Oldude, I tried and failed to send you a PM to thank you for this and your other Boneyard threads, which my 93-year-old father unfailingly enjoys. (Nothing against the rest of you; I read vast portions of the board to him daily, and he marvels at the depth of the analysis.) I see you live in Moreau. I'm ten miles down the road and think your state park is a gem. Thanks again!