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Dang it! I'm going to miss this one due to a business conference...... :(

I don't really recall any issues between State and Chapel Hill on the court.. at least not in recent memory. Sadly, the hatred is pretty much reserved for the fans, not the players.
 
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Louisville at NC State tonight is a big game! The two top programs of the decade (thus far) in the ACC.
Of the decade? NC State maybe. ACC tournament winners none of which were Louisville:

2020 NC State. Louisville lost in semis
2021 NC State. Louisville lost in finals
2022 NC State. Louisville lost in quarter finals
2023 Virginia Tech Louisville lost in finals, NC State lost in quarter finals.

But I guess it depends on your perception and I do have a bias against Louisville so my view may be tainted.
 

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Of the decade? NC State maybe. ACC tournament winners none of which were Louisville:

2020 NC State. Louisville lost in semis
2021 NC State. Louisville lost in finals
2022 NC State. Louisville lost in quarter finals
2023 Virginia Tech Louisville lost in finals, NC State lost in quarter finals.

But I guess it depends on your perception and I do have a bias against Louisville so my view may be tainted.
Is ACC tourney the only criteria? What about conference regular season and NCAA Tourney performance?
 
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How I see the ACC finish the regular season:

1) Louisville
2) NC State
3) V. Tech
4) N. Dame
5) N. Carolina
6) Miami
7) Syracuse
8) Fla. State
9) Duke
10) G. Tech
11) Clemson
12) B. C.
13) Virginia
14) Pitt.
15) W. F.

The top 9 will all go to the NCAA tournament although one of them may have to get there as a play-in team.

There is a very small margin between teams #5 through #9 and they could even have identical conference records when all is said and done. Head-to-head match ups will make the difference.
 
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How I see the ACC finish the regular season:

1) Louisville
2) NC State
3) V. Tech
4) N. Dame
5) N. Carolina
6) Miami
7) Syracuse
8) Fla. State
9) Duke
10) G. Tech
11) Clemson
12) B. C.
13) Virginia
14) Pitt.
15) W. F.

The top 9 will all go to the NCAA tournament although one of them may have to get there as a play-in team.

There is a very small margin between teams #5 through #9 and they could even have identical conference records when all is said and done. Head-to-head match ups will make the difference.
I guess if you're a Louisville fan and ignore their 77-67 loss to NC State putting Louisville in third place now. And don't believe the common opponent logic (Louisville lost to Uconn by 24, Uconn lost to ND by 15) you could find a way for enough upsets to get to this list. If you're making any bets I will take them.

Imo Louisville will lose twice to ND and once to VT for at least 5 losses and won't win the ACC. The first big test is Thursday..
 
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Va Tech (9-2) : @NCSU @Lou @ND @UVa vsBC vs Duke vs UNC

NCSU (8-2) : @Pitt @ND @UNC @Duke home vs VT, GT, Cuse and WF

Lou (8-2) : @Cuse, @BC, @ND, @GT home vs ND, VT, UVa and FSU

Cuse (8-3): @ MIA, @UVa, @ NCSU home vs GT, Lou, Duke and Pitt

ND (7-3) : @Lou, @FSU, @Duke, @BC home vs NCSU, Clem, Lou and VT

FSU (7-4) : @Pitt, @WF, @MIA, @Lou home vs ND, BC, Clem

UNC (7-4) : @Duke, @WF, @VT, @BC home vs Pitt, NCSU, Duke

Don’t sleep on FSU or Syracuse. They both have the easiest remaining schedules of the top teams in the conference. Lots of ball left to play and everyone is within a game or 2 of each other in the standings - really impossible to predict right now.
 
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I guess if you're a Louisville fan and ignore their 77-67 loss to NC State putting Louisville in third place now. And don't believe the common opponent logic (Louisville lost to Uconn by 24, Uconn lost to ND by 15) you could find a way for enough upsets to get to this list. If you're making any bets I will take them.

Imo Louisville will lose twice to ND and once to VT for at least 5 losses and won't win the ACC. The first big test is Thursday..
Actually I'm not a fan of Louisville at all. I see them losing at ND but winning throughout otherwise which would leave them one game ahead of other top teams in the standings. If they are tied with anyone they would likely not finish first.
 
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Va Tech (9-2) : @NCSU @Lou @ND @UVa vsBC vs Duke vs UNC

NCSU (8-2) : @Pitt @ND @UNC @Duke home vs VT, GT, Cuse and WF

Lou (8-2) : @Cuse, @BC, @ND, @GT home vs ND, VT, UVa and FSU

Cuse (8-3): @ MIA, @UVa, @ NCSU home vs GT, Lou, Duke and Pitt

ND (7-3) : @Lou, @FSU, @Duke, @BC home vs NCSU, Clem, Lou and VT

FSU (7-4) : @Pitt, @WF, @MIA, @Lou home vs ND, BC, Clem

UNC (7-4) : @Duke, @WF, @VT, @BC home vs Pitt, NCSU, Duke

Don’t sleep on FSU or Syracuse. They both have the easiest remaining schedules of the top teams in the conference. Lots of ball left to play and everyone is within a game or 2 of each other in the standings - really impossible to predict right now.
I see FSU losing a minimum of 3 of those remaining games. I also see Syracuse doing the same.
 

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2026 is TBD Charlotte will hold its first ever ACC Women's tournament in 2027 :(

 

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I found out while searching for tickets. for the 2024 tourney that there are changes. Some good, some bad.. For the good. Instead of having separate sessions on Thursday and Friday at 11am and 2pm, there will be just one session with games at 11am and 1:30pm. Previously everyone had to exit the arena after the first game, and if you were going to go to the second game you could either mill around in the plaza areas for 45 minutes or go back and sit in your car until they opened the arena doors back up.

For the bad. Since at least since 2006, the price for a entire tournament book was $99 dollars. It has been increased to $149.

For the good and bad. Instead of the evening sessions being played at 6pm and 8pm they are now gonna be at 5pm and 7:30pm. Previously the scheduled 8pm game NEVER started at 8... usually around 8:20 or so. Good that games will be done around 9:30 instead of 10:15-10:30. Bad in that there is about 30 minutes less turnaround time between the end of the 1:30 game and the start of the 5pm game. There were times where i would stay til the end of the early game.. drive home... charge my phone a bit, eat a sandwich, and close the blinds of my house and then rush back to the game for the warmups of the 6pm game. 30 minutes less time for that. :oops:
 
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I found out while searching for tickets. for the 2024 tourney that there are changes. Some good, some bad.. For the good. Instead of having separate sessions on Thursday and Friday at 11am and 2pm, there will be just one session with games at 11am and 1:30pm. Previously everyone had to exit the arena after the first game, and if you were going to go to the second game you could either mill around in the plaza areas for 45 minutes or go back and sit in your car until they opened the arena doors back up.

For the bad. Since at least since 2006, the price for a entire tournament book was $99 dollars. It has been increased to $149.

For the good and bad. Instead of the evening sessions being played at 6pm and 8pm they are now gonna be at 5pm and 7:30pm. Previously the scheduled 8pm game NEVER started at 8... usually around 8:20 or so. Good that games will be done around 9:30 instead of 10:15-10:30. Bad in that there is about 30 minutes less turnaround time between the end of the 1:30 game and the start of the 5pm game. There were times where i would stay til the end of the early game.. drive home... charge my phone a bit, eat a sandwich, and close the blinds of my house and then rush back to the game for the warmups of the 6pm game. 30 minutes less time for that. :oops:
Are there warm up courts the teams can use? Running and stretching in the hallways in Greensboro always worried me from an injury and preparation standpoint.

I agree the forced fan change out was not great but that might limit prep time unless it's the not ideal running the halls again.
 
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2026 is TBD Charlotte will hold its first ever ACC Women's tournament in 2027 :(


What sites are they considering for 2026? I don’t care what Jim Boeheim says, the ACCT should always be in Greensboro!
 

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What sites are they considering for 2026? I don’t care what Jim Boeheim says, the ACCT should always be in Greensboro!
Agreed. Sadly, those days have sailed, I'm afraid...although, maybe, just maybe, Greensboro remains a semi-permanent host for WCBB. But everyone should have seen this coming as the conference expanded, the yankees moved in and there were other, larger, more attractive cities to showcase in the bloated conference umbrella besides Greensboro. The conference moving headquarters to Charlotte was a last, final ignominious act that the ACC us old southerners grew up watching is no more.
 

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With 1st place in the ACC standings on the line, NC State did not play with the energy and desire one would expect from a champion. A very disappointing, piss-poor effort more reminiscent of our men's team. A lot of one-on-one ball...missed bunnies...3 assists on 20 made baskets, but the real killer tonight was allowing Virginia Tech 15 offensive rebounds, and I don't know exactly how many, but Tech must have had at least 5 THREEs as the result of them; Tech nailed 11 on the night.

I expected Aziaha James to be key to this matchup and her hot hand kept us close in the first half. Then, she disappeared...only attempting 3 shots in the entire second half. State did not shoot well tonight...but I think that's a credit to VT's D and our uncharacteristic penchant for one-on-one, contested jump shots. The beautiful teamwork and ball movement this team has been known for most of this season was not on display at all tonight.
 

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Are there warm up courts the teams can use? Running and stretching in the hallways in Greensboro always worried me from an injury and preparation standpoint.

I agree the forced fan change out was not great but that might limit prep time unless it's the not ideal running the halls again.

There is the Fieldhouse next door to the Coliseum where the G-League team plays... I know several teams do their practice sessions there. The Special Events Center is adjacent to the arena where they have held high school tournaments, so yes there are courts available. I think the new scheduling will help that you will know exactly what time the next game will start and when to start preps.


What sites are they considering for 2026? I don’t care what Jim Boeheim says, the ACCT should always be in Greensboro!

Its going to be either Greensboro or Charlotte.
 

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Can someone explain to this born and raised West Coaster the deep significance of holding the tournament what google maps indicates is a 1 hour and 25 minute drive away? Am I not appreciating something about the cultural divide between Greensboro and Charlotte? Since a Stanford fan like me might very well want to attend a future ACC Championship tournament, it seems like a no-brainer to host it in a city with a major airport, right?
When the ACC was formed in 1953, Greensboro was selected as the headquarters because it was almost in the geographic center of the relatively-intimate conference footprint; the range of states was South Carolina to Maryland. Greensboro is not the most beautiful of cities but is a decent-sized city...and was proud to host the headquarters of the conference, a distinction it would hold until last year. TPTB thought a move south to the bustling Charlotte area would afford the conference many amenities that Greensboro could not provide and that would require travel to Charlotte, anyway. Moving the headquarters to a major city like Charlotte would also signal the conference as modern and booming (even as fortunes on the men's side of the basketball ledger wane big time).

Now, the ACC WCBB championship, which Greensboro has hosted, and the city has embraced for, is it 20 years?, is now going south to Charlotte, with everything else. I don't know how I feel about that. On one hand, with so many new teams, rotating the host cities would allow all fan bases to have a tournament closer to their geographic region to ease travel every few years and create a fairer playing field. On the other hand, Greensboro is a neutral site, and has done a wonderful job with the tournament...a high bar that other cities could only hope to meet going forward.
 

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