American Athletic Coaches Talk Anonymously About Conference Foes for 2019

[ShakyTheMohel]

Rod Carey’s base salary is approximately $800k more than our HC OC and DC combined

That's because of the horrendous coaching hires.

My point was that you made it sound like it's impossible to win at UConn. But if Temple has figured it out, so can UConn. We just need to recover from PP, BD and KO disasters.

 

[metsfan2323]

Someone might want to mention to that anonymous coach that HCRE never coached in the AAC.

It must have been Charlie Strong or Dana Holgerson making that statement.. Both coached in the Big East. Technically its the same league with many different teams.

Personally I think this league is every bit as competitive as the Big East was and it is certainly better than the 2010 Big East. The head coaching talent in this league is outstanding and everyone now is playing the spread option offenses which wasn't the case in 2010. The AAC also does not have Schiano coaching in it.

 

[Storrs South]

Rod Carey’s base salary is approximately $800k more than our HC OC and DC combined

Which I imagine is the result of UConn making significantly greater investments in MBB/WBB based due to historical success and a fanbase that expects that level of success going forward, something which Temple has not had in forever/ever.

I guess just the problem of being spread so thin when you have 3 revenue sports compared to 2. In a way it's a good problem to have (who doesn't want to have more revenue streams), but also unless you're getting P5 money someone is going to get squeezed on budget.

 

[SirHypeAlot]

Yeah, you don’t really need to coach in the AAC to sniff this one out.

They are going to jam the ball into the line with two mediocre backs and a middling offensive line. The tight end and receivers aren’t even CAA quality. They might have the worst quarterbacks assembled in FBS.

The roster is a barren wasteland and they will hope to beat Wagner, UMass and catch someone sleeping to go 3-9. They are going to get dismantled by every team with a pulse.

I was randomly checking local rosters today and look who will likely be the starting qb at Sacred Heart this year...our old friend Logan Marchi. He would start here. They also play Wagner so we’ll have some reference

Logan Marchi

Logan Marchi

www.shubigred.com

 

[whaler11]

I was randomly checking local rosters today and look who will likely be the starting qb at Sacred Heart this year...our old friend Logan Marchi. He would start here. They also play Wagner so we’ll have some reference

Logan Marchi

Logan Marchi

www.shubigred.com

lol at his stats against Mars Hill.

 

[Drew]

Which I imagine is the result of UConn making significantly greater investments in MBB/WBB based due to historical success and a fanbase that expects that level of success going forward, something which Temple has not had in forever/ever.

I guess just the problem of being spread so thin when you have 3 revenue sports compared to 2. In a way it's a good problem to have (who doesn't want to have more revenue streams), but also unless you're getting P5 money someone is going to get squeezed on budget.

It’s not that I don’t understand the reasoning behind the decisions that are made I just wanted to point out why this is a more difficult job than Temple as of now. I still believe if the university ever committed to D1 high level FBS football it could be special here but that’s a risk that isn’t worth taking if you’re the AD given the mentality of the fan base

 

[noeynox]

That's because of the horrendous coaching hires.

My point was that you made it sound like it's impossible to win at UConn. But if Temple has figured it out, so can UConn. We just need to recover from PP, BD and KO disasters.

1st step, pay a competitive salary to the coaching staff. They have to figure that out. If Temple is paying their HC that much more than we are paying, that's a problem.

 

[Hoophound]

We are paying Edsall nothing because we could, which allowed us to fire Diaco. That issue should be just about taken care of. Next time we hire a coach, I expect better pay. If Edsall wins, I expect him to get paid more. This was a creative way to get rid of Diaco.

 

[B1GEast]

If Buffalo and N ill can compete as MAC teams, Uconn has no excuse. None

 

[BlueDogs]

We can compete. There is room in New England for a quality college football program. We just have to catch a little lightening and build on it. Why not start this year.

 

[SubbaBub]

The problem is that 3/4 of the roster was here when they went 1-11. FB programs don't turn around overnight.

Either watching 10 freshmen getting torched last year helped then play better this year or it didn't. We are going to score about 20/gm. Can we hold the lesser opponents under that, then the answer is yes.

That doesn't mean Whaler's assessment isn't making me sad. cause it is.

 

[Life Is Good]

This program has gotten so ridiculous that halfway through camp someone finally noticed that Leon hadn’t thrown a ball yet... oh yeah he’s injured *shrug*.

So now youve got a D2 transfer coming off a FY injury and a kid that Edsall buried behind Washington.

Pindell is going to seem like Pat White when you’ve watched the 4th straight 3rd and 6 flutter incomplete to the ground.

Our QB situation isn’t the greatest but at least we don’t have a running back/athlete playing quarterback. Both Beaudry and Krajewski will be able to pass better than Pindell and spread the field. Looking at things in retrospect I think Edsall buried Krajewski because he wanted to save Washington “from the streets.” RE mentioned that in several interviews and gave MW numerous chances to prove himself. Unfortunately, MW was released and transferred to Last Chance U.

 

[whaler11]

Our QB situation isn’t the greatest but at least we don’t have a running back/athlete playing quarterback. Both Beaudry and Krajewski will be able to pass better than Pindell and spread the field. Looking at things in retrospect I think Edsall buried Krajewski because he wanted to save Washington “from the streets.” RE mentioned that in several interviews and gave MW numerous chances to prove himself. Unfortunately, MW was released and transferred to Last Chance U.

Yes SK was behind Washington on the 3 deep because Edsall was saving Washington from the streets.

Solid take. You fit in great here.

 

[Life Is Good]

Yes SK was behind Washington on the 3 deep because Edsall was saving Washington from the streets.

Solid take. You fit in great here.

Hey Whaler, maybe this will refresh your memory.

WATCH: Randy Edsall Wants More Accountability From Backup QB Marvin Washington

This is the second time this season, Marvin Washington has not made a road trip with the team.

www.theuconnblog.com

 

[whaler11]

how many waivers can you get?

Source: Tate Martell didn't practice Monday

Manny Diaz named Jarren Williams the team's starter earlier in the day.

247sports.com

 

[Bubba1957]

Wow. Seems like some of you had your cheerios peed on this morning. Mensah had over 1,000 yards last year. Thompson have proven himself. Rose was recruited as a TE by Wisconsin and others. Williams is going to be a threat at TE. The O-line will continue to improve as they have the last two years. To say SK was "buried" behind MW is a huge overstatement. He's a red shirt freshman for Pete's sake! He could have been behind for a number of reason. Maybe Randy was just making a point. No reason to not be optimistic about Beaudry either. Randy seems pleased with what he's seeing. I'm optimistic and I think there are good reasons for it.

 

[Life Is Good]

Wow. Seems like some of you had your cheerios peed on this morning. Mensah had over 1,000 yards last year. Thompson have proven himself. Rose was recruited as a TE by Wisconsin and others. Williams is going to be a threat at TE. The O-line will continue to improve as they have the last two years. To say SK was "buried" behind MW is a huge overstatement. He's a red shirt freshman for Pete's sake! He could have been behind for a number of reason. Maybe Randy was just making a point. No reason to not be optimistic about Beaudry either. Randy seems pleased with what he's seeing. I'm optimistic and I think there are good reasons for it.

Agreed. Those are some reasons SK was “buried” but one of them was not lack of talent as alluded by Whaler. The QB’s are still young and inexperienced. They will be fine and will develop just like the rest of the team. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

 

[whaler11]

Wow. Seems like some of you had your cheerios peed on this morning. Mensah had over 1,000 yards last year. Thompson have proven himself. Rose was recruited as a TE by Wisconsin and others. Williams is going to be a threat at TE. The O-line will continue to improve as they have the last two years. To say SK was "buried" behind MW is a huge overstatement. He's a red shirt freshman for Pete's sake! He could have been behind for a number of reason. Maybe Randy was just making a point. No reason to not be optimistic about Beaudry either. Randy seems pleased with what he's seeing. I'm optimistic and I think there are good reasons for it.

Agreed. Those are some reasons SK was “buried” but one of them was not lack of talent as alluded by Whaler. The QB’s are still young and inexperienced. They will be fine and will develop just like the rest of the team. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

Congrats to Big Red @temery

You’ve cultivated the best mix of stupidity and polite trolling found anywhere on the interwebz.

It’s beyond amazing that lab rats learn from getting shocked in experiments but actual human beings don’t.

UConn’s best tight end is at a school that hasn’t throw a pass to a tight end in like a decade. And he’d also probably be the best QB on the roster too.

 

[CL82]

This program has gotten so ridiculous that halfway through camp someone finally noticed that Leon hadn’t thrown a ball yet... oh yeah he’s injured *shrug*.

So now youve got a D2 transfer coming off a FY injury and a kid that Edsall buried behind Washington.

Pindell is going to seem like Pat White when you’ve watched the 4th straight 3rd and 6 flutter incomplete to the ground.

I don't know, Pindell was solid player who fought on every play but he wasn't a great passer. I'm hopeful that we can stretch the field more this year due a combination of factors and that makes up for the loss of a kid who create yardage out broken plays.

 

[whaler11]

I don't know, Pindell was solid player who fought on every play but he wasn't a great passer. I'm hopeful that we can stretch the field more this year due a combination of factors and that makes up for the loss of a kid who create yardage out broken plays.

Pindell convinced people the offensive line is promising.

I know people are just being hopeful about the quarterbacks and hoping Edsall is playing some dopey game... that first game is gonna be something around here.

 

[Exit 4]

Pindell convinced people the offensive line is promising.

I know people are just being hopeful about the quarterbacks and hoping Edsall is playing some dopey game... that first game is gonna be something around here.

I am optimistic the D will be substantially improved. Nothing to base that on other than good things I hear about Spanos and player development. I’m more worried the OL might disappoint and Guifre will struggle to create a balanced offense to counter opposing teams that will just stuff the box. Last year never gave us the opportunity to decide if electric leggs Pindell was running because he could or because he had too. Seemed like the latter more than the former. This offense better figure out a moderate passing game if we aren’t blowing DLs off the line off on run plays.

 

[whaler11]

I am optimistic the D will be substantially improved. Nothing to base that on other than good things I hear about Spanos and player development. I’m more worried the OL might disappoint and Guifre will struggle to create a balanced offense to counter opposing teams that will just stuff the box. Last year never gave us the opportunity to decide if electric leggs Pindell was running because he could or because he had too. Seemed like the latter more than the former. This offense better figure out a moderate passing game if we aren’t blowing DLs off the line off on run plays.

Ugh the one thing I try to forget is the coordinators. It’s more depressing than the recruiting.

An offensive line coach who got the coordinator job by default with almost no skill position talent.

Whatever the defense gains the offense is going to give back. They are so thin at QB/RB/TE that everyone is going to be in non-contact jerseys at practice.

 

[Hoophound]

Ugh the one thing I try to forget is the coordinators. It’s more depressing than the recruiting.

An offensive line coach who got the coordinator job by default with almost no skill position talent.

Whatever the defense gains the offense is going to give back. They are so thin at QB/RB/TE that everyone is going to be in non-contact jerseys at practice.

I think Whaler11 is being a hair dramatic here, but just barely. There isn’t much reason to think we will be obviously better. A little better, probably. I fear what the defense gains, the QB change gives back. Pindell produced some yardage. Thompkins will be a nice addition that might help the offense quite a bit.

If Edsall is really going to get us back to respectability, I’d look toward 2020 and even then, I’m thinking 5 wins. I want to be wrong but we just don’t have good reason to expect more. We are relying on him having recruited great under the radar players. We can’t look down the roster and point to all the talent. They are all wildcards. They need to grow and develop even if they have the talent.

 

[whaler11]

I think Whaler11 is being a hair dramatic here, but just barely. There isn’t much reason to think we will be obviously better. A little better, probably. I fear what the defense gains, the QB change gives back. Pindell produced some yardage. Thompkins will be a nice addition that might help the offense quite a bit.

If Edsall is really going to get us back to respectability, I’d look toward 2020 and even then, I’m thinking 5 wins. I want to be wrong but we just don’t have good reason to expect more. We are relying on him having recruited great under the radar players. We can’t look down the roster and point to all the talent. They are all wildcards. They need to grow and develop even if they have the talent.

How in the world can you use 2020 wins a proxy for improvement? They don’t have a schedule.

 

[Hoophound]

I’m assuming that we will have a similar schedule with maybe two FCS wins and 3 “real wins”. My point was that a maximum 5 win season against pretty much any schedule is all I expect. If we somehow have an incredibly strong schedule, then I’d adjust accordingly. Regardless, it is rather obvious what I was saying. 5 wins would be progress based on what we’ve seen recently and what we know about our players.

 

[billybud]

It is preseason...a time when optimism should reign until reality dictates something different.

Read in your best Trump tweet voice:

UConn will win this year. I dont know how many but it's going to be a lot of games. And rhey will play very, very well. Believe me, I know how very good they will play.

I tell myself that every morning but just substitute my alma mater.

 

[ZooCougar]

Then Big East was better then than the AAC is now. It was a P5/BCS League.

That helped us so much in recruiting. And our recruiting on paper wasn’t all that back then. We don’t have that carrot anymore.

This is a ridiculously hard job. Without the BCS we don’t upgrade. If we win more than 3 games this season I will be shocked.

 

[pepband99]

Ugh the one thing I try to forget is the coordinators. It’s more depressing than the recruiting.

An offensive line coach who got the coordinator job by default with almost no skill position talent.

Whatever the defense gains the offense is going to give back. They are so thin at QB/RB/TE that everyone is going to be in non-contact jerseys at practice.

I'll give you the OC - the hiring process does not instill confidence here.

Spanos is different, though - I'm hoping he's more Don Brown-crazy than Bob Diaco-crazy, though. He's certainly certifiable.

I like our RB core - the O'Reilly injury was a killer last year.

QB? Lord knows. My only hope is that a combination of tenure and emphasis (from the OC) yields better OL results, which yields less impact of losing Pindell's skillset.

 

[BlueDogs]

Then Big East was better then than the AAC is now. It was a P5/BCS League.

That helped us so much in recruiting. And our recruiting on paper wasn’t all that back then. We don’t have that carrot anymore.

This is a ridiculously hard job. Without the BCS we don’t upgrade. If we win more than 3 games this season I will be shocked.

This is true. We have killed the football program in favor of the orange bouncing ball so people can re-live the past and feel good. I do think we can build a formidable program with decent scheduling and if we can get some momentum. If Boise State in the middle of nowhere can do it, it's possible. albeit they at lest have a conference. I remain unrealistically hopeful in August until shiked and disappointed for the 9th year in a row.

Congrats to Big Red @temery

You’ve cultivated the best mix of stupidity and polite trolling found anywhere on the interwebz.

It’s beyond amazing that lab rats learn from getting shocked in experiments but actual human beings don’t.

UConn’s best tight end is at a school that hasn’t throw a pass to a tight end in like a decade. And he’d also probably be the best QB on the roster too.

I remain unrealistically hopeful in August until being shocked and disappointed for the 9th year in a row.

 

[pepband99]

UConn’s best tight end is at a school that hasn’t throw a pass to a tight end in like a decade. And he’d also probably be the best QB on the roster too.

This is bordering on new signature territory. You're either 1000% wrong or nostradamus. Leaning towards earlier, but let's see...

Never mind that GIT isn't triple-option anymore. And that Rose was a much better-regarded TE. The QB statement is insane on its face, but this is just your usual hyperbole, so I'll ignore it.

It's mid-August, and Whaler is on the negative train - season must be upon us!