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Dybansta is a generational talent. Flagg could've commanded that this year, I kinda have more respect for how his recruiting went now. Ended up with the wrong school but seems to have done it in a more old school fashion in regards to making the choice. I also understand the way the Dybansta crew handled it, and I don't begrudge it. Their choice. If schools are willing to do this, I guess you have to look at it.

There are not many talents like Dybansta and Flagg, so no I dont think this type of money will be seen much, but to your point I think it did raise the floor on garden variety 5 stars values. Like maybe 1.5 million just went to 2.5.

This bubble will pop. But not yet. Gonna be a few years I think.
Well said. This seems accurate.
I actually like the fact that a fringe basketball school like BYU, that has money, could yank these guys away from our competitors and us for that matter.

If we don't land the stud, fine with me if he goes to a middle of the road program.

I've seen crappy concert promoters land a big act and the festival still suuuuuuucks
 
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Of course because the little guy was always getting the #1 recruits before this and BYU is clearly the big dog in college basketball. This is also Duke's first #1 recruiting class ever and it would be the first team they go deep with in the tournament if it happens.
You missed the point. It all moves up, not just the top recruit. All scales and expectations will change, trickle down.
 
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For the perceived little guys, this isn’t good. If the NIL floor is raising for talent, the teams with the funds will move forward.

I would love to know the dynamic of how it got to that level. What was the leverage, who was competing and for how much? And why? What is the perceived ROI? This is precedent setting stuff. If this Duke team goes deep this year, it will only reinforce the value and deepen the gap.
Our last 3 classes under Hurley: 2023- #3, 2024- #11, 2025- #3.

One guy changes nothing, But it's the combination of NIL and revenue sharing that is worrisome. the BE tv contract doesnt afford us any revenue to share, so while we've been competitive with Duke, KU, UK, etc. the extra few mill they will be able to "share" with their players on top of NIL will wipe out the "Hurley discount" we've been greatly benefiting from. this will become readily apparent for the class of 2026 if we're not in a power conference.
 
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Our last 3 classes under Hurley: 2023- #3, 2024- #11, 2025- #3.

One guy changes nothing, But it's the combination of NIL and revenue sharing that is worrisome. the BE tv contract doesnt afford us any revenue to share, so while we've been competitive with Duke, KU, UK, etc. the extra few mill they will be able to "share" with their players on top of NIL will wipe out the "Hurley discount" we've been greatly benefiting from. this will become readily apparent for the class of 2026 if we're not in a power conference.
Less worried about us, as have enough equity to carry forward and compete. More worried about the rest of the BE and then how that ultimately impacts us over the long haul if we don’t find a home in the new landscape.
 
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This guy really went to the basketball power BYU? can’t make this stuff up man - like ted dibiase used to say “anybody can be bought”- what a joke
 
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Dude is clearly a bum who is only looking for a paycheck

Ain't like the kid is degreeing in astronomical science engineering. Its all about basketball and if the NCAA wants to be greedy then I'm all for these kids getting their piece from their university who are monetizing his talents for tickets. Its a new day

Anyway if he gets hurt his freshman year, ruining his NBA prospects will he still be considered a bum?


 
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This guy really went to the basketball power BYU? can’t make this stuff up man - like ted dibiase used to say “anybody can be bought”- what a joke
I wonder if Virgil ever came close to 7 mill for one year...
 
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Ain't like the kid is degreeing in astronomical science engineering. Its all about basketball and if the NCAA wants to be greedy then I'm all for these kids getting their piece from their university who are monetizing his talents for tickets. Its a new day

Anyway if he gets hurt his freshman year, ruining his NBA prospects will he still be considered a bum?


it was a joke mi amigo. I have no idea who the kid is. I hope he does well and makes as much money as possible.
 
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Very intrigued by this experiment of dropping huge coin on one dude to try to single handedly (pretty much) build a basketball culture somewhere. It’s a very real possibility that they’re a middling team with one superstar next year. Does that still get the alums to open up checkbooks at a school that historically, doesn’t really care about basketball that much?

I don't think the goal is to even necessarily be competitive for championships. In fact, I'm pretty certain that's not the goal. All about eyeballs on the TV set, full gym, and getting a bunch of bandwagon fans.
 
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It's ultimately going to be bad for the sport. But can't really fault him for it.

Of course not and anyone here who does is beyond lame and holding onto a notion of college athletics that is long dead. Any authenticity or honor with CBB ended many, many years ago. Players have gone to the highest bidder for years. You have guys transferring four times in four years now. Coaches come and go. Rivalries are pretty much dead because there is no continuity.

Obviously I'm an enormous UConn fan. But if I had a son with crazy talent I'm encouraging him to go to the highest bidder. To me it would be stupid not to. AJ will be a top pick whether he went here, to BYU, or to Mitchell College (does that even still exist?)
 
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Of course not and anyone here who does is beyond lame and holding onto a notion of college athletics that is long dead. Any authenticity or honor with CBB ended many, many years ago. Players have gone to the highest bidder for years. You have guys transferring four times in four years now. Coaches come and go. Rivalries are pretty much dead because there is no continuity.

Obviously I'm an enormous UConn fan. But if I had a son with crazy talent I'm encouraging him to go to the highest bidder. To me it would be stupid not to. AJ will be a top pick whether he went here, to BYU, or to Mitchell College (does that even still exist?)
Maybe he'll be a top pick if he lasts that long. He'll get double/tripled teamed regularly at a place without help. And it will be physical too.
 
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Of course not and anyone here who does is beyond lame and holding onto a notion of college athletics that is long dead. Any authenticity or honor with CBB ended many, many years ago. Players have gone to the highest bidder for years. You have guys transferring four times in four years now. Coaches come and go. Rivalries are pretty much dead because there is no continuity.

Obviously I'm an enormous UConn fan. But if I had a son with crazy talent I'm encouraging him to go to the highest bidder. To me it would be stupid not to. AJ will be a top pick whether he went here, to BYU, or to Mitchell College (does that even still exist?)
My biggest question is what drove the price up to 7mm? If the four competitors were pitching 6mm each to push market, boy the NIL budgets are popping fast.



 
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I don't think AJ is a bad kid. His father is running his recruitment and is looking to retire on his son. That's the system today and he's taking advantage of it. His father is doing what he thinks is right and AJ is letting his father run things. It is what it is.
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Interesting article from Matt Norlander at CBS Sports. To piggyback on my post above about his father going to games after Dybantsa had already signed with BYU, Alabama and UNC are not too happy about that.

it's been so long since UNC had an elite, blue chip draft ready prospect that they had to reference a Duke player in their pitch to him, damn

North Carolina pitched him a vision of being the next all-time scoring superstar to wear Tar Heel Blue, following in the footsteps of Michael Jordan, Vince Carter and Jerry Stackhouse. They referenced how Zion Williamson's net worth skyrocketed by choosing to play at Duke instead of Clemson, laying out what one season at a blue blood did for his career in advance of being drafted by the New Orleans Pelicans, including a shoe deal worth upward of $50 million before ever playing an NBA game.
 
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There are not many talents like Dybansta and Flagg, so no I dont think this type of money will be seen much, but to your point I think it did raise the floor on garden variety 5 stars values. Like maybe 1.5 million just went to 2.5.

If history has taught us anything, it's that the value of athletes never stops going up. I suspect it will get out of control faster than you can say Jack Robinson. There are no restrains on NIL. And it follows that the amount of money spent on players will explode.
 

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