Alexis Jones Transferring

[sivad40]

Which transfer has a greater impact? UNC losing Diamond or Duke losing Alexis?

 

[Wbbfan1]

Diamond is the bigger loss. Many would have been touting Diamond for POY Awards. Diamond is a great player, Alexis is a very good player. Also reading between the lines I don't think Alexis was going to play next year because of her injury.

Which transfer has a greater impact? UNC losing Diamond or Duke losing Alexis?

 

[bballnut90]

Which transfer has a greater impact? UNC losing Diamond or Duke losing Alexis?

Diamond is a much more significant transfer. DeShields would have been a preseason 1st Team-All American and UNC would be a Final Four favorite with her. Without her, they are in the 8-15 range. Jones was expected to take a while to recover, and even with her Duke is only projected to be an 8-15 team. Without her, they'll more than likely fall out of the top 15. DeShields departure makes UNC go from being potentially great to very good, and Jones means Duke will go from good to good/above average.

 

[Zorro]

Nobody in his right mind would have touted DD for POY as long as Stewie and KML are able to lace up their sneaks.

 

[msf22b]

Mike Flynn has tweeted that Duke Admin does not want to investigate complaints about player treatment.

What complaints?

 

[Fightin Choke]

What complaints?

When Sierra Moore left Duke, McCallie blocked her transfer to Louisville (which was her first choice), which greatly upset Moore's previous AAU coach, Mike Flynn, who is a big name in high school women's basketball (BlueStar, Philly Belles AAU). McCallie suspected that former Duke assistant coach Samantha Williams (now an assistant at Louisville) tampered by recruiting Moore (as she had also been Duke's contact during Moore's recruitment), so she blocked Moore's transfer to Louisville. And even if she was incorrect about the tampering charge (a suspicion McCallie made clear on her famous twitter account), Louisville had already accepted an invitation to the ACC and so again, she wouldn't have allowed the transfer based on those grounds anyway.

There have also been a lot of Duke transfers recently (by guards primarily) so it seems unlikely that these women are transferring to get more playing time. (Perhaps they are transferring to avoid playing too many minutes! ) Thus Mike Flynn, who clearly doesn't like McCallie, is implying there were more complaints (in addition to his very public complaints).

 

[pap49cba]

Cam or Triad would know for sure but someone tweeted that this is the 5th Duke starter to transfer over the past few years. (Emphasis on 'starter'.)

 

[VAUConnFan]

Nobody in his right mind would have touted DD for POY as long as Stewie and KML are able to lace up their sneaks.

Stranger things have happened. Back in 1986, Kamie Etheridge won the Wade Trophy; No way she was a better ballplayer than Cheryl Miller. If Ms Etheridege as much as dreamed of being as good as Cheryl Miller, she would have to apologize to her.

 

[Fightin Choke]

Cam or Triad would know for sure but someone tweeted that this is the 5th Duke starter to transfer over the past few years. (Emphasis on 'starter'.)

That number seems VERY high to me. And that tweet was by Winston Kelly, who is associated with the Philly Belles and BlueStar, so he could be just providing fodder for Mike Flynn, even if the factoid is untrue. But he actually didn't say the women all transferred but rather said they left the program: "WCBB: Duke's 3rd leading scorer Alexis Jones to Transfer, becomes 5th starter to Leave Program." LINK


Kianna Holland (class of 2013) transferred, but she never played a minute for the Blue Devils, so she doesn't count as one of the five.

I know that Sierra Moore (class of 2012) never started. In fact, to get playing time, she agreed to play the 4 her freshman year (she's 5'11" and never played the 4 at any level before she attended Duke). Katie Heckman (class of 2012) left the program due to a medical hardship. She is still enrolled at Duke and never played a minute there, so she is not one of the five. Alexis Jones, the third and final member of the 2012 class was a starter, and so she counts.

All of the class of 2011 are still on the team.

Chloe Wells (class of 2010) left the team late last season (her senior year), seeing action in 19 games but never starting. She started eight games her junior season, ten as a sophomore, and five as a freshman, so she is one of the five to leave the program, but she did not transfer. She makes two.

Alexis Rogers (class of 2009) transferred to Bowling Green after her freshman year, but she never started any of the 25 games in which she played. Fellow classmate Janee Johnson missed her freshman year due to a torn ACL, and then transferred after her freshman season as well. She never played for Duke.

Shay Selby (class of 2008) was suspended her senior year, but was later reinstated, so she didn't leave the program. Her last game that season was against Stanford in the Elite Eight when Duke was eliminated. Fellow classmate Chelsea Hopkins transferred to San Diego State after her sophomore year, but she never started for Duke averaging only 8 minutes per game her first two seasons there. Kathleen Scheer completed her eligibility at Duke, playing her last game in the Elite Eight like Shay.

The class of 2007 had only 2 members and both played all four years for Duke (Jasmine Thomas and Krystal Thomas). That pretty much finishes off the McCallie years, as she was hired in 2007. I only looked at Duke's players by recruits, so it's possible there were women who transferred in and them left the program.

Now if you read the tweet, Winston never provides a time frame for his comment, but there have been only 2 starters that have left the program since the class of 2008, and both occurred this year. Jones transferred and Wells left the team late in the season.

 

[CamrnCrz1974]

That number seems VERY high to me. And that tweet was by Winston Kelly, who is associated with the Philly Belles and BlueStar, so he could be just providing fodder for Mike Flynn, even if the factoid is untrue. But he actually didn't say the women all transferred but rather said they left the program: "WCBB: Duke's 3rd leading scorer Alexis Jones to Transfer, becomes 5th starter to Leave Program." LINK


Kianna Holland (class of 2013) transferred, but she never played a minute for the Blue Devils, so she doesn't count as one of the five.

I know that Sierra Moore (class of 2012) never started. In fact, to get playing time, she agreed to play the 4 her freshman year (she's 5'11" and never played the 4 at any level before she attended Duke). Katie Heckman (class of 2012) left the program due to a medical hardship. She is still enrolled at Duke and never played a minute there, so she is not one of the five. Alexis Jones, the third and final member of the 2012 class was a starter, and so she counts.

All of the class of 2011 are still on the team.

Chloe Wells (class of 2010) left the team late last season (her senior year), seeing action in 19 games but never starting. She started eight games her junior season, ten as a sophomore, and five as a freshman, so she is one of the five to leave the program, but she did not transfer. She makes two.

Alexis Rogers (class of 2009) transferred to Bowling Green after her freshman year, but she never started any of the 25 games in which she played. Fellow classmate Janee Johnson missed her freshman year due to a torn ACL, and then transferred after her freshman season as well. She never played for Duke.

Shay Selby (class of 2008) was suspended her senior year, but was later reinstated, so she didn't leave the program. Her last game that season was against Stanford in the Elite Eight when Duke was eliminated. Fellow classmate Chelsea Hopkins transferred to San Diego State after her sophomore year, but she never started for Duke averaging only 8 minutes per game her first two seasons there. Kathleen Scheer completed her eligibility at Duke, playing her last game in the Elite Eight like Shay.

The class of 2007 had only 2 members and both played all four years for Duke (Jasmine Thomas and Krystal Thomas). That pretty much finishes off the McCallie years, as she was hired in 2007. I only looked at Duke's players by recruits, so it's possible there were women who transferred in and them left the program.

Now if you read the tweet, Winston never provides a time frame for his comment, but there have been only 2 starters that have left the program since the class of 2008, and both occurred this year. Jones transferred and Wells left the team late in the season.

Emily Waner quit the team midseason (2007-2008) because of McCallie. She started a few games.

Brittany Mitch transferred after one year (2007-2008) because of McCallie. She might have started one or two games.

The exact language is:
"WCBB: Duke's 3rd leading scorer Alexis Jones to Transfer, becomes 5th starter to Leave Program."

Gray, Liston, Peters, and Jackson all graduated. All were starters last year (Jackson moreso after the Jones injury, but she had been a starter in prior years). Unless the author meant it in that context, in which he would *technically* be correct, there have not been five starters to leave the program in recent memory.

 

[UCONNfan1]

Unless the author meant it in that context, in which he would *technically* be correct, there have not been five starters to leave the program in recent memory.

Probably feels like that, though... I really feel for Duke fans. Sorry you all are dealing with this situation...

 

[RadyLady]

its not a point of feeling bad... you just want to balance the playing field sometimes. some people get sick of "UConn... and everybody else".

who? the people who own fixing this is "everyone else" They want things to change, they need to change things themselves.

Sick indeed...poor them...NOT

 

[HoopsFan21]

UConn's had four players transfer out in the past few years (Walker, Engeln, Johnson, and Banks). Transfers are part of the game these days, even at UConn where it seems an average of one player per year transfers. I guess some just don't want to commit, and as soon as an injury, or something else, comes up that derails things a bit from the picture perfect collegiate career they envisioned in their senior year of high school they gravitate towards transferring under the guise of needing "a fresh start."

 

[BlueDevils]

Can we lock this thread jk? Too much pain

 

[easttexastrash]

UConn's had four players transfer out in the past few years (Walker, Engeln, Johnson, and Banks). Transfers are part of the game these days, even at UConn where it seems an average of one player per year transfers. I guess some just don't want to commit, and as soon as an injury, or something else, comes up that derails things a bit from the picture perfect collegiate career they envisioned in their senior year of high school they gravitate towards transferring under the guise of needing "a fresh start."

I don't see anything wrong when wanting to transfer to be closer to family when recovering from an injury. It is a lot of pain and hard work and having family to support you is very comforting.

 

[msf22b]

The transfers of Engeln, Johnson and Banks were for similar if not exactly the same reason.

In those three cases the anticipation of playing time appeared limited and strong incoming prospects playing their positions had enrolled.

None of the three had completely established themselves as factors within Geno's system; the nearest being Banks.
The lights that went on for Banks and Chong during the injury emergency were as quickly extinguished when KML
reappeared; one of the inexplicable aspects of this past season.

There is no close parallel to Alexis leaving (EDD? not really). Healthy, she might well have been the focal point of the Duke attack.

The given reason strikes me as lame, but don't most of them fall flat?

 

[DaddyChoc]

The transfers of Engeln, Johnson and Banks were for similar if not exactly the same reason.

In those three cases the anticipation of playing time appeared limited and strong incoming prospects playing their positions had enrolled.

None of the three had completely established themselves as factors within Geno's system; the nearest being Banks.
The lights that went on for Banks and Chong during the injury emergency were as quickly extinguished when KML
reappeared; one of the inexplicable aspects of this past season.

There is no close parallel to Alexis leaving (EDD? not really). Healthy, she might well have been the focal point of the Duke attack.

The given reason strikes me as lame, but don't most of them fall flat?

good point... Jones transfer has a bigger impact than any of the mentioned UConn's

 

[WBFan2004]

Duke is on Asia Durrs list. Do you think the transfer of Jones will have any impact on Durrs decision putting Duke higher on her list?

 

[RadyLady]

Duke is on Asia Durrs list. Do you think the transfer of Jones will have any impact on Durrs decision putting Duke higher on her list?

hmmm...would she not wonder why the transfer of such an impact player on Duke's roster? I don't know, just sayin'

 

[j66kicker]

Duke is on Asia Durrs list. Do you think the transfer of Jones will have any impact on Durrs decision putting Duke higher on her list?

If it were me, all the transfer activity would put Coach P LOWER on my list

 

[pap49cba]

Between the players and assistant coaches that have left the program quite suddenly, I would have some serious questions if I was being recruited. You know the old saying: Where there's smoke....

 

[RadyLady]

Between the players and assistant coaches that have left the program quite suddenly, I would have some serious questions if I was being recruited. You know the old saying: Where there's smoke....

there's RIBS!!!!!! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[easttexastrash]

hmmm...would she not wonder why the transfer of such an impact player on Duke's roster? I don't know, just sayin'

She may just take it for face value that Jones is being honest when she says that she wants to be closer to family. However, if Jones goes to a team that is not much closer then it may be a red flag.

 

[RadyLady]

She may just take it for face value that Jones is being honest when she says that she wants to be closer to family. However, if Jones goes to a team that is not much closer then it may be a red glad.

prefer white.....or pink glads....truth be told, not a fan of this flower, actually.....

 

[easttexastrash]

prefer white.....or pink glads....truth be told, not a fan of this flower, actually.....

I love glads. I like how they look in flower arrangements.