Interestingly, last year, ND won the reg season, and Va Tech won the ACCT, this year the roles were reversed.
@Triad, sending get well wishes to you. Stay well, stay safe!Other than the 2021 tournament (surgery) this was the first tournament I've missed in Greensboro since 2009.... and this year they have the highest attendance since . 2009. Apparently the word got out that I wouldn't be there
That Fortune list was about 10 years ago. What's listed on her profile is no different than a player listing the fact they were a 5-star recruit or a top ranked player as part of their profile. It's simply an accolade that "looks good" to build out her resume for the fanbase.
I agree. Im disappointed a little in their progression the past two seasons but they are a good program. They've been competitive the last three seasons. I respect a sweet 16 appearance. and if they were to win one more game that's 3 20 win seasons. Also it takes coaches awhile sometimes to develop into like a powerhouse. I think Dawn Staley's first five years at SC r eerily similar. Sweet 16 appearance, second round, wnit appearance. Not saying she's the next Dawn but it takes time.
I never said anything about her getting fired. I even said her position was secure for the forseeable future. I believe she is a "good" coach but not a "great" coach. If your program has aspirations of winning a national championship - or at least being in the conversation in the future - then I don't think she's going to get them there. She has done less with more than other coaches who have done the opposite.
I wasn't finding fault with it being in her NC bio (although that was prior to her joining NC) but rather Fortune for listing her. Do you honestly believe that at any point in her career she was one of the WORLD'S 50 greatest leaders?
At the same time, these types of "lists" are usually curated by an organization who has some type of marketing alignment with these publishers. Look at the all-star awards and their sponsors. They all need to be taken with a grain of salt.
I agree with you in that it does take time to build a powerhouse program. But you have to see signs of it and I haven't. It's been a downward trend over the last three years - and with better talent. Not to mention adding good players from the portal. I have no bone to pick with Banghart at all just objectively I don't see the attraction to joining that program. As for a 20-win season that has become over-rated as playing many "puff" teams on your non-conference schedule (a la Mulkey and many others) has become the norm for many schools.
Sorry I forgot an organization's "propensity" to do that!
Completely fair. I love hearing ppls opinions. That's y I spend way too much time on this board jk. I've been thinking about recently, how important it is to have a great player. Im thinking of Arizona and Adia Barnes. Ari McDonald changed her life. I think she's a good coach and did a great job this season in some ways but does it take a wnba level talent to really go far in the tournament? Does it take consistently getting that level talent to become one of those programs? Mike Neighbors with Kelsey Plum is another example though I did like the Arkansas teams with Chelsea Dungee. I'm just not sure what Utsby and Kelly are? Like r they top 10 players in their conference, top 30 players in the country? If not then is it fair to have top 16 team level expectations on Banghart. And furthermore are there a lot of examples of elite coaches/power 5 programs that are perennially top 15 that don't have a future w player or prospect on their roster. Now the flip side is y haven't Kelly and utsby developed into that.
