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Am I the only one who thinks KO should not be the next head coach??

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As far as your current situation, it reminds me of when "the Squid" left here.

yea its just like that if you take away the 3 national championships, nationally recognizable name brand program, top of line practice facility, countless NBA alums, and ranking as one of 4 honoroable mentions in ESPN's list of Top Coaching Jobs in the nation. This is practically deja vu.
 
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I am completely in favor of making KO the Coach in Waiting.

This provides some stability right now, provides some visibility for recruits, and there is a very limited downside. If things change when HOFHCJC retires, you can always go out and look around for a Smart ot Butler guy etc.

Its the obvious move and one that should be done soon but probably wont be.
 

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To CL82, I have no idea what percent chance my scenario has, but I do know one thing, neither do you. One of the reasons you give for naming KO is because he would be able to retain the current players and recruits? That is ridiculous. Do you realize there are only three (and possibly up to six) kids in the UConn program right now worthy of wearing that uniform compared to the days when Moore was recruiting there? Shabazz, Boatright, and Omar are the only current players that would have been able to help the teams of 2002-2009. Daniels, Giffey, and Olander would be 10th man-13th man type guys on those teams. And if you don't believe me, take out the rosters of the 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, and 09 teams. So why worry about retaining these guys? The talent level has fallen off a cliff in the last few years and looks to be continuing in 2013.

Would you prefer if I just said that your coaching "scenario" makes no sense? Ok will do.

In that spirit.... your assertion that "the talent level has fallen off a cliff in the last few years", makes no sense as the roster as during these years have at least five certain (Kemba) or likely (Lamb, Drumond, Shabazz, Boatright) NBA players on it.
 

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Why are we talking about Derek Kellogg? Seriously. If UConn hired DK I would literally puke in my mouth. You can't hire a guy that was afraid to shoot in college at a pressure cooker school like UConn. He isn't wired right to follow a legend. Very few people are.
Thank you. I'm reading this and thinking, why are we even talking about him?
 
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To CL82, I have no idea what percent chance my scenario has, but I do know one thing, neither do you. One of the reasons you give for naming KO is because he would be able to retain the current players and recruits? That is ridiculous. Do you realize there are only three (and possibly up to six) kids in the UConn program right now worthy of wearing that uniform compared to the days when Moore was recruiting there? Shabazz, Boatright, and Omar are the only current players that would have been able to help the teams of 2002-2009. Daniels, Giffey, and Olander would be 10th man-13th man type guys on those teams. And if you don't believe me, take out the rosters of the 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, and 09 teams. So why worry about retaining these guys? The talent level has fallen off a cliff in the last few years and looks to be continuing in 2013.

I'm not sure that bringing up Daniels is a good idea when your intention is to show a drop-off in recruiting. Sure, he struggled the first year but he is probably in the top 7 or so most highly regarded players to come to UCONN. Marshall, CV, Gay, AD - who am I missing?
 
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WOW the KO frenzy is back. No experience, nice guy,vg recruiter. I would like to see a dramatic improvement in the backcourt this year. experience is very important for a program like Uconn, but having the players follow your lead is more important. The new coach will hire assistants who one main guy to pit it all together. Ollie can be teh HC with the right assistants and players who will listen and follow. I didn't see that with the backcourt. Perhaps we will see more this year. Ollie doesn't strike me as a control/yeller and screamer like JC, so he will have to lead from in front whereas JC pushed from behind.
 
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Yes, banned but reads it daily. How else would he be able to find that Uconn comment burried in the general discussion forum. He has actually registered on our board under several names and has actually had conversations with himself because no-one else listens or agrees with him.

And Moore was never a candidate because we never considered him and that pissed off Calhoun, believe it or not. Don't know about Howie's candidacy but it looks like the better man won.

As far as your current situation, it reminds me of when "the Squid" left here. Program in turmoil, Calhoun wants to keep it in the family and recommends his top recruiter who everyone liked but the fan base and administration grew impatient. Bruiser eventually failed as we all remember. But went on to become a decent coach at Drexel. What ever happened to Travis Ford as Calhoun's successor from a few years back. And I don't think Smart or Stevens will be willing to leave their programs when Calhoun decides to retire. They'll just be getting the feet wet in the A10 by that time. But I wish you luck finding someone who is willing to put themselves under the NCAA's microscope.
Clothy, the Kellogg matter is a joke. UConn wouldn't want him at this time. After all, whaty has he done?
But, if UConn came calling the difference between what UConn has, and will continue to do cannot ever be matched at a school like UMass. Hell, you guys don't even have your Boston based state legislature behind you.
As far as your obsession here vs Huskymaniac's there. All I'll say is you are the biggest troll on any UConn board...and that's ever....
 
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Someday, if Cooley can manage to do something successful he might attract UConn's attention.
He has yet to do so.
 
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I've enjoyed reading this board for years and only recently decided to post on here. This will be my 9th and final post. I'll gladly go back to just reading. Not fun getting attacked for throwing ideas out there for discussion. I don't have the time, energy, or the inclination to have to defend every point I make.

To Husky Bball Fan and CL82.....sorry for using the terms "talent level has fallen off a cliff" and "the last few years." Didn't realize you would micro-analyze my choices of words and ignore my larger point. Just trying to say making a decision on the next head coach based on "retaining what we have now" is ludicrous because we have next to nothing now. If you're a UConn fan and you're happy going forward with Shabazz, Ryan, and Omar combined with the shape we're in with any of the top 2013 recruits nationally, evidently the talent level hasn't fallen off a cliff. I stand corrected.

To HeGotGame....I was incorrect to imply Heyward and Mack were brought in by Lickliter. They were signed by Stevens. Matt Howard was signed by Lickliter, but you chose to ignore that in your attack on me. Don't throw Nored into the talk. He means nothing to my point. You threw that in there. My point -AGAIN - is Stevens had the three best players in the history of the school (and probably Top 15 in history of the Horizon League) all on his team at ONE TIME for two years, and two of them on his team for a 3rd year. He had an NBA lottery pick and two borderline NBA players on one team in the freakin' HORIZON LEAGUE. He did a what he was supposed to do...dominate the league. Now that they are all gone, he went 11-7, 4th place, and a CBI bid (with Quinnipiac btw).
And my 2nd point, which you also chose to ignore, was EXACTLY LIKE KENO DAVIS, I'm sure Stevens would be a great recruiter up and down the Northeast. I'd love to have you and I in on a four-way phone call to listen the first time he or one of his Midwest assistants calls Jimmy Salmon, Curtis Malone, or Keith Stevens and says they want in on one of their kids for UConn. When you're done googling those names, come back at me, the guy who knows nothing about college basketball.
 
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I've enjoyed reading this board for years and only recently decided to post on here. This will be my 9th and final post. I'll gladly go back to just reading. Not fun getting attacked for throwing ideas out there for discussion. I don't have the time, energy, or the inclination to have to defend every point I make.

To Husky Bball Fan and CL82.....sorry for using the terms "talent level has fallen off a cliff" and "the last few years." Didn't realize you would micro-analyze my choices of words and ignore my larger point. Just trying to say making a decision on the next head coach based on "retaining what we have now" is ludicrous because we have next to nothing now. If you're a UConn fan and you're happy going forward with Shabazz, Ryan, and Omar combined with the shape we're in with any of the top 2013 recruits nationally, evidently the talent level hasn't fallen off a cliff. I stand corrected.

To HeGotGame....I was incorrect to imply Heyward and Mack were brought in by Lickliter. They were signed by Stevens. Matt Howard was signed by Lickliter, but you chose to ignore that in your attack on me. Don't throw Nored into the talk. He means nothing to my point. You threw that in there. My point -AGAIN - is Stevens had the three best players in the history of the school (and probably Top 15 in history of the Horizon League) all on his team at ONE TIME for two years, and two of them on his team for a 3rd year. He had an NBA lottery pick and two borderline NBA players on one team in the freakin' HORIZON LEAGUE. He did a what he was supposed to do...dominate the league. Now that they are all gone, he went 11-7, 4th place, and a CBI bid (with Quinnipiac btw).
And my 2nd point, which you also chose to ignore, was EXACTLY LIKE KENO DAVIS, I'm sure Stevens would be a great recruiter up and down the Northeast. I'd love to have you and I in on a four-way phone call to listen the first time he or one of his Midwest assistants calls Jimmy Salmon, Curtis Malone, or Keith Stevens and says they want in on one of their kids for UConn. When you're done googling those names, come back at me, the guy who knows nothing about college basketball.

Man I just keep wanting to hit my head into a wall when I read your poss. You keep pointing out his dominance of the Horizon league, he went to 2 NCAA FINALS, why do you keep ignoring this? I am not going to keep arguing with you because it is pointless, some people just do not get it. You thought Lickliter recruited and signed and built the Butler teams, that tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of CBB.

When Tom Moore recruits 1 NBA player or makes 1 NCAA tournament or when Pikell gets his overall record in the American East above .500 then come talk to me, until then keep mouth breathing and harping on winning the Horizon while ignoring the back to back finals appearances.

As I said initially thank god your not making the hiring decision for UConn.
 
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