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Am I the only one who thinks KO should not be the next head coach??

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ddooky said:
Agree with PhilG. KO can't be the next coach. Love him and all he has done and all he stands for. Has great potential but only 2 years as an assistant and no head coaching experience means he can't be the next coach.
I've said I think it's going to be Tom Moore or Steve Pikiell because I'm trying to think of how it's going to go down between JC and Manuel. JC has never said "I want KO to replace me." It's always been something to the effect of "I want someone from the family to replace me." It's been the rumor mongers and some idiots like ESPN's Andy Katz who have deduced it must be KO, so it's become consensus. Now Manuel clearly seems to be indicating he is not comfortable giving it to KO with the lack of experience. Manuel also seems smart enough to not piss off JC on the way out the door so they will sit down and come to a compromise. "Jim, I'm not comfortable with KO's lack of experience, so who else do you recommend so we can keep this thing in the family?" In my mind, having seen a lot of Quinnipiac games, Moore would be a great compromise. 13 years of high major AAU recruiting contacts, which this current "recruiting staff" sorely lacks. 13 years of ties to all the current UConn NBA alums. 5 years of head coaching experience where he's averaged 21 wins per year over the last three years at a place that had only won more than 21 twice in the history of the school. And he comes with JC's strong endorsement.
Now, I'm not saying this is what should happen....but I could certainly see it going this way.
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Zero chance it goes down that way.

KO bring continuity. He already has a relationship with the players and incoming recruits. That's a big part of what he's bringing to the table. The weight that Manuel places on these two items will go a long way to determining if Kevin gets the job. Other "family members", who aren't on staff now, don’t bring that to the table. There is little reason to take them instead of the best available coach.

I expect Manuel to be true to his word and look at all the factors and pick the guy who seems best to him. That's his job. Kevin has enough to make him a candidate, namely:

1. JC's blessing. It is a big benefit to the institution to keep their high profile HOF coach happy. If he want Kevin, that's certainly a plus for KO.

2. Relationship with the existing players, limits transfers, smoothes the transition.

3. Relationship with recruits, better not to have kids asking to be released.

4. Familiarity with the existing system, again eases the transition.

5. NBA experience, meaningful for recruiting.

6. Experience at the university. They know the guy and know that they can work with him.

7. Compelling personal story/credibility with recruits.

That's pretty decent but hardly compelling. The big missing component is head coaching experience, particularly at a big time college level. Face it, if Kevin wasn't one of our own, we'd be outraged by his choice.

If JC were to retire today, Kevin would likely be considered but would lose the job to more experienced candidates. This season, however, provides a unique opportunity. Each day that passes makes it less likely that another suitable coach would take the job. If we aren't eligible for the post season, and I still haven't given up hope that they use current data in the end, Kevin would be have a great chance to cut his teeth as a head coach, with less pressure on him. If JC were to have a 'health issue' at the start of the season, Kevin would be well positioned to step in. Manuel could give him his shot without be held accountable if things go south. I have a hunch that that could well be where this is going.
 
AfgHusky15 said:
No your not the only one, but that doesn't mean your any less wrong about KO. We should feel lucky we have a guy like KO on our coaching staff. In the few years that he's been here he's been key in getting recruits to commit to uconn such as daniels. A lot of current recruits give KO shout outs all the time. For all the KO naysayers do you guys not read the articles about KO working out hard with current players like bazz and boat during the summer? There is a reason why JC is pushing for KO to be the next head coach. JC has invested too much time, effort and heart to push for any future coaching move that will not sustain uconn as an elitee bball program
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So what is his record as a head coach? How many games has he won? How do you know "we're lucky to have him?" Because he runs the summer workouts? that is the job that usuaally goes to the lowest guy on the totem pole...and you guys want to make him the head coach? based on pretty much nothing, near as I can tell.
 
CL82 said:
Zero chance it goes down that way.

KO bring continuity. He already has a relationship players and incoming recruits. That's a big part of what he's bringing to the table. The weight that Manuel places on these two items will go a long way to determining if Kevin gets the job. Other "family members", who aren't on staff now, don’t bring that to the table. There is little reason to take them instead of the best available coach.

I expect Manuel to be true to his word and look at all the factors and pick the guy who seems best to him. That's his job. Kevin has enough to make him a candidate, namely:

1. JC's blessing. It is a big benefit to the institution to keep their high profile HOF coach happy. If he want Kevin, that's certainly a plus for KO. And just thin, if Ollie stinks out the joint, or is badly overmatched, Calhoun doesn't have any responsibility. He's retired. Manuel will be on th ehotseat, of course.

2. Relationship with the existing players, limits transfers, smoothes the transition. Given that over 50% of players at D-1 schools leave within 2 years, this might be the single most over-rated factor. It is sort of a "who cares" issue in a sport where players come and go on a regular basis.

3. Relationship with recruits, better not to have kids asking to be released. The NCAA doesn't allow releases for coaching changes anyway, so I'm not sure what the benefit. My thought would be that players who were thinking of leaving under Calhoun would be jsut as likely to leave under a guy who was on Calhoun's staff.

4. Familiarity with the existing system, again eases the transition.

5. NBA experience, meaningful for recruiting.You could also bring in a new head coach and keep Ollie on staff as recruiting coordinator if this is such a big issue...Tom Moore was by many reports the best recruiter ever at UCONN. How much NBA experience did he have? Hobbs did a stint in that role when he was at UCONN the first time around. How much NBA experience did he have?

6. Experience at the university. They know the guy and know that they can work with him.

7. Compelling personal story/credibility with recruits.

That's pretty decent but hardly compelling. The big missing component is head coaching experience, particularly at a big time college level. Face it, if Kevin wasn't one of our own, we'd be outraged by his choice.

If JC were to retire today, Kevin would likely be considered but would lose the job to more experienced candidates. This season, however, provides a unique opportunity. Each day that passes makes it less likely that another suitable coach would take the job. If we aren't eligible for the post season, and I still haven't given up hope that they use current data in the end, Kevin would be have a great chance to cut his teeth as a head coach, with less pressure on him. If JC were to have a 'health issue' at the start of the season, Kevin would be well positioned to step in. Manuel could give him his shot without be held accountable if things go south. I have a hunch that that could well be where this is going.
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I think the highlighted comment summarizes my view on this quite well. This whole thing is becoming more about soothing Jim Calhoun's ego than it is about finding the next head basketball coach at UCONN. You hit it exactly right! If Kevin Ollie had been a St John's guy, people would be horrified that he is being seriously considered as Calhoun's replacement! My concern, and reading some of Calhoun's recent comments I worry that he'll wait until too late to bring in a real repalcement and force Manuel's hand. He's made several references to Dean Smith lately. One hopes he has more integrity than to pull somehting like that.
 
If JC and the university really wanted KO as the next head coach, then they should retire Blaney and give that job to Kevin. That way when JC gets his periodic illnesses, KO can show what he can do as a head coach. This sounds like a good idea that will never happen.
 
Clothy said:
Why not Huskymaniac as head coach. First you would have to pry him out of John Calipari's butthole.
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First of all, Clothy, you seem to have as much of an obsession over Huskymaniac as he may have over the squid.
Second, I'd bet you are over here much more than Huskymaniac is on UMass' board.
Third, if Derrick Kellogg were offered the UConn HC job he'd be gone from UMass in a minuteman minute!!
Finally, that ain't ever gonna' happen.
 
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Yonick said:
First of all, Clothy, you seem to have as much of an obsession over Huskymaniac as he may have over the squid.
Second, I'd bet you are over here much more than Huskymaniac is on UMass' board.
Third, if Derrick Kellogg were offered the UConn HC job he'd be gone from UMass in a minuteman minute!!
Finally, that ain't ever gonna' happen.
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Wrong on all counts. If I can't find something on the Umass board I just ask the genius, like I did a couple weeks ago. He actually linked me to the General Discussions forum which I don't even read. And there are several people who wouldn't take the Uconn job for a variety of reasons, including Kellogg

Well not wrong on all counts. I don't think they would offer Kellogg. At least no-one would cry about it like when we wouldn't consider Moore after Lappas got canned.
 
freescooter said:
I think the highlighted comment summarizes my view on this quite well. This whole thing is becoming more about soothing Jim Calhoun's ego than it is about finding the next head basketball coach at UCONN. You hit it exactly right! If Kevin Ollie had been a St John's guy, people would be horrified that he is being seriously considered as Calhoun's replacement! My concern, and reading some of Calhoun's recent comments I worry that he'll wait until too late to bring in a real repalcement and force Manuel's hand. He's made several references to Dean Smith lately. One hopes he has more integrity than to pull somehting like that.
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  1. Manuel will be in the hotseat regardless of the hire, if said person fails. Ollie is may actually be a bit defensible as it comes with Calhoun's blessing (which alumni will understand)
  2. I agree, this is not an issue in one sense, though with APR the goal should be to limit this as much as possible.
  3. I believe he is talking about a situation like with Harrell at VTech. Not with players that left last year. If a recruit is being recruited understanding they are coming to play for either Calhoun or (if Calhoun retires) Ollie and Ollie isn't chosen, then there is a higher chance the recruit leaves (Harrell). I'm not sure if this is true assuming UConn get's Smart/Stevens/etc. but I think that was the point.
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  5. I don't know how much Ollie playing in the NBA helps recruiting compared to Tom Moore, but Ollie is a very good recruiter and being friends with guys who played in the NBA helps a bit (coaching Kemba/Lamb/Drummond) probably helps also. I'm not sure Ollie will be willing to play second fiddle to someone like Smart/etc. Then again, Ollie has made a decent living playing basketball and may not be seeking glory/money, as opposed to doing it simply for the love of the game. I don't know.
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  7. I agree this isn't a good reason to hire Ollie
I agree, if Ollie were not a UConn guy, people would flip with his experience.
Let's say Calhoun coaches the next two years. At that point Ollie will have 4 years of being JC's assistant. There are aspects which I think Ollie would be great at (recruiting, talent evaluating, practice, individual instruction) and there are other aspects he might struggle with (time management, ref management, play calling). However, he might excel at those (a lot will depend on who his assistants are/would be).
 
Clothy said:
Wrong

Wrong on all counts. If I can't find something on the Umass board I just ask the genius, like I did a couple weeks ago. He actually linked me to the General Discussions forum which I don't even read. And there are several people who wouldn't take the Uconn job for a variety of reasons, including Kellogg

Well not wrong on all counts. I don't think they would offer Kellogg. At least no-one would cry about it like when we wouldn't consider Moore after Lappas got canned.
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Kellogg wouldn't take the UConn job?? And you know this how?? You may see the largest load ever at Amherst shot across campus if he was even asked......it would be Dereks!!
 
ddooky said:
I'd go Moore, Pikiell, KO, Smart, Stevens if forced to pick from those five.
Would be interesting to see how much money/years they would offer to lure a top-flight coach here.
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Thank god you are not making the decision.

Anyone who would take a guy who has never coached a game in his life or a guy who is 100-135 in the American East over a coach who has been to 2 title games or a coach who has been to the final four is a real mouth breather.

For every Jamie Dixon there is a 100 Bill Guthridges. Do a national search, hire the best and most qualified candidate.
 
HeGotGame said:
Thank god you are not making the decision.

Anyone who would take a guy who has never coached a game in his life or a guy who is 100-135 in the American East over a coach who has been to 2 title games or a coach who has been to the final four is a real mouth breather.

For every Jamie Dixon there is a 100 Bill Guthridges. Do a national search, hire the best and most qualified candidate.
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And this is not a bad idea either......
 
Clothy said:
Wrong

Wrong on all counts. If I can't find something on the Umass board I just ask the genius, like I did a couple weeks ago. He actually linked me to the General Discussions forum which I don't even read. And there are several people who wouldn't take the Uconn job for a variety of reasons, including Kellogg

Well not wrong on all counts. I don't think they would offer Kellogg. At least no-one would cry about it like when we wouldn't consider Moore after Lappas got canned.
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I doubt I'm wrong on any count. Hell, Huskymaniac says he's banned on your board. Each time you got banned on the Rivals board you came back with a new name. Sometimes within minutes. Talk about being UConn obsessed.
I don't remember Moore being a candidate for the Umass job. If so, most here would've been happy to keep him here as our recruiter.
FYI, Howie Dickenman, when he was an assistant here, was a top candidate @ UMass but lost out to Huskymaniac's buddie Calipari.
 
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Couple replys....
To CL82, I have no idea what percent chance my scenario has, but I do know one thing, neither do you. One of the reasons you give for naming KO is because he would be able to retain the current players and recruits? That is ridiculous. Do you realize there are only three (and possibly up to six) kids in the UConn program right now worthy of wearing that uniform compared to the days when Moore was recruiting there? Shabazz, Boatright, and Omar are the only current players that would have been able to help the teams of 2002-2009. Daniels, Giffey, and Olander would be 10th man-13th man type guys on those teams. And if you don't believe me, take out the rosters of the 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, and 09 teams. So why worry about retaining these guys? The talent level has fallen off a cliff in the last few years and looks to be continuing in 2013.

To HeGotGame, thanks for calling me a mouth breather. Way to stay classy. The reasons again that I like Moore/KO/Pikiell over Smart/Stevens are connections stay strong to JC, connections stay strong with every UConn alum in the NBA, Northeast recruiting ties, huge contributions to past UConn successes as either players or coaches, among others. Let's follow your plan and bring in a mid-major head coach who finished 4th in the Horizon League at 11-7 in the first year that he had all his own players. The first year he wasn't coaching an NBA Lottery pick or two other first team all-league guys he inherited. Let's bring him out here from the Midwest to the Big East. Maybe we'll be as lucky as Providence was when they brought Keno Davis from Drake! And if we're real lucky, he'll bring his whole staff out here like Keno did! Those phone calls to the AAU and prep school power brokers out here in the Northeast must have went great when they had to introduce themselves to those guys for the first time. Obviously, they did because of the great job Keno did at PC!
.....I just don't get the fascination over Stevens and Smart.
 
College basketball is all about recruiting and KO would absolutely destroy it on the recruiting trail. You think a 5 star kid is going to want to play for Pikiell or Ollie?

The fact that Ollie was a mentor/buddy of the biggest stars in the league like KD and Lebron can't hurt. Can you imagine Ollie having those guys come over and say hello? It would be like UK without the slime.
 
ddooky said:
Couple replys....
To CL82, I have no idea what percent chance my scenario has, but I do know one thing, neither do you. One of the reasons you give for naming KO is because he would be able to retain the current players and recruits? That is ridiculous. Do you realize there are only three (and possibly up to six) kids in the UConn program right now worthy of wearing that uniform compared to the days when Moore was recruiting there? Shabazz, Boatright, and Omar are the only current players that would have been able to help the teams of 2002-2009. Daniels, Giffey, and Olander would be 10th man-13th man type guys on those teams. And if you don't believe me, take out the rosters of the 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, and 09 teams. So why worry about retaining these guys? The talent level has fallen off a cliff in the last few years and looks to be continuing in 2013.

To HeGotGame, thanks for calling me a mouth breather. Way to stay classy. The reasons again that I like Moore/KO/Pikiell over Smart/Stevens are connections stay strong to JC, connections stay strong with every UConn alum in the NBA, Northeast recruiting ties, huge contributions to past UConn successes as either players or coaches, among others. Let's follow your plan and bring in a mid-major head coach who finished 4th in the Horizon League at 11-7 in the first year that he had all his own players. The first year he wasn't coaching an NBA Lottery pick or two other first team all-league guys he inherited. Let's bring him out here from the Midwest to the Big East. Maybe we'll be as lucky as Providence was when they brought Keno Davis from Drake! And if we're real lucky, he'll bring his whole staff out here like Keno did! Those phone calls to the AAU and prep school power brokers out here in the Northeast must have went great when they had to introduce themselves to those guys for the first time. Obviously, they did because of the great job Keno did at PC!
.....I just don't get the fascination over Stevens and Smart.
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I am sorry but you keep proving to be a mouth breather. Comparing Brad Stevens coming to Uconn to Keno to PC is moronic. First of all, Keno had a 1 year of HC experience and won a total of 0 NCAA games and he went to a muddling program in the bottom on of the conference. Stevens has been coaching for 5 years, has had nothing but success and would be taking over a powerhouse with brand new facilities, the two situations have 0 similarities beyond both coaches are from the large region known as the "midwest". If you really think Stevens success is because of Todd Lickliter then you are on another level of mouth breathing then I thought. Gordon Hayward came to Butler in 2008, Stevens started in 2007. Same with Shelvin Mack. Roland Nored as well. All Stevens recruits, all key contributors to their success. Stop embarrassing yourself by making up false statements.

Stevens has signed a top 100 player in 2012 and 2013 at BUTLER, how many have Moore and Pikell signed?

You do not get the fascination over them because you clearly have no clue about them or CBB
 
ddooky said:
Couple replys....
To CL82, I have no idea what percent chance my scenario has, but I do know one thing, neither do you. One of the reasons you give for naming KO is because he would be able to retain the current players and recruits? That is ridiculous. Do you realize there are only three (and possibly up to six) kids in the UConn program right now worthy of wearing that uniform compared to the days when Moore was recruiting there? Shabazz, Boatright, and Omar are the only current players that would have been able to help the teams of 2002-2009. Daniels, Giffey, and Olander would be 10th man-13th man type guys on those teams. And if you don't believe me, take out the rosters of the 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, and 09 teams. So why worry about retaining these guys? The talent level has fallen off a cliff in the last few years and looks to be continuing in 2013.
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From a pure talent perspective, the 2012 team rivals the "glory years" teams that you referenced above. The 2011 team won the National Championship. The 2010 team had three freshman who everyone and their mother thought would be great players, but ended up not panning out. The 2009 went to the Final Four.

Where is this cliff and when exactly were those "last few years" that you're referring to? Last year was disappointing, but it wasn't because of a lack of talent. You may not like the talent on the current roster, but what do you expect given what the program is facing for the coming year?
 
mauconnfan said:
Kellogg wouldn't take the UConn job?? And you know this how?? You may see the largest load ever at Amherst shot across campus if he was even asked......it would be Dereks!!
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DK is not going anywhere soon. A quote from his hiring press conference:

" I worked my whole coaching career to someday be standing here in front of you as the head coach of my alma mater. I remember the first day on campus, I believe it was 1991, walking and enjoying being around the other students and just seeing the vibrance of the place. I said to myself, if it doesn't work out in the NBA, I could see myself coming back and someday being the head coach here. This is my dream job."

Doesn't sound like who dreams of coaching at Uconn. He shot his load when Umass hired him in '08.
 
Clothy said:
DK is not going anywhere soon. A quote from his hiring press conference:

" I worked my whole coaching career to someday be standing here in front of you as the head coach of my alma mater. I remember the first day on campus, I believe it was 1991, walking and enjoying being around the other students and just seeing the vibrance of the place. I said to myself, if it doesn't work out in the NBA, I could see myself coming back and someday being the head coach here. This is my dream job."

Doesn't sound like who dreams of coaching at Uconn. He shot his load when Umass hired him in '08.
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You've got to be kidding me. Do you have any idea how many coaches have said crap like this at their introductory press conferences? What do you expect them to say? "Yeah, uh, this job is nice for now. But if a bigger fish comes calling, I'd have to take it."

Brad Stevens says stuff like this every year, but if Indiana came calling he'd be singing a different tune. Danny Hurley was adamant that Wagner was not a short-term stay for him...then he left after 2 years. There are plenty of other examples.
 
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Yonick said:
I doubt I'm wrong on any count. Hell, Huskymaniac says he's banned on your board. Each time you got banned on the Rivals board you came back with a new name. Sometimes within minutes. Talk about being UConn obsessed.
I don't remember Moore being a candidate for the Umass job. If so, most here would've been happy to keep him here as our recruiter.
FYI, Howie Dickenman, when he was an assistant here, was a top candidate @ UMass but lost out to Huskymaniac's buddie Calipari.
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Yes, banned but reads it daily. How else would he be able to find that Uconn comment burried in the general discussion forum. He has actually registered on our board under several names and has actually had conversations with himself because no-one else listens or agrees with him.

And Moore was never a candidate because we never considered him and that pissed off Calhoun, believe it or not. Don't know about Howie's candidacy but it looks like the better man won.

As far as your current situation, it reminds me of when "the Squid" left here. Program in turmoil, Calhoun wants to keep it in the family and recommends his top recruiter who everyone liked but the fan base and administration grew impatient. Bruiser eventually failed as we all remember. But went on to become a decent coach at Drexel. What ever happened to Travis Ford as Calhoun's successor from a few years back. And I don't think Smart or Stevens will be willing to leave their programs when Calhoun decides to retire. They'll just be getting the feet wet in the A10 by that time. But I wish you luck finding someone who is willing to put themselves under the NCAA's microscope.
 
Why are we talking about Derek Kellogg? Seriously. If UConn hired DK I would literally puke in my mouth. You can't hire a guy that was afraid to shoot in college at a pressure cooker school like UConn. He isn't wired right to follow a legend. Very few people are.
 
Clothy said:
As far as your current situation, it reminds me of when "the Squid" left here.
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yea its just like that if you take away the 3 national championships, nationally recognizable name brand program, top of line practice facility, countless NBA alums, and ranking as one of 4 honoroable mentions in ESPN's list of Top Coaching Jobs in the nation. This is practically deja vu.
 
I am completely in favor of making KO the Coach in Waiting.

This provides some stability right now, provides some visibility for recruits, and there is a very limited downside. If things change when HOFHCJC retires, you can always go out and look around for a Smart ot Butler guy etc.

Its the obvious move and one that should be done soon but probably wont be.
 
ddooky said:
Couple replys....
To CL82, I have no idea what percent chance my scenario has, but I do know one thing, neither do you. One of the reasons you give for naming KO is because he would be able to retain the current players and recruits? That is ridiculous. Do you realize there are only three (and possibly up to six) kids in the UConn program right now worthy of wearing that uniform compared to the days when Moore was recruiting there? Shabazz, Boatright, and Omar are the only current players that would have been able to help the teams of 2002-2009. Daniels, Giffey, and Olander would be 10th man-13th man type guys on those teams. And if you don't believe me, take out the rosters of the 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, and 09 teams. So why worry about retaining these guys? The talent level has fallen off a cliff in the last few years and looks to be continuing in 2013.
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Would you prefer if I just said that your coaching "scenario" makes no sense? Ok will do.

In that spirit.... your assertion that "the talent level has fallen off a cliff in the last few years", makes no sense as the roster as during these years have at least five certain (Kemba) or likely (Lamb, Drumond, Shabazz, Boatright) NBA players on it.
 
Hoophound said:
Why are we talking about Derek Kellogg? Seriously. If UConn hired DK I would literally puke in my mouth. You can't hire a guy that was afraid to shoot in college at a pressure cooker school like UConn. He isn't wired right to follow a legend. Very few people are.
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Thank you. I'm reading this and thinking, why are we even talking about him?
 
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ddooky said:
Couple replys....
To CL82, I have no idea what percent chance my scenario has, but I do know one thing, neither do you. One of the reasons you give for naming KO is because he would be able to retain the current players and recruits? That is ridiculous. Do you realize there are only three (and possibly up to six) kids in the UConn program right now worthy of wearing that uniform compared to the days when Moore was recruiting there? Shabazz, Boatright, and Omar are the only current players that would have been able to help the teams of 2002-2009. Daniels, Giffey, and Olander would be 10th man-13th man type guys on those teams. And if you don't believe me, take out the rosters of the 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, and 09 teams. So why worry about retaining these guys? The talent level has fallen off a cliff in the last few years and looks to be continuing in 2013.
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I'm not sure that bringing up Daniels is a good idea when your intention is to show a drop-off in recruiting. Sure, he struggled the first year but he is probably in the top 7 or so most highly regarded players to come to UCONN. Marshall, CV, Gay, AD - who am I missing?
 
WOW the KO frenzy is back. No experience, nice guy,vg recruiter. I would like to see a dramatic improvement in the backcourt this year. experience is very important for a program like Uconn, but having the players follow your lead is more important. The new coach will hire assistants who one main guy to pit it all together. Ollie can be teh HC with the right assistants and players who will listen and follow. I didn't see that with the backcourt. Perhaps we will see more this year. Ollie doesn't strike me as a control/yeller and screamer like JC, so he will have to lead from in front whereas JC pushed from behind.
 
Clothy said:
Yes, banned but reads it daily. How else would he be able to find that Uconn comment burried in the general discussion forum. He has actually registered on our board under several names and has actually had conversations with himself because no-one else listens or agrees with him.

And Moore was never a candidate because we never considered him and that pissed off Calhoun, believe it or not. Don't know about Howie's candidacy but it looks like the better man won.

As far as your current situation, it reminds me of when "the Squid" left here. Program in turmoil, Calhoun wants to keep it in the family and recommends his top recruiter who everyone liked but the fan base and administration grew impatient. Bruiser eventually failed as we all remember. But went on to become a decent coach at Drexel. What ever happened to Travis Ford as Calhoun's successor from a few years back. And I don't think Smart or Stevens will be willing to leave their programs when Calhoun decides to retire. They'll just be getting the feet wet in the A10 by that time. But I wish you luck finding someone who is willing to put themselves under the NCAA's microscope.
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Clothy, the Kellogg matter is a joke. UConn wouldn't want him at this time. After all, whaty has he done?
But, if UConn came calling the difference between what UConn has, and will continue to do cannot ever be matched at a school like UMass. Hell, you guys don't even have your Boston based state legislature behind you.
As far as your obsession here vs Huskymaniac's there. All I'll say is you are the biggest troll on any UConn board...and that's ever....
 
I've enjoyed reading this board for years and only recently decided to post on here. This will be my 9th and final post. I'll gladly go back to just reading. Not fun getting attacked for throwing ideas out there for discussion. I don't have the time, energy, or the inclination to have to defend every point I make.

To Husky Bball Fan and CL82.....sorry for using the terms "talent level has fallen off a cliff" and "the last few years." Didn't realize you would micro-analyze my choices of words and ignore my larger point. Just trying to say making a decision on the next head coach based on "retaining what we have now" is ludicrous because we have next to nothing now. If you're a UConn fan and you're happy going forward with Shabazz, Ryan, and Omar combined with the shape we're in with any of the top 2013 recruits nationally, evidently the talent level hasn't fallen off a cliff. I stand corrected.

To HeGotGame....I was incorrect to imply Heyward and Mack were brought in by Lickliter. They were signed by Stevens. Matt Howard was signed by Lickliter, but you chose to ignore that in your attack on me. Don't throw Nored into the talk. He means nothing to my point. You threw that in there. My point -AGAIN - is Stevens had the three best players in the history of the school (and probably Top 15 in history of the Horizon League) all on his team at ONE TIME for two years, and two of them on his team for a 3rd year. He had an NBA lottery pick and two borderline NBA players on one team in the freakin' HORIZON LEAGUE. He did a what he was supposed to do...dominate the league. Now that they are all gone, he went 11-7, 4th place, and a CBI bid (with Quinnipiac btw).
And my 2nd point, which you also chose to ignore, was EXACTLY LIKE KENO DAVIS, I'm sure Stevens would be a great recruiter up and down the Northeast. I'd love to have you and I in on a four-way phone call to listen the first time he or one of his Midwest assistants calls Jimmy Salmon, Curtis Malone, or Keith Stevens and says they want in on one of their kids for UConn. When you're done googling those names, come back at me, the guy who knows nothing about college basketball.
 
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