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nomar said:
Michael Fay.

Besides Midnight Express, which Tom mentioned above, there were also a couple movies that came out in the late 1990s and showed what happens if you're caught in a 3rd world Asian country with drugs: Brokedown Place, with Clare Daines and Kate Beckinsale, and Return to Paradise, with Vince Vaughn and Joaquin Phoenix.

Now this dude probably hasn't seen those movies. But he's been LIVING there. But no matter how dumb he is, the law is ridiculous, and I feel terrible for him and his family.
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Seeing the movie Hostel was enough for me to know not to mess around in other countries, I saw Midnight express during the height of Covid.
 
Scoe said:
Seeing the movie Hostel was enough for me to know not to mess around in other countries, I saw Midnight express during the height of Covid.
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Midnight Express is a forgotten but very good movie. I once met Paul Smith, the actor who portrayed the big prison guard. As I shook his hand, I told him I hated him in Midnight Express. He stopped and scrunched his eyebrows for a second and then broke out into a deep laugh and said "well that was the point wasn't it ?" Nice guy and very gracious with his time.
 
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nomar said:
Michael Fay.

Besides Midnight Express, which Tom mentioned above, there were also a couple movies that came out in the late 1990s and showed what happens if you're caught in a 3rd world Asian country with drugs: Brokedown Place, with Clare Daines and Kate Beckinsale, and Return to Paradise, with Vince Vaughn and Joaquin Phoenix.

Now this dude probably hasn't seen those movies. But he's been LIVING there. But no matter how dumb he is, the law is ridiculous, and I feel terrible for him and his family.
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It's ridiculous by our standards but I'm sure they look at how relaxed we are with our laws and enforcement of our laws and think we're ridiculous. In 2022 Indonesia's murder rate was .3 per 100,000 people. The US murder rate was 6.3 per 100,000 people.

You can come to the US and make a mockery out of our laws but it's not like that in many other places in the world. I feel terrible for him and his family but he brought it on himself.
 
temery said:
I didn't need to, I saw Midnight Express.
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I've been to that prison. Really, I was stationed in Turkey and it was a tourist destination for us GI's, just to see it at least from the outside. I've seen the inside of the stockade of Ft Lewis too, and hoo boy were my guys happy to see me! (Because if I was there, it meant I was bringing you home.)
 
Kitaman said:
So what action does Malaysia take against Thailand for knowingly shipping drugs?

Thailand could have warned the buyer. You know like all export packages to Malaysia may be subject to search.

Just saying a young life and family will be permanently destroyed over a very stupid and ignorant action of a kid who fafo.

As a parent this was tough to see (potentially put to death) especially being gummies involved, which Americans practically dismiss here. I'm having a hard time comprehending the amount of trouble he's in.
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A 34 year old is still a kid?
 
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I have traveled the world. Rule #1 is follow local laws. I feel bad for the guy, but what're ya gonna do
 
superjohn said:
It's ridiculous by our standards but I'm sure they look at how relaxed we are with our laws and enforcement of our laws and think we're ridiculous. In 2022 Indonesia's murder rate was .3 per 100,000 people. The US murder rate was 6.3 per 100,000 people.

You can come to the US and make a mockery out of our laws but it's not like that in many other places in the world. I feel terrible for him and his family but he brought it on himself.
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I agree. The laws may be especially strict but they believe that's preferable to having millions of homeless and drug addled citizens wasting finite resources.
 
superjohn said:
It's ridiculous by our standards but I'm sure they look at how relaxed we are with our laws and enforcement of our laws and think we're ridiculous. In 2022 Indonesia's murder rate was .3 per 100,000 people. The US murder rate was 6.3 per 100,000 people.

You can come to the US and make a mockery out of our laws but it's not like that in many other places in the world. I feel terrible for him and his family but he brought it on himself.
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That's the cost of freedom, and I say that without judgment one way or the other. One of those freedoms is the freedom that the Supreme Court says is afforded by the Second Amendment. 80% of US murders involve guns. (Presumably some material percentage of those also involve drugs.)

Personally, I wouldn't want to live somewhere with a government as repressive as Indonesia's, even though I'd expect to be able to avoid doing stupid stuff such as vandalizing cars and importing THC gummies.
 
kobebeanbryant said:
Can almost guarantee that the “laws are laws” folks here would be singing a completely different tune if one of their adult children got caught breaking a foreign law.

The mental gymnastics would be olympic gold level.
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Man unknowingly performs mental gymnastics.
 
nomar said:
That's the cost of freedom, and I say that without judgment one way or the other. One of those freedoms is the freedom that the Supreme Court says is afforded by the Second Amendment. 80% of US murders involve guns. (Presumably some material percentage of those also involve drugs.)

Personally, I wouldn't want to live somewhere with a government as repressive as Indonesia's, even though I'd expect to be able to avoid doing stupid stuff such as vandalizing cars and importing THC gummies.
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Saudi Arabia's got a pretty low crime rate too. I'm not dying to move there.
 
It is delusional to write scripts for other countries about what is "fair". People who travel even in this country have to do such things as take off their shoes, have their luggage searched etc. I not only feel bad for people who fall into these situations but it is terrifying what can happen to even in the wrong hood in this country let alone a foreign country jail or prison. We have Mexico right next door and it is about as dangerous as any place on earth. When you become an adult you need to act responsibly and that often means don't even go there let alone have drugs sent to you. Times have changed.
 
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nomar said:
That's the cost of freedom, and I say that without judgment one way or the other. One of those freedoms is the freedom that the Supreme Court says is afforded by the Second Amendment. 80% of US murders involve guns. (Presumably some material percentage of those also involve drugs.)

Personally, I wouldn't want to live somewhere with a government as repressive as Indonesia's, even though I'd expect to be able to avoid doing stupid stuff such as vandalizing cars and importing THC gummies.
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I wouldn't want to live there either but I respect their laws.
 
I wish we had a death penalty for heroin and fentanyl selling / trafficking.
 
132 pieces of cannabis candies or 38 ounces (nearly 3 pounds) is some serious weight even here. Even if he was stupid he knew what he was doing in that Country and the seriousness of the consequences.

Still a horrible situation though that appears hopeless.
 
JakeTheDog said:
You have to be olympic level stupid to not know Indonesia has incredibly strict drug laws. The dude is 34, there’s really no excuse.
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Played at Oklahoma State and Utah State. Didn't say anything about going to school, perhaps he can't read? :eek:

PS the article says they were Delta 9 THC gummies, which you can buy legally in CT outside dispensaries under a certain concentration.
 
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There's no way he wouldn't have heard not to do it. It's not a matter of him having to research laws lmao
 
He got released by his team immediately so obviously it's a league rule as one would expect.
 
Not to get too OT to this thread but did you all hear that 10 inmates from a New Orleans jail escaped and apparently got helped from the inside.
 
Scoe said:
Not to get too OT to this thread but did you all hear that 10 inmates from a New Orleans jail escaped and apparently got helped from the inside.
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Yeah that story's been the talk of my office today. What?
 
Leebo said:
There's no way he wouldn't have heard not to do it. It's not a matter of him having to research laws lmao
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In Shaw’s third season in Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim nation, there’s zero chance he wouldn’t know something about Sharia law nor know nothing about strictly prohibits recreational drug use. A true Rand McNally hoopster, he’s played in many nations in Asia, the Middle East, Africa, South America, the Caribbean, and Mexico. Playing previously in Thailand, Tunisia, andbparticularly in Saudi Arabia, Shaw certainly was exposed to strict dictates inconsistent with his recreational drug use and stated distribution plans.
 
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Scoe said:
Not to get too OT to this thread but did you all hear that 10 inmates from a New Orleans jail escaped and apparently got helped from the inside.
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1 guy captured after being found underneath a car in the French Quarter. 9 to go, and likely some of the 10 escapees identity their prison staff helper.
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
Malaysia and Thailand have similar drugs laws as Indonesia where the 34 year old “kid” pulled his dumb ph|uck idiocy. Thailand has zero responsibility for the latter’s actions nor those of the seller or EMS World shipment. Obviously, Malaysia has absolutely zero involvement.
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Wouldn’t the league give foreign players a list of Laws That Shouldn’t Be Broken?
 
HuskyNan said:
Wouldn’t the league give foreign players a list of Laws That Shouldn’t Be Broken?
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Someone should have. An agent, an official from the league or his team's office. Someone who helps facilitate US players moving there to play professional basketball has to be at least somewhat aware of the potential pitfalls if a player behaves as if he is still in the US.
 
FAFO, can't get enough.
 
Fishy said:
Other countries have laws, too.

Maybe follow them.

I’ve never been there and even I know Asia has the toughest drug laws on the planet. He’s just stupid.
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Yeah they make more money shipping poppy straw to the US
 
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