. If his next coach can figure out a way to motivate a high motor out of AO, then maybe he's making the right decision. If that happens, I still see no blame landing on JC for this.

Regardless to what Daddy-O tweets, I hope Alex takes responsibility for what took place and will take place on the court. Time we move on people!
 
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Poor kid?!? First off, why do you automatically assume AO doesn't believe this as well? Honestly if yours or any of our fathers had an opinion that could be detrimental to your career (I.e speaking with disgust about a current or prior program I was involved in) I would sit him down and tell him to not let his opinions go public for the sake of my career. I know my father would respect those wishes. All this tells me is AO hasn't made it a point to tell his father to stop these shananigans, therefore, it's way for AO to indirectly take jabs at UConn without doing so himself. Unless your of the mindset that his father has gone rogue and is uncontrollable, but I'd put my money on the fact that AO has not asked his father to stop spewing venom towards UConn's direction.

No young man should have to tell his father not to be publicly speaking about his career.

You don't think AO is good enough to play for UConn, ignoring all the hard evidence to the contrary -- that's fine, you are entitled to your opinion. But your hatred for him is really beyond belief. I can't imagine how you can hate an athlete for not being good enough for you.
 
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Looking at Alex's twitter, it seems like he is legitimately embarrassed and upset about his dad's comments.
 
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so all the 1/2 and done's who have played for Kentucky or UNC for the past umpteen years and went pro were somehow able to finish all their courses before they left? how is that possible? it just seems crazy to me that UCONN is the ONLY big name school with such a huge APR problem that it cost us post season playing next year.

First off, the rule was just instituted. Look up the scores, UConn had higher scores than Kentucky in some years. Of the 7 years they've been keeping score, UConn has been higher than Kentucky 3 times. As we've said, you don't have to finish up any courses. You simply can be eligible by taking fluff intersession courses. These won't put you on track to a degree but they will keep you eligible. Even better, the aPR is calculated at the end of every term. If it were calculated at the end of every year (which makes more sense to me) Kentucky's scores would be below UConn's. Why? Because you get one point for eligiblity and one point for retention. With the calculations at the end of each term, Kentucky scores 3 points for every one and done out of a possible four. If it were calculated at the end of each year, Kentucky would score 1 point out of a possible 2 for every one and done. They would then be banned. So, the system puts emphasis remaining eligible, and not on graduating. That's why you're much better off with a one and done (who gives you 75% of the possible score) rather than a senior like Gavin Edwards who completes 3 1/2 years of schooling, presumably toward a degree, and then leaves his spring semester. His leaving only gives you 50% of your possible score.

By the way, 13 BCS schools fell afoul of the APR rule this year, including Florida and Syracuse. The NCAA simply chose not to enforce it this year.

if what you are saying is 100% true, then every single super star that these other big programs got are totally responsible and finish their courses before they jump to the NBA, but somehow UCONN ended up with the irresponsible kids who make the jump without finishing their courses? somehow that doesn't make sense to me. maybe it's true tho. Obviously i have no inside scoop lol...

It all depends on the courses. UConn's scores shot up in the last two years. By "coincidence," in their waiver, Herbst mentions that the school has moved to mandatory intersession courses (3 of them) for basketball players. Then we hear about the one week intersession course when they were visiting art galleries in NYC over Xmas break. That's what UConn wasn't doing before, and maybe other schools were doing that. I'm not going to say that UConn should have been doing that. College is not a place where we should have proscriptions like this. It cheapens the whole thing. But I also wonder why the intersession courses aren't mandatory for ALL student-athletes.
 

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oh that makes sense upstater. thanks. obviously i'm not an expert in the APR and how it affects UCONN...
 

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No young man should have to tell his father not to be publicly speaking about his career.

You don't think AO is good enough to play for UConn, ignoring all the hard evidence to the contrary -- that's fine, you are entitled to your opinion. But your hatred for him is really beyond belief. I can't imagine how you can hate an athlete for not being good enough for you.

Lol, your too much, who said I hate the guy. Just because I happen to say the hard truth does not in any way mean I hate him, I have no ill will against him, sometimes the truth just hurts.

And don't forget, he's the one who started all this social media nonsense by calling coach an idiot, and trying to retract it by saying it meant boss, ya nice try. Like father, like son...(but yes you are right, no young man should have to tell his father to stop doing such things, but any father would stop them if the son asked them to)
 
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I'm pretty certain it is not his first language. If I posted in Spanish I would expect it to be at least that bad.

Couldn't care less. He is a balloon knot And if I wrote like him I wouldn't post.
 
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