Akok 101

[smoothcriminal]

Seems like all other Akok threads are locked so starting new one to discuss a few points:

- now that the first semester is over, will Akok join the team for practice and/or sit on team bench for Drexel and nova? Or does he need to wait until second semester starts?

- any further developments with respect to potentially red shirting or being eligible to play, and if he is paying his own way or if he is getting a scholarship?

- is there a limit to the total number of eligible players you can have including non scholarship walk on’s? Or can you have unlimited walk on’s

- has Hurley been able to make any public statements about him joining the team yet? Have any reporters tried to ask?

 

[JMick]

I don't think he can enroll until the winter session starts on 12/26 but that's just a guess

 

[UCDaveD]

I don't think he can enroll until the winter session starts on 12/26 but that's just a guess

That was my understanding as well.

 

[WrenchFan69]

I don't think he can enroll until the winter session starts on 12/26 but that's just a guess

Idk the dynamics of joining an athletic team or moving onto campus prior to an intersession, but technically he could enroll now. Students are already enrolled in those classes, even if they haven't started yet. Similar to moving onto campus before the academic year, those freshmen haven't started those classes but are on campus and are involved in sports already.

 

[Minicoop69]

Don't we also have to be certain his SAT score is high enough?

 

[pj]

Don't we also have to be certain his SAT score is high enough?

The SAT score will determine with he is a full, partial, or non-qualifier. We can safely assume, since he is still taking the SAT, that he is not yet a full qualifier. Some background here: OT- Qualifiers, Partial Qualifiers and Non Qualifiers- What do they mean?.

Partial qualifiers can receive scholarships and practice, but have to sit out from game competition for a full year. I think the reason Akok is enrolling in the winter is that he expects to be a partial qualifier and will need to sit for a full year. It's in his, and UConn's interest, that he enroll now so that he can start playing games in December 2019. If he enrolled in the summer, he couldn't play in a game until November 2020.

Conceivably, he could be a non-qualifier. If so, he won't be able to practice with the team for one year, or receive a scholarship. In that case, qualifying for in-state tuition and financial aid is crucial for him.

If he's a partial qualifier, then as a recruited athlete he consumes a scholarship, which means someone will have to leave the team at the break.

 

[smoothcriminal]

The SAT score will determine with he is a full, partial, or non-qualifier. We can safely assume, since he is still taking the SAT, that he is not yet a full qualifier. Some background here: OT- Qualifiers, Partial Qualifiers and Non Qualifiers- What do they mean?.

Partial qualifiers can receive scholarships and practice, but have to sit out from game competition for a full year. I think the reason Akok is enrolling in the winter is that he expects to be a partial qualifier and will need to sit for a full year. It's in his, and UConn's interest, that he enroll now so that he can start playing games in December 2019. If he enrolled in the summer, he couldn't play until fall 2020.

Conceivably, he could be a non-qualifier. If so, he won't be able to practice with the team for one year, or receive a scholarship. In that case, qualifying for in-state tuition and financial aid is crucial for him.

If he's a partial qualifier, then as a recruited athlete he consumes a scholarship, which means someone will have to leave the team at the break.

Helpful, thanks. Basically, he’s a recruited athlete, so the idea of him being a walk on, non scholarship player for a half year is not in the realm of possibilities. If he is a full or partial qualifier, he will be practicing with us ASAP and someone will need to go to free up that scholly... Feel like the media should have had this sorted already...

 

[Ajs120102]

 

[UconnU]

I don’t like this. Doesn’t smell right.

 

[Stainmaster]

I don’t like this. Doesn’t smell right.

Mid-year enrollments are exceedingly uncommon. What even is “[smelling] right” in such a situation?

 

[Mano]

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[smoothcriminal]

Why won’t any of reporters ask or write about the scholarship situation? The kid was recruited - he needs to consume a scholarship - so how did the school promise him there would be one available for the second semester? I think we all know the answer, but rather than speculating and name dropping on here, our reporters should ask the questions we can’t , utilize their sources, and uncover the facts

 

[uchusky32]

I don’t like this. Doesn’t smell right.

Pull my finger and you'll get something that doesn't smell right!

 

[BFieldHusky]

Why won’t any of reporters ask or write about the scholarship situation? The kid was recruited - he needs to consume a scholarship - so how did the school promise him there would be one available for the second semester? I think we all know the answer, but rather than speculating and name dropping on here, our reporters should ask the questions we can’t , utilize their sources, and uncover the facts

Not true at all.

 

[yukonfan4]

Not true at all.

are you saying the following quotes are inconsistent? if so, how exactly?

Partial qualifiers can receive scholarships and practice, but have to sit out from game competition for a full year. I think the reason Akok is enrolling in the winter is that he expects to be a partial qualifier and will need to sit for a full year. It's in his, and UConn's interest, that he enroll now so that he can start playing games in December 2019. If he enrolled in the summer, he couldn't play in a game until November 2020.

Conceivably, he could be a non-qualifier. If so, he won't be able to practice with the team for one year, or receive a scholarship. In that case, qualifying for in-state tuition and financial aid is crucial for him.

If he's a partial qualifier, then as a recruited athlete he consumes a scholarship, which means someone will have to leave the team at the break.

do you not think akok will be a partial qualifier that takes a scholly? otherwise wouldn't the quote below apply to the situation?

Why won’t any of reporters ask or write about the scholarship situation? The kid was recruited - he needs to consume a scholarship - so how did the school promise him there would be one available for the second semester? I think we all know the answer, but rather than speculating and name dropping on here, our reporters should ask the questions we can’t , utilize their sources, and uncover the facts

 

[aburks41]

He needs an 820/1600 on the SAT. You automatically get 400 points just for showing up to the exam. There is no chance he didn't crack 820. Relax, he will have no problems enrolling

 

[CTBasketball]

He needs an 820/1600 on the SAT. You automatically get 400 points just for showing up to the exam. There is no chance he didn't crack 820. Relax, he will have no problems enrolling

Yeah unless you’re Derrick Rose or Dwayne Wade (who was basically illiterate coming out of HS), you’d have to be dumb as rocks to not get an 820.

 

[pj]

Yeah unless you’re Derrick Rose or Dwayne Wade (who was basically illiterate coming out of HS), you’d have to be dumb as rocks to not get an 820.

It's not quite so easy as that. There is a sliding scale for SAT scores based on grades (http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2018DIEC_Requirements_Fact_Sheet_20180117.pdf). Depending on GPA, you may need anywhere from a 400 to an 1100 an SATs to be a full qualifier.

Moreover, Akok Akok had bad grades (according to PSA coach Tom Espinosa, Jeff Jacobs: Akok Akok, a big forward who could be a bigger get for UConn). So his SAT will need to be at the high end of that range.

We can be sure Akok was not a full qualifier as of December, because he did a post-grad year and continued taking the SAT.

 

[yukonfan4]

yes, i'm hopeful akok will be a partial qualifier so he can practice with the team next semester.

the question was- if that's the most likely scenario- why weren't the scholly issues/repercussions explained crystal clearly before now? and by the media in particular

 

[Phoenixhusky]

Was Akok on the bench last night?

 

[pj]

yes, i'm hopeful akok will be a partial qualifier so he can practice with the team next semester.

the question was- if that's the most likely scenario- why weren't the scholly issues/repercussions explained crystal clearly before now? and by the media in particular

Probably because the coaches didn't want the issues publicly discussed, and asked the media not to discuss.

Possibly that means Akok is currently a non-qualifier, and therefore can't have a scholarship, and therefore no one would need to leave, but if his SAT score improved enough in December to make him a partial qualifier, then someone would need to leave. They may be waiting for his score in order to find out, meanwhile holding out the player who would depart (presumably KW, the guy who wasn't on the bench last game) from practice and games so that if he has to leave, he won't have to be counted as a scholarship athlete for second semester.

In other words, KW may be off the team for the moment but back on it in a week or two if Akok's SAT score didn't improve enough. Akok may be unable to practice at the moment but may be able to practice in a week or two if he becomes a partial qualifier.

Since there are two alternative outcomes that are each embarrassing in a different way (KW having to leave the team, or Akok being a non-qualifier), and only one will come to pass, the coaches presumably want everything quiet until they find out which it is, so that only one guy gets embarrassed, not both.

 

[JMick]

Probably because the coaches didn't want the issues publicly discussed, and asked the media not to discuss.

Possibly that means Akok is currently a non-qualifier, and therefore can't have a scholarship, and therefore no one would need to leave, but if his SAT score improved enough in December to make him a partial qualifier, then someone would need to leave. They may be waiting for his score in order to find out, meanwhile holding out the player who would depart (presumably KW, the guy who wasn't on the bench last game) from practice and games so that if he has to leave, he won't have to be counted as a scholarship athlete for second semester.

In other words, KW may be off the team for the moment but back on it in a week or two if Akok's SAT score didn't improve enough. Akok may be unable to practice at the moment but may be able to practice in a week or two if he becomes a partial qualifier.

Since there are two alternative outcomes that are each embarrassing in a different way (KW having to leave the team, or Akok being a non-qualifier), and only one will come to pass, the coaches presumably want everything quiet until they find out which it is, so that only one guy gets embarrassed, not both.

Solid theory. I don't know if it's right but it sounds right.

 

[yukonfan4]

guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it....

 

[Husk04ies]

Was Akok on the bench last night?

I didn't see him

 

[yukonfan4]

if akok isn't on the bench saturday will it officially be time to start worrying about his status?